Oil..... Why wont anyone address this????

[Smee]

It evaporates . . .

 

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[sniffer]

just like my paycheck

 

[ivan salis]

i only want a electric car when they make a solar panel type roof that can "feed" the batteries energy for "free" thus costing me nothing to drive it --but then the grubberminnt will make car tags (licences) --ie road taxes * cost $5000 a year to "upkeep" the roads --that the new "free fuel" vehicles ride on--their going to get their "pound of flesh" tax wize one way or another cuz thats how THEY EAT. (off the public taxes )

 

[spartacus53]

Do you want to forget about paying higher prices at the pump, and you don't feel like forking the money over to the electric company Well, I have the solution

Get yourself anyone of the following

http://www.about-bicycles.com/Bike-Articles/most-popular-bike-brands.html

 

[pat-tekker-cat]

I wanted to trade my car in years ago for a horse.
Just wasn't sure where I'd mount headlights, for trip down I-95.
Surely I wouldn't need liability or PIP!

 

[bakergeol]

I did a little research on this. here's what I found out
major oil companies, for the most part pump and refine their own oil, which averages 5-15 dollars per barrel. a barrel of oil is 42 gallons which when refined makes 19.5 gallons of gas plus heating oil, diesel fuel and other petrol products
the federal tax on a gallon of gas is 18.4 cpg. it doesn't change with the price of gas.
states add their own taxes on gas which range from a low of 8 cpg in Alaska to a high of 52.9 cpg in Florida.
there is also costs in transportation and other small things. by my rough figuring, and I mean rough, taking it all in, it figures out to approximately a dollar per gallon to produce, plus around 10 cpg for transportation, 10-15 cpg for the station, plus another 10-15 cpg tied up in other costs. which still figures out to around 1.40 cpg. total.
gas here right now is around 3.68 p/gallon which leaves 2.28 dollars p/gallon left over.
where does that go?

The problem with your logic is your idea that "major oil companies, for the most part pump and refine their own oil" If this was true we would not have to import our oil from overseas. Major oil companies buy the majority of their oil from overseas and do not produce it themselves. The states make more money in gasoline sales than oil companies. By the way Alaska's take is 26 cents a gallon and California's tax is 66 cents a gallon. Whereas oil companies make a few cents in profit per gallon of gas the average state tax take is 48 cents per gallon.

George

 

[Smee]

The problem with your logic is your idea that "major oil companies, for the most part pump and refine their own oil" If this was true we would not have to import our oil from overseas. Major oil companies buy the majority of their oil from overseas and do not produce it themselves. The states make more money in gasoline sales than oil companies. By the way Alaska's take is 26 cents a gallon and California's tax is 66 cents a gallon. Whereas oil companies make a few cents in profit per gallon of gas the average state tax take is 48 cents per gallon.

George

At least that is how THEY sell it.

On the other hand, the promoters of wrestling matches tell us that's real as well . . . RIP Randy "Macho Man" Savage.

 

[Michigan Badger]

Your point is a very old one and correct. No one really disagrees with your point (but most won't admit it). Not even the oil people.

However, no one will do anything about it because all the persons in the world who have the power to do something won't. The reason for this is because directly or indirectly all profit one way or another when the masses are cheated.

Yup, it's true. The rich get richer off us (the suckers).

Some say whomever controls the money controls the world. But this is really not correct. The truth is, whomever controls everything in regard to oil, controls the money and the world. Oil is to the world economy what blood is to the body. Oil is really even more important than food and water. For without oil many would have no food or water.

Since oil is so necessary and everything depends upon it, oil is worth what anyone is willing to pay for it. Due to laws, price gouging is just a little more subtle way of unfairly raising prices and getting away with it. If they just jacked prices up without any "strawman" argument there would be hassles for those who would rather not be bugged by the poor whining masses.

So, why doesn't the media speak out? Who owns the media? It sure ain't the masses.

If one works in even a small local TV station, one is briefed on what one can and cannot say. The media is strictly controlled to tell us what certain people want us to hear.

The media and political powers (actually one and the same) have made us all into their little dupes.

So why do they raise gas prices the day after a barrel of oil increases? They always have and they always will because it works. The masses programmed to accept what they're told says: Well, if that wasn't right they'd tell me so on the 6 o-clock news.

