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  1. #31
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    Re: Am I imagining this ???

    Funny you should mention that.

    Because of Charter Members and Sponsors - people who are NOT charter members can read and post on Tnet.

    Want to think about that statement again?

    B
    "Irony is the rule"

  2. #32
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    Re: Am I imagining this ???

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDane
    THIS FORUM IS DELIBERATELY DISCRIMINATING ITS MEMBERS !!!

    Now only Charter Members have access ?!?!??!

    Just another way to get the "right" opinions only, I guess ??

    I´ve had enough and have asked Jeff to delete my account !!

    Thank you all for many good and interesting discussions through the years !!

    TheDane

    Haaa!!you wanna say you gotta pay, this is a republic not a democracy, see ya around when you put your money where your mouth is. Funny
    Leave no stone unturned.

  3. #33
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    Re: Am I imagining this ???

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDane
    THIS FORUM IS DELIBERATELY DISCRIMINATING ITS MEMBERS !!!

    Now only Charter Members have access ?!?!??!

    Just another way to get the "right" opinions only, I guess ??

    I´ve had enough and have asked Jeff to delete my account !!

    Thank you all for many good and interesting discussions through the years !!

    TheDane

    But your still here Funny
    Leave no stone unturned.

  4. #34
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    Re: Am I imagining this ???

    TheDane,

    I can personally guarantee you that not all Charter Members agree in the political arena!!!


    B
    "Irony is the rule"

  5. #35
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    Re: Am I imagining this ???

    The anger comes from one already living in a socialist country. It's their, 'why
    should others have something that they paid for & the others who pay nothing
    not be able to have it too, mentality. Stop whining & break out the lousy 20 bucks
    already or beat it. With Barry Hussein going in, we'll be seeing a lot more of this
    po me, po po me BS. It should be simple you don't pay, don't work or don't
    contribute - you should do without.
    The Truth is Always Politically Incorrect

  6. #36
    Kentucky Kache

    Re: Am I imagining this ???

    Some of you guys make me glad I'm NOT a charter member.

  7. #37
    Rennwaggen

    Re: Am I imagining this ???

    You know, the holidays are coming . . .

    Maybe we could all pitch in and get him one of these:

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    They say if you have one of those, you can stand for principle and not cowtow to those who would want to bully you into submission for money. In fact, I think you can get arrested if John Law finds you doing that on a street corner in the redlight district.

    My buddy said that a big pair of gonads helps too, but I don't want to post that picture here

    (EDIT - Oooops! Hit the post instead of preview. Now I'll finish.)

    Of course, then there is the number of members here to consider. If everyone contributed just a buck (I personally know how much hosting costs and it can be done very well rather cheaply - it's the time spent moderating that really costs), then the mods could give up their paper routes and sleep in . . . which might make them a little less stressed when they do their jobs. They might even be able to hire a couple of helpers so they could take some time off occasionally.

    Take a look at this map of members: http://forum.treasurenet.com/snapshot

    . . . quite a bunch of pins on that map! $20 from each one is expecting maybe too much. Some of these folks don't want to send anything that would help identify who they really are . . . and looking at some of the things said, as well as the current (and more frighteningly, the coming) administration . . . I really wouldn't either, and won't.

    Freedom of speech or something like that. I think it was in some document I read, but on the other hand this is a private forum and not paid for with federal funds. It isn't, is it?

    And, wherever you have Freedom of Speech, sometimes that is best exercised by saying nothing. Bye. Got some Japanese carvings to decipher here in *************.

    You don't think I'd do this without some measure of privacy, do you?

  8. #38

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    Re: Am I imagining this ???

    I hate to say this- but I agree with the Dane

    Before I hear all the chorus of "You have to pay to play" from loyal TN members or "Why are you so cheap" I have a few words.
    I am not a charter member but believe me I contributed more to the server fund that most charter members have ever contributed here period. I did it because TN at the time promoted FREE SPEECH with the Politics/rants threads. What portion of the words "FREE SPEECH" do some members here not understand? I felt betrayed with the recent actions of TN regarding "FREE SPEECH".

    George


  9. #39

    Dec 2007
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    Re: Am I imagining this ???

    Oh, My!

    Land of the free, home of he brave?
    Freedom of speech is for someone who owns a newspaper!

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    I am a pathological liar and a functional illiterate.

  10. #40
    us
    May 2005
    Northern California
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    Re: Am I imagining this ???

    I was a Charter Member for a few years but I guess it has expired again. Just haven't taken the time to renew it. I won't be renewing it so I can participate in the "special" little forums, it will be to help support the parts of the site I participate in or read all the time. I'd hate to see the site fold because nobody is supporting it. I found the political forum pretty entertaining though. Kinda like watching the Jerry Springer Show.
    Religious and political forums, imho, are just places for people to post their beliefs and argue with those that don't feel the same with some expressing their opinions in a very pious manner. THAT'S where the problems begin. I don't believe I've ever seen an exchange of ideas/ideals where one person says, "You know what!...you've convinced me that my beliefs have been wrong all along and I'm now going to believe the way you do." THAT just doesn't happen and the disagreements get passed down for centuries. So, if all you liberals would quit causing trouble, we could probably get the forums back.
    Banking off a Northeast wind, sailin' on a summer breeze

  11. #41
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    Re: Am I imagining this ???

    Quote Originally Posted by bakergeol
    I hate to say this- but I agree with the Dane

    Before I hear all the chorus of "You have to pay to play" from loyal TN members or "Why are you so cheap" I have a few words.
    I am not a charter member but believe me I contributed more to the server fund that most charter members have ever contributed here period. I did it because TN at the time promoted FREE SPEECH with the Politics/rants threads. What portion of the words "FREE SPEECH" do some members here not understand? I felt betrayed with the recent actions of TN regarding "FREE SPEECH".

