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    Horse shoe or No Horse shoe

    This question is for more experienced Equinox users. Do you use the horse shoe button to hear the iron or only sparingly to decide on iffy signals?

    I have been running with horse shoe on all the time (but the iron segment volume is turned down), mostly hunting around old cellar holes. If I turn it off, it doesn’t feel right. Recently have been going out with some other Nox users that only use it sparingly.

    I also read an excerpt from Clive’s book and it seemed to imply more depth not using horse shoe.

    What are y’all doing with this feature?
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    I never use it.

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    I leave it on and just turn the iron volume down. If you are cherry picking a clean park or field,then it doesn't matter that much. If you are hunting an iron infested site and trying to squeeze the last few targets out, then you might miss a partially masked target. Some of those iffy signals can be easier to pass over because of how the digital audio gets clipped. You can also miss good targets much the same way by notching. Co-mingled target tones can be pulled down lower depending on what the lower conductive target is.
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    Although I agree with 67GTO and cudamark, I'm a bit older and I can't listen to that many sounds for that long, so I've been using the horseshoe mostly to check targets. Many times I'll turn it on away from the cellar hole just in case there is a cabin site or other building, but even then I've found you can still hear the iron as the Nox sputters over nails even without the horseshoe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlives View Post
    Although I agree with 67GTO and cudamark, I'm a bit older and I can't listen to that many sounds for that long, so I've been using the horseshoe mostly to check targets. Many times I'll turn it on away from the cellar hole just in case there is a cabin site or other building, but even then I've found you can still hear the iron as the Nox sputters over nails even without the horseshoe.
    Have you tried playing with the iron volume? You can turn it down to a really low level in the background. If I leave it on the default level, I get ear fatigue after 2-3 hours in heavy iron.
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    That's interesting, the idea that having it off increases depth -- I have found just the opposite. I typically leave it on for depth, and because I like to hear a more complete picture of what's under the ground. I turn it off occasionally in especially trashy areas when I am feeling overwhelmed by the constant audio.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 67GTA View Post
    I leave it on and just turn the iron volume down. If you are cherry picking a clean park or field,then it doesn't matter that much. If you are hunting an iron infested site and trying to squeeze the last few targets out, then you might miss a partially masked target. Some of those iffy signals can be easier to pass over because of how the digital audio gets clipped. You can also miss good targets much the same way by notching. Co-mingled target tones can be pulled down lower depending on what the lower conductive target is.
    Couldn't have said it better. Iffy signals that may have a ferrous component due to masking or depth down averaging get clipped with discrimination. If the ferrous tone is driving you nuts 1) make sure you are ground balanced because the ground noise will overwhelm and 2) lower the bin 1 tone volume.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 67GTA View Post
    I leave it on and just turn the iron volume down. If you are cherry picking a clean park or field,then it doesn't matter that much. If you are hunting an iron infested site and trying to squeeze the last few targets out, then you might miss a partially masked target. Some of those iffy signals can be easier to pass over because of how the digital audio gets clipped. You can also miss good targets much the same way by notching. Co-mingled target tones can be pulled down lower depending on what the lower conductive target is.
    Ditto leave it on all the time. It helps me pick out more masked targets. Definitely has made a difference in finds in hunted out areas
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    I run with it on all the time. I like to hear everything in the ground....to me, thats what a detector is for. I think with it on it seems to pull the good targets out of the iron....just gotta learn to hear them!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pa-dirt_nc-sand View Post
    This question is for more experienced Equinox users. Do you use the horse shoe button to hear the iron or only sparingly to decide on iffy signals?

    I have been running with horse shoe on all the time (but the iron segment volume is turned down), mostly hunting around old cellar holes. If I turn it off, it doesn’t feel right. Recently have been going out with some other Nox users that only use it sparingly.

    I also read an excerpt from Clive’s book and it seemed to imply more depth not using horse shoe.

    What are y’all doing with this feature?
    Well you never told us WHERE you are hunting? I would NEVER uses "horseshoe mode" at a salt water beach with direct water contact.
    HOWEVER: I go to horseshoe mode to decide on all targets to dig.

    For me the horseshoe mode is the TRUTH MODE! I used the truth mode many times today!

    There most definitely is a purpose for that mode! In my case there are too many targets to run it all the time, and in salt water contact it is too unstable!
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    Quote Originally Posted by midalake View Post
    Well you never told us WHERE you are hunting? I would NEVER uses "horseshoe mode" at a salt water beach with direct water contact.
    HOWEVER: I go to horseshoe mode to decide on all targets to dig.

    For me the horseshoe mode is the TRUTH MODE! I used the truth mode many times today!


    There most definitely is a purpose for that mode! In my case there are too many targets to run it all the time, and in salt water contact it is too unstable!
    That's one area where I make SURE it's on. I just wish I could figure a way to make it the default on my machine. Sometimes I forget to punch the button when I first start out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 67GTA View Post
    I leave it on and just turn the iron volume down. If you are cherry picking a clean park or field,then it doesn't matter that much. If you are hunting an iron infested site and trying to squeeze the last few targets out, then you might miss a partially masked target. Some of those iffy signals can be easier to pass over because of how the digital audio gets clipped. You can also miss good targets much the same way by notching. Co-mingled target tones can be pulled down lower depending on what the lower conductive target is.
    This is what I do most of the time too, turn down the iron volume in the first bin. Depending on the site though, I do sometimes turn it off and use the horseshoe for verification. Some of the spots I hunt are just too trashy with iron bits (ghost towns) and even with the iron volume down it's gets annoying after a while.

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    Best to leave it on all the time IMO... That way you learn what a masked target sounds like and if your a relic hunter it is a must ...or it is for the way we hunt. If you use the horseshoe to check targets you might be messing up if you hunting in iron... Now that is coming from a pure relic hunter point of view.

    Well even if you are coin hunting it would at least alert you to slow down as there is a ton of iron under feet....

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    I leave it on. I have a 600 so I cant adjust the volume. I've become accustomed to the noise and just consider it part of the detectors language. If I dont hear iron, im constantly swinging over my boot to make sure my detectors working. Always throws my concentration off when things are too quiet.

 

 
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