This is your land, but who really ownes it?

[Frankn]

Suprise! The government ownes 650M ac. or 29% of America and they are planning on acquiring 13M more as "national monuments". That means 13M more acres you can't hunt on. Frank

 

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[Frankn]

They own 84.5% of Nevada !

 

[mrs.oroblanco]

They don't own anything - they just think they do. They forgot the meaning of "stewardship". And let's not forget about the environmental groups, that our governments are selling our lands to (how can you sell something you don't own is beyond me, I think if I did that, someone would be putting me in prison for fraud).

And then, there are the states, the counties, parishes, and your neighbors. They tax, make regulations, covenants, ordinances and then your
neighbor complains about what you are doing on the land you own.

So.................................who really owns what?

B

 

[ivan salis]

actually the federal govt or various state and local tax districts owns all the land * stop and think -- if they do not "own it outright" as a park or such -- if a "private person or bussiness" so called "owns" the land --they charge annual rent "known" as taxes --do not pay the "land rent" taxes --and see what good "owning" the house / bussiness building that sits upon that land does you --as its sold for "back taxes" owed to the govt "tax" folks (city, county, state and federal)

so in effect you never really "own" the land outright -- you just have the "annual rent" of it and some control of whats built upon it , maybe how it can be used / exploited and who you allow to access it.

not allowing folks to every really own land --tax free--is how the govt keeps its self in money -- you have to always pay to just to stay put in the house you "own" -- land taxes are thus a never ending exploitation of home owners and bussiness owners -- thus you will always have to pay them for life if you own anything thus your forced to support the grubbermint for life.---or you can be be a life long "renter" of property -- subject to the whims of so called "land owners" that rent a place to live to you.

 

[Michigan Badger]

see revision below...

 

[jeff of pa]

Nobody will Ever Own Land in America.

There is no Free enterprise Either.
Ask all the People who Want to Build
Casinos, & Walmarts Where they want.

& forget about the Right to live where you want.

If a New Highway are army Base wants your Land
Your Gone.

What if I'd like to build a Home
in Centralia. pa ?

Dosn't matter if your Up to date
on yout Taxes or Not.

However you can
"Be all you can be" IF your
willing to let somone be worse then your Mother to you
& Get down & Kiss what they want for a few years.

 

[FarmerChick]

All an illusion.

you don't own a thing. at any time anyone can take from you....legal or illegally

states take land for roads, you don't have a say point blank.

nah, just pay your taxes etc and pretend you 'do own' something LOL--til 'they' come knocking.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

No surprise here, we were being taxed all the way back to the foundation of our country including property taxes...

"When the Revolutionary War began, the colonies had well-developed tax systems that made a war against the world’s leading military power thinkable. The tax structure varied from colony to colony, but five kinds of taxes were widely used. Capitation (poll) taxes were levied at a fixed rate on all adult males and sometimes on slaves. Property taxes were usually specific taxes levied at fixed rates on enumerated items, but sometimes items were taxed according to value. Faculty taxes were levied on the faculty or earning capacity of persons following certain trades or having certain skills. Tariffs (imposts) were levied on goods imported or exported and excises were levied on consumption goods, especially liquor." http://eh.net/encyclopedia/article/fisher.property.tax.history.us

 

[packerbacker]

Google Obama's "Great Outdoors" program and read between the lines. It's a new program to "protect" public land. He is involving "corporations" and "big ranchers" in developing this program. Right now these ranchers pay pennies to lease thousands of acres of public land for their livestock to graze on so that can maintain their wealth. They also fence it off and deny access to the public. In some cases they post no trespaasing signs on land they don't have a right to. The public believes they shouldn't be allowed on the land and ignor..ant..ly obey the signs. These ranchers he is involving in this program would just as soon be able to shoot the public for walking on their own land. Do you think the timber or railroad industries want you on land they are operating. No, but they are involved. Lastly, "environmental groups" are "HAILING" the program........need I say more?? Forget enjoying "your" land people. You will be controlled like robots if allowed on the land at all.

 

[Saturna]

All an illusion.

you don't own a thing. at any time anyone can take from you....legal or illegally

states take land for roads, you don't have a say point blank.

nah, just pay your taxes etc and pretend you 'do own' something LOL--til 'they' come knocking.

Absolutely correct. Land is not owned, it's only controlled.

 

[mrs.oroblanco]

My, my - we ARE a cynical bunch, aren't we And we all agree.

I don't even want to hear about Obama - in case you haven't noticed, this has been going on forever - we have been taught to "compromise".

The government (or environmental group) wants 1000 acres. We say "no". We go to meetings, write letters, the whole bit. Then, the government
(or environmental group) says - in some court somewhere - "they are not dealing in good faith". So, we have to deal in good faith. The government (or environmental group) says: "well, we can probably do what we want with 200 acres". The "people" fight back - no, that's too
much. You can have 100. The government (or environmental group) says " ok". We have a win-win situation. My arse - the "people" have just LOST - 100 acres.

Pretty soon, we are going to be the endangered species.


And, even though I really believe that the majority of folks feel this way - we are not "organized" - like the government (or environmental group).

Hmmmm, I see a trend in my post

Beth

 

[Bum Luck]

Look up 'sovereignty' in the dictionary.

 

[Frankn]

Bumluck, you mean Nixon was right, he was king?

 

[spartacus53]

Well 99% of you are on the right track, thank god I'm in the 1% I do own a small parcel of land, very small to say the least. This little plot can be taken, but then again they have to find it Right now I have this piece of land in a 4' x 6' box, maybe a foot deep. Within this land I have already planted a small forest of Bonsai trees and I'm looking to grow a miniature orchard.

Remember you own nothing, you are just leasing it for a while. As for foreign countries owning property in the US, I'd like to see them take it with them if they are ever asked, or told to leave

 

[Michigan Badger]

I have decided I will be king of America.

 

[Frankn]

Watch it Kings are sometimes "Throne" out. LOL

 

[Squishy]

No need to get all uptight about it, we are just borrowing it for a short time while we are here anyway. You can't take it with you, and if you leave it to your children, they will have to pay an inheritance tax on it, or loose it. So enjoy it while you can, and don't worry about what happens when your gone. Good Luck. rockhound

I read in a David Bach book, that you can set up a "trust" instead of a "will" that can protect your children from the inheritance tax. I have not looked into it, but he wrote that they would be co-owners but that you can set it up so that you have full control while you are alive. Always something I planned to look into, but haven't done it.