    George


    Nothings free!, and this sight is owned by someone (who pays for it), "you wanna say you gota/outa pay". Its pretty rediculous to say "i desreve it" to someone whos paying real money to provide it.
    Theres no such thing as free speech either, someone probaly gave thier life for it, may not of cost you nothing but it wasent free.
    If youv contributed, good deal No offense, but this isent our sight to demand anything from, if dane doesent like let him move on.
    Leave no stone unturned.

  12. #42

    Feb 2004
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    Re: Am I imagining this ???

    Quote Originally Posted by TEXAN Connection
    Quote Originally Posted by bakergeol
    I hate to say this- but I agree with the Dane

    Before I hear all the chorus of "You have to pay to play" from loyal TN members or "Why are you so cheap" I have a few words.
    I am not a charter member but believe me I contributed more to the server fund that most charter members have ever contributed here period. I did it because TN at the time promoted FREE SPEECH with the Politics/rants threads. What portion of the words "FREE SPEECH" do some members here not understand? I felt betrayed with the recent actions of TN regarding "FREE SPEECH".

    George


    Nothings free!, and this sight is owned by someone (who pays for it), "you wanna say you gota/outa pay". Its pretty rediculous to say "i desreve it" to someone whos paying real money to provide it.
    Theres no such thing as free speech either, someone probaly gave thier life for it, may not of cost you nothing but it wasent free.
    If youv contributed, good deal No offense, but this isent our sight to demand anything from, if dane doesent like let him move on.
    Hi Texas Connection
    I have read a lot of your posts and respect your opinion, however, I disagree with you on this.

    If it is an issue of "if you use this site you have to pay for it" " Why aren't members required to be Charter members to
    view "Today's finds" or "Best Finds" or the "Best of Treasurenet" or all of the other forums of this site? Why just in the Politics thread?

    Or could it be that the owner of this site is well let's say just left of center and didn't like the overwhelming conservative makeup
    of the politics thread? Didn't like the conservative viewpoint here and wanted to "stick it" to the conservatives?

    All other MD forums are conservative and are supported quite well with their sponsors and do not charge their members money to support their site. Why the difference here?

    Think about it.
    George

  13. #43
    us
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    Re: Am I imagining this ???

    Hi Baker , Thank you, I needed a compliment about now.
    Its a private sight so the owner makes the rules thats the biggest reason, but I belive the reasoning was this, some folks were coming on just to post in the rubber room (they werent even affileated with the hobby) some even were coming here as internet trolls and attacking folks in the religious forum, werent utilizing the rest of the sight, and causing problems.
    The rubber rooms topics are pretty High tension and though we all get along and share the hobby we can become pretty heated when it comes to Politics (I'm deffinetly subject to that). So I belive it was done to limit problems by keeping out folks that arent here for the hobby.
    Im gratfull to Marc that folks can use the sight for free, and hope they will contribute if they enjoy it.
    When I first came on I couldent post pictures unless I was a charter member so I became one. (its only 20.00 a yr) I dont know if thats so now.
    So I stand by,- this sight is private property, and I also stand by Marcs decision to limit certain areas to members only.
    I'v also seen improvments to the sight since I first started and Im sure Marc had to fork out money and time for them.

    As far as weeding out conservatives, I dont believe that to be the case at all.
    1) because marc is a pretty fair guy
    2) because if it were the case it doesent seem to be working, It still just as many conservatives as there was b-4 and just as many liberals.

    I dont know what you've contributed to the server fund or how but if its a issue to you maybe you should PM Marc.
    I dont think "ALL" other MD forums are conservative either, and I bet once a sight becomes succesful and evolves they have Members only forums also.
    I have to admit though Iv only visited a few other MD sights so cant speak on that 100% sure.

    Thanks Bakergeol
    Leave no stone unturned.

  14. #44
    Smee

    Re: Am I imagining this ???

    Just seems to me, that if you restrict certain areas to "members only" --- as I have on the forums I have run in the past --- those areas are specific to the audience you want to attract.

    Therefore, a racing forum would have many area open to the public with areas such as suspension tuning tips requiring membership. A team forum about a video game would leave most topics open to the public except maybe "tips and tricks" specific to that game.

    Membership would then have its privileges, relevant to the theme of the forum --- not something of "general interest".

    Restricting areas non-specific to the theme doesn't increase membership, but creates the ill feelings brought out in this thread. More likely to increase membership would be the restricting of a topic like "Todays Finds" or something that would give tips on how to "tune" your detector, specific "best practices" methods for conducting searches, etc.

    And, regardless of what anyone says, the political climate in this country does create problems if you do not speak from the left. Center is unacceptable and from the right is downright offensive to most of the whiners. I have also noticed a somewhat leftward slant in the comments of one of the moderators.

    One last item to consider: "Everything Else" should substitute as there is no other place to post political/religious observations and news items.

  15. #45
    us
    May 2005
    Northern California
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    Re: Am I imagining this ???

    I found this site because I was wanting to learn more about treasure hunting and metal detecting. I did not find it by googling "politics", that wasn't my interest. BUT...to help everyone out here that is just busting at the seams to express their political opinions to others, here ya go!
    http://www.politicsforum.org/
    I didn't really check this site out; you may have to pay to view their metal detecting room.
    Banking off a Northeast wind, sailin' on a summer breeze

 

 
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