 

[hombre_de_plata_flaco]

The way I have dealt with high gas prices was to buy stock in oil companies. That way I get a little return on all the gas $$$ I spend. Big Oil now has a responsibility to me as a shareholder and I demand profits, so now I'm not bothered as much by gas prices.

 

[pat-tekker-cat]

The way I have dealt with high gas prices was to buy stock in oil companies. That way I get a little return on all the gas $$$ I spend. Big Oil now has a responsibility to me as a shareholder and I demand profits, so now I'm not bothered as much by gas prices.

Hey hombre, that was working for friends of mine, with mucho BP stock, but then they had an oil-spill.
I do follow what you're saying though.

 

[hombre_de_plata_flaco]

The way I have dealt with high gas prices was to buy stock in oil companies. That way I get a little return on all the gas $$$ I spend. Big Oil now has a responsibility to me as a shareholder and I demand profits, so now I'm not bothered as much by gas prices.

Hey hombre, that was working for friends of mine, with mucho BP stock, but then they had an oil-spill.
I do follow what you're saying though.

I actually bought some BP stock during the spill when it was trading low.

http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=BP+Interactive#symbol=BP;range=2y

 

[pat-tekker-cat]

Oh good for you, Yeah, my friends just sat, things go up, go down, go back up..........
whadayagonnado? It all washes out.

 

[Smee]

Some of us here have really been brainwashed by the media, by the oil companies, and the gooberment. Let's figure out who . . .

Have you noticed that whenever there is even a slight rise in crude oil prices, the price at the pump goes up immediately . . . even though the arrival of that fuel from OPEC is weeks and possibly months away? Have you noticed as well that whenever there is even a LARGE dip in crude oil prices, the price at the pump takes days or even weeks to reflect that drop? Why?

In the last month, what have gas prices done? They have steadily gone up. So we can therefore assume that crude oil prices have steadily gone up, right? Wrong.

Wow! They actually DROPPED by 11% in the last month while the price of gasoline has been steadily going up. Last week we finally got an almost 1% drop in prices here in Crossett.

At a per gallon cost of $3.779, an 11% drop would have made our prices drop to $3.37/gallon. Instead we dropped to $3.739 --- about one percent.

So, what about for the last quarter? What have oil prices done?

Well, oil prices have gone up, but now they're back to the same level as they were at the beginning of this quarter.

Great!!! Oil prices are back to the same level as they were in January before we hit the $3 mark here in southeast Arkansas. So, what have gasoline prices done?

So, the cost of a barrel of crude oil is back to where it started this quarter, but gasoline prices are up by 19%. So, does anyone see greed here? So, does anyone see that the media is turning a blind eye on the facts? Hmm... could the gooberment be complicit?

Come on!!! Are you a bunch of ostriches, or are you all hiding your heads somewhere a bit darker

 

[Dano Sverige]

If you'd all save the huge amounts of hot air you expend on this subject and used it to power your bicycles after giving up your motorized vehicles, then you wouldn't have all this stress and worry...would you?
But you won't...will you?

They can do whatever they like because they know the majority can NEVER give up on motorized transport in all it's many forms. All of which we'll willingly pay a lot more for!
Oil has become like Oxygen and water...humans couldn't survive without it. Be thankful we're paying what we pay now, however high it goes, because come "the last day of oil"....you really don't want to be around!

 

[spartacus53]

I said the same thing Dano, 1.3 billion Chinese can't all be wrong Just think, no stopping at the jump, better cardio, and helping the environment. The preceding smiley is doing jumping jacks to warm up for a ride

 

[pat-tekker-cat]

I'm pretty impressed with all the work smee has put into this.
But, I can't help but wonder, does he think one of us here, can DO anything about it for him?

Smee, I worked gas stations for years, yeah, the price goes down, but sometimes the owner says, "don't lower the prices, keep 'em the same". So I've had to do that, in the past.

At present, can you come up with an effective way, to hit the gas companies and big oil, where it hurts, that they may bend and cater and little? No one gets "boycott" in this nation anymore. I drive, a less than 4 cylinder, car, with a motorcycle engine in it, only way I gonna get better gas milage, is to push the thing down the road.
And I am at a total loss, as to what we may can do, to help ya struggle here, unless you just like typing.
If that's the case, then type away, as the prices keep going up, and good luck.

