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    Re: Anyone ever take a drum sander to a patio deck

    Tee...........crank up the air con, make the hubby get you a tall frosty glass of iced tea, kick back in front of the TV in a recliner & wait for 70 degree weather. Take my advice, Im not a doctor but I read a book written by a doctor once. A long time ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mighty AP
    Tee...........crank up the air con, make the hubby get you a tall frosty glass of iced tea, kick back in front of the TV in a recliner & wait for 70 degree weather. Take my advice, Im not a doctor but I read a book written by a doctor once. A long time ago.


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    Re: Anyone ever take a drum sander to a patio deck

    Be carefull with the pressure washer when cleaning natural wood, you can destroy the grain if you get to close. Makes for a lot more work later on and looks like crap.
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    Re: Anyone ever take a drum sander to a patio deck

    instead of a drum sander they rent a big push sanders that planes it off even. a drum sander is horrible. it only cost about 35 a day + belts to rent but well worth it.
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    Re: Anyone ever take a drum sander to a patio deck

    Depending on how the sander goes, you may want to try some deck cleaner. Getting a sander in the tight spots is probably impossible. I used to use a belt sander. There are some cleaners that will also "brighten" the wood to prepare it for finishing. Penofin makes good products. I had mixed Penofin stain with Thompsons water seal 50/50 and the finish lasted a long time. A little touch up every couple of years is all that is needed. Some "deck stains" are just latex based at I think they look awful. The older oil based stains bring out the grain in the wood a lot better and look more natural. Talk to a local hardware store about what they think works.

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    Re: Anyone ever take a drum sander to a patio deck

    Quote Originally Posted by packerbacker
    That may be ok. Ever think about biting the bullet and painting the deck? Saves a lot of work and expense.
    I was just at Lowes yesterday and they told me you can't paint a deck, that it would peel up yada yada yada,. They said the only thing that would cover it would be solid stain. Can you paint a deck or not? If so, what kind of paint?

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    Re: Anyone ever take a drum sander to a patio deck

    Quote Originally Posted by Felinepeachy
    Quote Originally Posted by packerbacker
    That may be ok. Ever think about biting the bullet and painting the deck? Saves a lot of work and expense.
    I was just at Lowes yesterday and they told me you can't paint a deck, that it would peel up yada yada yada,. They said the only thing that would cover it would be solid stain. Can you paint a deck or not? If so, what kind of paint?
    Eventually, any high solids coating you put on outdoor wood will succumb to weathering. Even the best marine grade spar varnishes and epoxies fail after a few years. Solid, or opaque, stain will weather and fade over time. IMHO the best approach is to use the best penetrating outdoor stain you can get, and plan on re-coating it every few years. That way you protect the wood itself from decay as much as possible.

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    Re: Anyone ever take a drum sander to a patio deck

    Pressure wash it first, let it dry, hit it with a belt sander. If there are mold spots or stains use a bleach cleaner to bring out the spot. Then u can either use a deck stain or a paint. Kwals makes some very good products that will do a good job. To do it right it is going to take some time but it is not that hard, just remember the knee pads.

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    Re: Anyone ever take a drum sander to a patio deck

    In the last 4 years, I replaced the about 1200 square feet of redwood decking on our mountain home. As with your, ours is subject to rain, snow, ice and extreme sun exposure, in addition to tree sap from the pines and cedars, bird sh1t, and foot traffic.

    Power washing by itself can be detrimental if not used properly.

    I use TSP (tri-sodium phosphate), a non-foaming detergent that is available in any market or hardware store.

    Mix into a bucket of warm water and apply with a stiff brush.

    Let it dry and apply a coat of waterproof sealer.

    Makes the wood look like new...Works wonders every time.

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    Re: Anyone ever take a drum sander to a patio deck

    Whatever you do, at least wear a dust mask. If the wood was treated initially it could contain arsenic or other chemicals. Keep any pets or other humans away during the process. Good luck!
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    Re: Anyone ever take a drum sander to a patio deck

    Quote Originally Posted by stefen
    In the last 4 years, I replaced the about 1200 square feet of redwood decking on our mountain home. As with your, ours is subject to rain, snow, ice and extreme sun exposure, in addition to tree sap from the pines and cedars, bird sh1t, and foot traffic.

    Power washing by itself can be detrimental if not used properly.

    I use TSP (tri-sodium phosphate), a non-foaming detergent that is available in any market or hardware store.

    Mix into a bucket of warm water and apply with a stiff brush.

    Let it dry and apply a coat of waterproof sealer.

    Makes the wood look like new...Works wonders every time.

    Damn... I think you just gave me the magic bullet. ....but you mean sodium percarbonate right? I only took a few minutes to look into it but looks good, and apparently Diluted oxiclean is the same thing and much cheaper to use. Anyway, once I'm finished my coffee I'll definitely get it sorted out and is good to know still having about 90% left to do.

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    Re: Anyone ever take a drum sander to a patio deck

    Quote Originally Posted by packerbacker
    Whatever you do, at least wear a dust mask. If the wood was treated initially it could contain arsenic or other chemicals. Keep any pets or other humans away during the process. Good luck!

    Was never treated and trust me.... with crazy dog people around me it would go to a 5 star hotel for a week before an risk to his healt would happen. That's not saying I would do anything risky... just stating there's a guarantee he is very safe.

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    Re: Anyone ever take a drum sander to a patio deck

    [quote=Iron Patch ]

    No...TSP aka, Tri Sodium Phosphate...only a couple of bucks a box...

    As an example...weathered redwood turns grey to black and when washed with TSP, it returns to its original redwood color...will do the same for other wood species as well...

    Get a stiff floor brush...deck brush...with a screw-in handle


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    Re: Anyone ever take a drum sander to a patio deck

    I've used TSP many times on walls and parts to prep them for painting. Roughs up the finish so new paint adheres better and removes all the dirt, grease and grime. Never thought to use it on the deck. I will now!!
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    Re: Anyone ever take a drum sander to a patio deck

    [quote=stefen ]
    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Patch

    No...TSP aka, Tri Sodium Phosphate...only a couple of bucks a box...

    As an example...weathered redwood turns grey to black and when washed with TSP, it returns to its original redwood color...will do the same for other wood species as well...

    Get a stiff floor brush...deck brush...with a screw-in handle

    Ok good, thanks for the correction.

    So what type of concentration should I use? I just called, and it's $10 for a liter bottle.

 

 
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