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    Re: Windows 7 upgrade

    As I wrote above, I HATE this new Windows LiveMail / att / yahoo mail goatrope with it's damn advertising blinking and jumping and carring on.

    Does anyone have or know of a simple mail app? With NO advertising?
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  2. #17
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    Re: Windows 7 upgrade

    Quote Originally Posted by Shortstack
    As I wrote above, I HATE this new Windows LiveMail / att / yahoo mail goatrope with it's damn advertising blinking and jumping and carring on.

    Does anyone have or know of a simple mail app? With NO advertising?
    Eudora. Has two modes: ad sponsored, and paid. www.eudora.com

    I know that Mozilla (the firefox folks) has one too "Thunderbird" which I hear nothing but good stuff about. http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/

    Hope this helps.

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    Re: Windows 7 upgrade

    Over the years, we have found several good (rephrase - thought was good) email programs, that was fairly benign (none completely adfree), and have joined. Most either crashed and burned, or decided to charge a fee for their email services. Anyone remember "freeyellow"? It was unadorned with dancing characters and you didn't have to click on "skip this" forty times - it had a decent sized mailbox, and they promised they would stay that way forever. Forever turned out to be about 2 years, and then they decided that, since we had been around with them for quite awhile, certainly we wouldn't mind paying a nominal fee each month - $20.00 a month. They were wrong.

    I think the ads support the sites.

    B
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    Re: Windows 7 upgrade

    MAC

  5. #20
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    Re: Windows 7 upgrade

    Yep, that dollar is important Mrs. O and nothing is free anymore. Even the macs are getting greedy. Their built in email is about like the old "outlook express" or free version of Eudora.

    Personally, I use Gmail. I have Firefox with the "adblock plus" addon, but even with IE I don't remember seeing any ads there . . . plus 8 gigs of storage is pretty nice, as well as attachments up to 3 meg attachments (I think it is actually more, but I know I have sent some 3 meg pictures to a client).

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    Re: Windows 7 upgrade

    Quote Originally Posted by mrs.oroblanco
    Over the years, we have found several good (rephrase - thought was good) email programs, that was fairly benign (none completely ad free), and have joined. Most either crashed and burned, or decided to charge a fee for their email services. Anyone remember "freeyellow"? It was unadorned with dancing characters and you didn't have to click on "skip this" forty times - it had a decent sized mailbox, and they promised they would stay that way forever. Forever turned out to be about 2 years, and then they decided that, since we had been around with them for quite awhile, certainly we wouldn't mind paying a nominal fee each month - $20.00 a month. They were wrong.

    I think the ads support the sites.

    B

    Well, I think that the amount of money I pay AT&T each month for tele and DSL charges ought to rate an ad free email.
    "Dobie created the HUNGER............Von Mueller said, EAT". comment by HELM Associates on the dedication page of their book, Treaasure Lead Generation.

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    Re: Windows 7 upgrade

    I have a yahoo account, a gmail account, and a hotmail account.

    You are right - the gmail account doesn't have anything dancing around. But it must have a cookie, or tracking device that my Norton doesn't catch, because, every once in awhile - it will pop up with an extra google toolbar with a bunch of options. I have turned it off - this has been an issue only since I got this new 'puter (Vista).

    B
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    Re: Windows 7 upgrade

    DANG, I miss Outlook Express. A POX on Microsoft for getting away from it.
    "Dobie created the HUNGER............Von Mueller said, EAT". comment by HELM Associates on the dedication page of their book, Treaasure Lead Generation.

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    Re: Windows 7 upgrade

    I just like Mac. I use a big seperate plug in Lacy Back up drive and keep two copies of everything.Never lost any files yet. Have the snow lepard but not installed it. No hiccups. Could not ever imagine going back to a windows based system. Its weird not having to de-frag all the time and run virus programs. I enjoy running multiple programs with a couple browsers open. Think I am going to use that split screen thing so I can see two pages side by side
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    Re: Windows 7 upgrade

    Quote Originally Posted by TnMountains
    I just like Mac. I use a big seperate plug in Lacy Back up drive and keep two copies of everything.Never lost any files yet. Have the snow lepard but not installed it. No hiccups. Could not ever imagine going back to a windows based system. Its weird not having to de-frag all the time and run virus programs. I enjoy running multiple programs with a couple browsers open. Think I am going to use that split screen thing so I can see two pages side by side
    To each their own and what ever makes you happy
    TnMtns
    My experience w/ a Mac
    ---my first one lasted 5 years with no viruses and only crashed twice and that was in the last half year
    ---my next Mac was gotten used and has lasted 4 years for me and is still going (just is too slow now so its backup)
    ---my current Mac is about 3 years old now (1st gen Mac mini) and is still going strong w/ Snow Leopard on it. Haven't noticed it deleting any files.

    And all 3 of those have never had a virus. And the 2 times the 1st Mac crashed I just had to put in the recovery disk and all was happy again. Haven't played with all the features of Snow Leopard yet but am having fun with it so far. TechTools is a great program thats for sure.