 

[Smee]

I'm pretty impressed with all the work smee has put into this.
But, I can't help but wonder, does he think one of us here, can DO anything about it for him?

Smee, I worked gas stations for years, yeah, the price goes down, but sometimes the owner says, "don't lower the prices, keep 'em the same". So I've had to do that, in the past.

At present, can you come up with an effective way, to hit the gas companies and big oil, where it hurts, that they may bend and cater and little? No one gets "boycott" in this nation anymore. I drive, a less than 4 cylinder, car, with a motorcycle engine in it, only way I gonna get better gas milage, is to push the thing down the road.
And I am at a total loss, as to what we may can do, to help ya struggle here, unless you just like typing.
If that's the case, then type away, as the prices keep going up, and good luck.

Nope, no one here can help stop it, but some of these folks could do us all a favor and stop covering for the greedy SOBs. They get on here and parrot the lies they've heard from goobernment and the oil companies, which is a disservice to all. It continues a pattern of obfuscation that benefits big oil and the politicians who benefit from the kickbacks they give out under the table.

Now, what can anyone do? Take the above information and contact your local news affiliate. I have. I have also posted the information to their website's forum in the form of a challenge to pull their heads out of the sand or whatever else it may be stuck in and stop carrying the Oil Companies' water.

Boycotts will never work. We all need this stuff until a better way of powering us to work, play, etc. is found. Why won't they work?

Well, if you boycott only one company, the others are going to make more money. They are NOT going to lower their prices because one of their competitors is getting hit. They would also love to see them "tank" as it means more revenue for them. The cycle would continue until only one or two oil companies are in business --- then you'll really get a rude awakening. We'll be paying more than those "I'll bend over and smile cause I like it" euro-peons (misspelled on purpose Dano, if you're reading)

I said the same thing Dano, 1.3 billion Chinese can't all be wrong Just think, no stopping at the jump, better cardio, and helping the environment. The preceding smiley is doing jumping jacks to warm up for a ride

I can only assume you are talking about bicycles Spart. Well, even the Chinese are giving them up, which is partly the cause of the rise in oil prices over the past decade.

On the other hand, I hope you enjoy your bike ride. For me it would be 33 miles a day rain or shine or snow. Which wouldn't be a problem except that I'm 53, almost 54, with a bad heart. I do ride, but have trouble doing two miles at a time, so for some of us bicycling isn't an option.

 

[olroy70]

For everyone who is worried about the enormous profits that big oil is making!!!!!!!!!!!!

Think of it more like OPEC is making it. With big help from the environmentalist! And, big guvment....Especially, the ONE!

We have oil, but he/they are pushing higher gas prices.

We have drilling here. I can see at least a dozen new wells around here. Takes about a week to get down to oil, then, they move the rig, and start over.

Now, here is some proof that we have trillions of gallons of untapped oil.

http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/article.asp?ID=1911

olroy

 

[sniffer]

we may have trillions of gallons or it could even be quadrillions, it won't make a damn bit of difference, because you can't force a company to sell their product if the don't want to.
why would any company want to flood the market with their product, just to see the price go down.
DeBeers fixed their problem with diamonds, they bought out all their competitors to control the market. now don't you think big oil does the same?
big oil companies that pump and refine their own
sunoco
citgo
conoco
phillips
bp
amoco
marathon
I'd say those are some pretty big companies
41% of US oil is pumped, refined, and sold in the US
58% of "our" oil comes from other countries in this order according to amount
canada 9%
Saudi Arabia 8%
Venezuela 8%
Mexico 7%

 

[olroy70]

Beg your pardon!!!!!!!!!

you are looking the wrong direction...

Guvment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! nobama stopped drilling in the gulf for ONE accident

EPA is stopping fracking...... (look it up!!!!!)

Most of the Permian basin is being stopped by no less than the endangered species act!

Guvmment, guvment, guvment....

Nobama promised higher gas prices before he was elected, but YOU voted for him!

BTW. research helps destroy the myths of socialism........ and the internet, NOT CNN or MSMBC.......

olroy!