5th and 6th time out with the Knox

MackDog

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the 5th time out with the Knox was a bust nothing old or unique but the machine worked well. Being honest it happens. The next day went out to another hunted park took the 15" coil and went to an iron infested patch. Just trying to work out how the Knox reacts. First target was a 1917 S Merc 8" down in with a nail, only got a signal from 3 directions. Second good target was a 1903 IHP 9" plus also buried with a nail. Managed to pull a 1912 V and 1917 D wheat from the same area. I dug a lot of deep square nails and some bottle caps. So now I've got to work on the Iron F2 settings. Think I'll start at 4 since it's recommended by a lot of people. Let me know what you think, use or have tried
 

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Sounds like you are working out the Nox pretty fast. Nice results!
 

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Ok, I am thinking I am missing some targets.

I have been in the habit of waiting for a target to be within 1 or 2 number on the TID swinging from all points on the compass. So is swinging on a target and it gives at least a solid 1-2 range say like on 31-32 in only one direction it means that there is silver down there somewhere. Been hunting at a major river crossing with 2 old stores and one old house from the late 1890's to 1900 in a very small area.

Maybe my threshold for digging is too strict. What type of iffy signals would one dig in a proven historic area such as this. I have already found one civil war relic in this area a cast piece of lead use by the soldiers as a pencil.

Need some help here. using the nox 800.
 

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Sounds good.
 

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MackDog

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Ok, I am thinking I am missing some targets.

I have been in the habit of waiting for a target to be within 1 or 2 number on the TID swinging from all points on the compass. So is swinging on a target and it gives at least a solid 1-2 range say like on 31-32 in only one direction it means that there is silver down there somewhere. Been hunting at a major river crossing with 2 old stores and one old house from the late 1890's to 1900 in a very small area.

Maybe my threshold for digging is too strict. What type of iffy signals would one dig in a proven historic area such as this. I have already found one civil war relic in this area a cast piece of lead use by the soldiers as a pencil.

Need some help here. using the nox 800.

Right now I dig all signals from 9-40 minus 15-16. The more trash you dig the more treasure you'll find
 

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Right now I dig all signals from 9-40 minus 15-16. The more trash you dig the more treasure you'll find

And it is all in context, too. Those 15-16 signals that you don't dig are just as likely civil war uniform buttons, knapsack parts, bayonet scabbard tips, or fired minie balls as they are pull tabs, can slaw, or bent and burned square nails at many of the sites I dig. Unlikely, though at the local soccer field or park (though those numbers could be a chunky white gold ring, too, so you just never really know unless you have the time, patience and discipline to truly dig it all.)

Very few folks, myself included, actually do dig it all even when they say they are doing it. If you are digging it all, you really need to dig it all because ground conditions, depth, target orientation, target condition (bent or corroded targets) and the presence of other nearby targets in the same hole all can distort and alter target visual and audio ID (the audio ID nuances give you more info about the target and highlight these possible factors). Know your site and who frequents it and who did go there in the past. After digging 15 pull tabs in a row, who really wants to dig another 12 or 14 signal just on the outside chance it is a toasty V nickel or gold ring knowing only 10 year olds go there to kick the ball around (no parents) and the field was recently covered in fill dirt. Detecting is as much about detective work, understanding people's habiits, history research, and playing hunches.
 

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You just never know unless you dig it.
 

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I have to agree completely , there is a certain amount of logic that must be used in treasure hunting as with any other endeavor . The process of elimination must come in to play on many possibilities , and while digging every single signal you hear may sound like the only right thing to do there stlii must be some logic used in your decision to dig .
Good luck all ...

That being said ,
Some of those non logical signals I've dug in very very ols sites have turned out to be quite rewarding .
 

Iron Buzz

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Absolutely true, but at some point it becomes a matter of time vs productivity. No matter how much free time you may have, it is still limited. It takes time to dig those probable pull tabs that might be rings or bullets. Its all a matter of trade-offs and gambling.
 

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MackDog

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And it is all in context, too. Those 15-16 signals that you don't dig are just as likely civil war uniform buttons, knapsack parts, bayonet scabbard tips, or fired minie balls as they are pull tabs, can slaw, or bent and burned square nails at many of the sites I dig. Unlikely, though at the local soccer field or park (though those numbers could be a chunky white gold ring, too, so you just never really know unless you have the time, patience and discipline to truly dig it all.)

Very few folks, myself included, actually do dig it all even when they say they are doing it. If you are digging it all, you really need to dig it all because ground conditions, depth, target orientation, target condition (bent or corroded targets) and the presence of other nearby targets in the same hole all can distort and alter target visual and audio ID (the audio ID nuances give you more info about the target and highlight these possible factors). Know your site and who frequents it and who did go there in the past. After digging 15 pull tabs in a row, who really wants to dig another 12 or 14 signal just on the outside chance it is a toasty V nickel or gold ring knowing only 10 year olds go there to kick the ball around (no parents) and the field was recently covered in fill dirt. Detecting is as much about detective work, understanding people's habiits, history research, and playing hunches.
So I I mainly detect parks that are flooded with pull tabs. The majority of them come up 15-16 so I have notched them out. I still dig a few but not as many. As far as 13-14 I dig them because we do find a lot of V, shield and Buffalo nickels in the areas we hunt. Old nickels have been hard to find and less hunted in the past so they seem to be plentiful
 

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MackDog

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Absolutely true, but at some point it becomes a matter of time vs productivity. No matter how much free time you may have, it is still limited. It takes time to dig those probable pull tabs that might be rings or bullets. Its all a matter of trade-offs and gambling.
The more times we hit a site the fewer targets we get. But we get deeper and better targets by digging all the trash out of it.
 

Iron Buzz

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The more times we hit a site the fewer targets we get. But we get deeper and better targets by digging all the trash out of it.

*IF* there actually are deeper targets in that spot. That's part of the gamble. There may be, or there may not be.
 

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MackDog

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*IF* there actually are deeper targets in that spot. That's part of the gamble. There may be, or there may not be.

Theres a part we go to that coins are more than pin pointer deep. I was an old swimming area or mud beach. We've found coins at almost 12". The only way you can find out if there's deeper targets is to detected the area. The Knox has opened up previously hunted areas to deeper targets. Rarely do we find shallow coins we missed
 

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