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    us
    Aug 2013
    OC, CA
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    Almost wrapped my Equinox 800 around a palm tree!

    I was detecting the wet and dry sand yesterday and kept getting false signals everywhere. Even on the dry sand it was abnormally chatty. I thought it may be due to the last update so I kept making adjustments to the Iron Bios but to no avail.

    I took off the coil cover to see if there was any debris between the coil and cover and It had a bit of sand but not much.
    After knocking the sand off and reinstalling the cover, it still wanted to false and chat.

    So I did a noise cancel, with no improvement.
    I thought WTH!
    So driving home I felt a bit disappointed with the Nox and thought I'd test it when I get home and I'm sure glad I did.
    I discovered It was due to my cell phone in my side cargo short's pocket causing all the trouble.

    Low volume while in the Pinpoint Mode is another question.
    Comments are appreciated. Thanks!
    Rusty


    We are not what we take, we are what we leave.

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    us
    Sep 2012
    Beaumont, TX
    Garrett AT Pro Minelab Equinox 800 Fisher CZ-21 White Classic 3 SL
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    I found my phone caused problems with my Nox too. I first blamed it on EMI but finally figured it out. Now it stays in the truck while at the beach.
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    Rook

    Nov 2013
    Mississippi
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    Glad it wasn't your machine.
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  4. #4
    Yeah, buying another machine gets expensive. The Minelabs I have gone up against head to head have always had a problem w emi. Power lines, transformers, dog fences, all that stuff for some reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rook3434 View Post
    Glad it wasn't your machine.
    Thanks Rook! Me 2!


    We are not what we take, we are what we leave.

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    Jan 2010
    Coloma, Michigan
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    I have had the low volume in the pinpoint mode. The cause, at least what I figured out was that I turned on the pinpoint when I was to close to the target so it kinda nulled it out. So turn off the pinpoint move away from target then turn it back on again and you should be fine. At least that is what I have had to do. I think it kinda ground balances on the target (my opinion)

    Doug
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    Title? old fart

    Jun 2014
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donut View Post
    I have had the low volume in the pinpoint mode. The cause, at least what I figured out was that I turned on the pinpoint when I was to close to the target so it kinda nulled it out. So turn off the pinpoint move away from target then turn it back on again and you should be fine. At least that is what I have had to do. I think it kinda ground balances on the target (my opinion)

    Doug
    I had the low volume on pin pointing pretty regular. I too would get the coil a lot farther away and try it again, usually worked
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    us
    Jan 2010
    Coloma, Michigan
    Xterra 70 6" 7.5khz concentric 9" 7.5Khz concentric, 5x10 18.75Khz DD, 10.5 18.75Khz DD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtlooter View Post
    I had the low volume on pin pointing pretty regular. I too would get the coil a lot farther away and try it again, usually worked
    i think he was talking about when pinpoint sometimes the pinpoint volume was low when he was trying to pinpoint an object. Sometimes my volume is low when I turn it on and o have to turn it off then move away from target and turn it back on then it’s ok. Also if you turn it on close to another target it will do it also.
    Doug
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    Steveís Carbon fiber shaft with counter weight.
    Xterra 70

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    Feb 2019
    Phillipsburg, Warren County, New Jersey
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    Quote Originally Posted by smokeythecat View Post
    Yeah, buying another machine gets expensive. The Minelabs I have gone up against head to head have always had a problem w emi. Power lines, transformers, dog fences, all that stuff for some reason.
    I get the exact same problem on my Makro Multi Kruzer. Haven't hit is as bad on the Nox 800 yet.
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    Aug 2013
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donut View Post
    Also if you turn it on close to another target it will do it also.
    Doug
    This is what I think was happening. It was intermittent, twice actually. When I turned on Pinpoint Mode the coil was away from the target but volume was low. Turned off Pinpoint Mode, tried again and it worked. Thanks everyone for your comments!


    We are not what we take, we are what we leave.

  11. #11
    I never used the Nox I had near a power line. My Tesoros had no problems, can't remember what the old White's did anymore. I think only those huge overhead transmission lines affected it.
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    us
    Jan 2010
    Coloma, Michigan
    Xterra 70 6" 7.5khz concentric 9" 7.5Khz concentric, 5x10 18.75Khz DD, 10.5 18.75Khz DD.
    74
    51 times
    Ok EMI. If you have a car and put a bigger engine it you have more power.
    EMI could there be a chance the NOX is more sensitive.
    Try this lower the sensitivity down maybe below 10. If you are still having problems go to a single frequency. I’d try 10khz. The Nox is probably more sensitive and that is probably why people are finding more stuff in hunted out sites.
    these are just my thoughts.

    Doug
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    Joseph Mi, 12 miles

    Equinox 800 11, 6 coil
    Steveís Carbon fiber shaft with counter weight.
    Xterra 70

  13. #13
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    Colonel

    Jan 2014
    Central Florida
    CTX 3030; EQX 800; Excal II
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    Beach and Shallow Water Hunting
    Rusty, I saw where you read my post on Prelimnary Testing of the 2.0 Update. In fact, you gave me a "like" on it.

    Preliminary Wet Salt Sand Test: Update 2.0.1 Iron Bias F2

    My Last comment of that post was:

    3. One important reminder. Leave your phone in the car. I forgot to leave it in the house on my first run and my wireless Quest headphones soon reminded me of my forgetfulness with all the chatter!

    Not to worry, I too forgot to leave my phone in the house on my first run of that test as I stated in the OP. We all do it my friend!
    Last edited by ColonelDan; Oct 10, 2019 at 05:38 AM.
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    Hawks88

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    Weird, Iíve had my 600 for over a year and never had that problem. I wear a Minelab vest and put my cell phone in the top left side chest pocket and swing the nox on my right side. Sens at 18-23 and itís been no problem. Iíve been using the 6Ē coil. Maybe it would be different if I go back to the stock coil. I just downloaded latest firmware though and havenít tried it yet so maybe things will change.
    Last edited by Hawks88; Oct 10, 2019 at 06:52 AM.

  15. #15
    us
    Sep 2012
    Beaumont, TX
    Garrett AT Pro Minelab Equinox 800 Fisher CZ-21 White Classic 3 SL
    171
    173 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Quote Originally Posted by Hawks88 View Post
    Weird, Iíve had my 600 for over a year and never had that problem. I wear a Minelab vest and put my cell phone in the top left side chest pocket and swing the nox on my right side. Sens at 18-23 and itís been no problem. Iíve been using the 6Ē coil. Maybe it would be different if I go back to the stock coil. I just downloaded latest firmware though and havenít tried it yet so maybe things will change.
    I had the problem with my phone on my right hip and swinging on the right. Maybe your phone is far enough away and your body is between the two. Maybe that is the answer.
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