  11. #26
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    Re: Windows 7 upgrade

    Quote Originally Posted by mrs.oroblanco
    I have a yahoo account, a gmail account, and a hotmail account.

    You are right - the gmail account doesn't have anything dancing around. But it must have a cookie, or tracking device that my Norton doesn't catch, because, every once in awhile - it will pop up with an extra google toolbar with a bunch of options. I have turned it off - this has been an issue only since I got this new 'puter (Vista).

    B
    Mrs O --- If you have installed Adobe flash player, adobe air, adobe "anything" or any program downloaded from the internet as of late, they always offer you a "Free Toolbar" but in a very sneaky way.

    Your page will load quickly . . . then about 10 or 15 seconds later . . . it will show a check box on a line giving them permission to install that "toolbar" on your computer. It is done that way on purpose.

    Firstly, they make a small amount on each toolbar succesfully installed, so the more installed the better for them.

    Secondly, if you don't want that toolbar and the box showed up as quickly as the rest of the page, or not ticked, they lose out on "helping" you. After all, they know better what you want than you do (at least that is how they look at it).

    And, depending on where you get them, the "updater" that comes with the toolbar is a form of self-protection for the toolbar. Surely you would not want to delete such a valuable thing as a toolbar, so it will reinstall it to make sure you are able to continue to use the stoopid thing. If you don't want them coming back up, delete googleupdater or yahooupdater (don't remember the files offhand) as well as the programs which claim to be "searchprotection". Surely we would never want to change our search engines, so if we do, it corrects our mistake and puts it back.

    Isn't that nice of them?

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    Re: Windows 7 upgrade

    Thanks!!!

    I will definitely look for that file that keeps it off forever - it is probably under that file "Googleupdater" - or something similar.

    Its strange that it didn't happen with XP - not really strange, just different. It's annoying, much like the new Yahoo "shopper' that this computer had when I first got it.

    B

    I really think the next computer will be a Mac - my daughter has been using a Mac for years - she even uses a Mac professionally and she has not had half the problems that our PC's have had.

    The great thing about Mac's - which has not always been the case - is that they now can run window-based programs. My daughter runs everything she wants.
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    Re: Windows 7 upgrade

    I will give up Windows XP, when they pry my cold dead fingers off the mouse.

    Vista is the worst OS since ME, and sucks big time, Windows 7 is just MS trying to correct a #$&% up OS. Just MS way of getting more money from us, not going to happen from me.........
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    Re: Windows 7 upgrade

    Quote Originally Posted by TnMountains
    Get a grip. Buy a Mac and quit worrying about all this virus ridden catastrophic mess
    Or get linux 9.04. Done.

    what to run some windows dependent software... then forget it (unless your into configuring virtual machine ware.. and if you are, chances are you don't have a problem with your PC software).

    A friend of mine just upgraded to 7, and he absolutely hates it. It think XP is going to stay around for a LONG time. Perhaps microsoft needs to expand there business model away from 'operating systems'.

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    Re: Windows 7 upgrade

    Quote Originally Posted by Treasure_Hunter
    I will give up Windows XP, when they pry my cold dead fingers off the mouse.

    Vista is the worst OS since ME, and sucks big time, Windows 7 is just MS trying to correct a #$&% up OS. Just MS way of getting more money from us, not going to happen from me.........
    That was my first impression about Window$ 7, but after using it a couple of days, not so much right now, may change if things start going nuts. Has been really fast, I have premium installed on a notebook, no problems so far.

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeofaustin
    Quote Originally Posted by TnMountains
    Get a grip. Buy a Mac and quit worrying about all this virus ridden catastrophic mess
    Or get linux 9.04. Done.

    what to run some windows dependent software... then forget it (unless your into configuring virtual machine ware.. and if you are, chances are you don't have a problem with your PC software).

    A friend of mine just upgraded to 7, and he absolutely hates it. It think XP is going to stay around for a LONG time. Perhaps microsoft needs to expand there business model away from 'operating systems'.
    I bet you're talking about Ubuntu Linux. Easiest version of Linux I've used so far, although if my machine at home was 64 bit I would be trying Elive. Seen it run, and it looks even better.

    Dontcha just love them Mac folks though --- I work on computers. Repair them, build them for workstations and gamers, build PC based surveillance systems, etc. No one comes to me for a "Mac based" gaming system, no one comes to me for a "Mac based" surveillance system. I have had requests for both under Linux.

    Gaming? nope. Surveillance? There is a version of Linux that is installed on a PCI card. You can be booted in seconds, and looking at your video.

    I will say this about the Macs though, VERY well built hardware. Great design. Seldom have to work on them, but don't believe the "no viruses" stuff. The correct statement is "not the same viruses". Kinda like "purity scan". Bunch of nice church women downloaded it because it promised to remove the porn from your computer. It worked pretty much according to the customers . . . and after a few days (I know because all of the folks I cleaned up had installed it 2 weeks before the trouble started) it went out and got plenty of FRESH porn popups for their computers. Nobody wants old stale porn on their machines! They want the new "Fresh" stuff.

 

 
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