A fishermans rant.

lobsterman

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A fisherman's rant.

Please do Not buy any farmed, or foreign caught seafood !!!. Demand Wild caught American seafood !!!. Protect America's commercial fishermen, and remember the term overfishing is a giant Lie !!!. just like global warming was a giant lie !!!. both are part of the very same corrupt, UN. controled, politically manipulated, socialist eco-agenda that is stealing your rights and resources away from you !!!.

Given that most of my life, livelyhood, food, survival, work, and recreation is absolutely dependant upon natural resources, perhaps i am a bit ahead of you in seeing all of our Rights being violated !!!. I am sorry to wake you, but... we are now facing the greatest loss of Rights, Freedoms, Liberty,and access to all forms of life sustaining Natural Resources, and it is far worse than many people realize.

The oceans and the enviroment are now 500% cleaner than they were in the era from the 1930'~the 1960's !!!. The oceans right now are absolutely teeming with life !!!. I should know i have spent my life upon the sea !!!.

Wake up !!!, there is a corrupt political agenda that is specifically designed to steal away everyones resource rights. Many fisheries surveys were intentionally skewd to provide incorrect data !!!.

I have personally seen survey lobster traps set on sandy shallow bottom where the only lobsters that would be caught were short lobsters. and i have seen trawl nets towed with one side shortened up so the nets towed sidways and no fish would be caught. Crab traps and flounder hooks were set in shallow waters in the winter where nothing would be caught. Herring surveys done with nets with an 8" mesh so theat the fish swim out and get away never to be recorded in the fisheries surveys. They have done marine fisheries and catch surveys in areas and times of the year where nobody would catch anything !!!.

The federal government and the NMFS (national marine fisheries service) has drastically cut the number of independant small boat commercial fisherman, reduced catch limits, closed off the most productive fishing grounds, required grates across the front of trawl nets, required cut outs and escape holes in the nets, greatly reduced our allowable days at sea fishing, exponentially increased the costs of fishery licenses, permits, and regulatory compliance, the have increased the mesh sizes to such a degree that the species that you are fishing for swims freely thru the nets, they have drastically reduced the amounts and types of gear fisherman can use, they have restricted our options of changing fisheries for different times of the year, They have shut down fisheries before the fish have even migrated into the areas etc. etc. etc. And then after all that they say the catches are down, WTF !!!, after all of those regulatory changes of course the catches are down !!!. The government intentionally lies about the catch rates and then does not even include or account for the decimations their regulations have done to America's small boat commercial fishermen !!!.

I am or rather i was a small boat commercial fisherman / lobsterman, that is until the government under the guise of protecting the enviroment, decided to disastriously overregulate my industry into oblivion, and then hand the fisheries quota and catch allocations over to the big corporate owned and controled boats. As a commercial fisherman i learned to expect the lies, deceit, treachery, slander, and of being screwed over royally by the government, the enviromental groups, the phony science, the media, and the corporations. And now those very same groups are trying to use the very same tactics and gameplan to over-regulate and control every aspect of all of our lives.

There are only soo many times that they can do 50-60% reductions of catch, gear, and days at sea. I should know, as i have now been reduced to 0- days at sea, 0% total allowable catch, major gear and types of gear reductions and restrictions, and yet i am still being forced to submit daily reports, and they are also trying to force me to buy and pay for a vessel monitoring system. I refuse to comply !!!. I have done absloutely nothing wrong and yet i am being treated like a criminal !!!, and they expect me to pay for the privilege of having all of my rights violated. I say bullshit, they can kiss my rosey red ass !!!.

Considering all the high % reductions in my allowable catch, i would probably be in the negative in catch shares and days at sea by at least about 250% by now. I guess pretty soon i am going to have to start creating fish and time out of thin air. The governmental decimation of the fishing industry thru completely unnecessary overregulation and attrition thru regulatory eco-assault, really started under George Bush Sr. when he started using America's natural resources as an international negotiating tool. The debt that China owns was secured with the natural resources of the USA.

Our own government has literally stolen away our freedom of opportunity. it is sad to say... but we can no longer tell our children that they can be anything they want to be when they grow up. Sustainability is absolutely meaningless when they take away your rights to access the life sustaining natural resources that you and your family needs to survive !!!.

A corrupt political agenda done under the guise of enviromentalism, is still a corrupt political agenda !!!, reguardless of their good intentions !!!. Remember the road to hell is paved with the best of intentions !!!.

We all know that it is a corrupt, Corporate controled, UN. directed, Globalist, Socialist take over of all the worlds resources !!!. We are not the corporation's, the government's or U.N.'s Property !!!, and we will not be controled as such !!!.We are not all brain dead socialist, democrat, liberals !!!. My and my families Rights, Freedoms, Liberty, sustinence, and Survival are Not open to political negotiation, regardless of what party is in power !!!, and i will speak out against any and all threats to my family, or my country whenever i see it !!!.



The "green agenda and the thousands of over-reaching environmental laws" are a big part of the problem !!!. The enviromental movement has been funded and taken over by the multi-national corporations since the late 1970's, and their corrupt manipulations, influence, and control of governments laws and regulations are being used as a way of taking the resource rights away from the individuals.



I did not post this note on here to be an instigater, and i am not a troll. I am simply posting what i am personally seeing happening !!!. I have many friends that are liberals and conservatives, and many on both sides have still failed to see that their individual resource Rights to access all forms of life sustaining Natural resources are being taken away from them, and that the control over these resources are being handed to the multi-national corporations.



Please do a bit of simple research and you will see that most of the biggest enviromental organizations, grants, trusts, foundations, etc. are funded and controled by some of the biggest corporations in the world. They are not funding the enviromental movement out of some sense of civic or enviromental responsibility. What motivates these corporations to do anything is still... Money, Power, Greed, and control !!!.



It has been proven repeatedly, over and over, that man made Global warming, overfishing, overpopulation, and climate change are all absolute Lies !!!.The same green agenda and the thousands of over-reaching enviromental laws that have put millions of us out of our homes, jobs, and businesses, will soon effect and regulate nearly every aspect of your life.

Don't forget that the all of these same socialist and enviromental laws that violate all of our Natural, Civil, Constitutional, Parental, Privacy, Medical, Property, Resource, Financial, and Religious Rights, will also directly violate all of your own Rights !!!. Please stop pushing the corrupt socialist green agenda !!!.



I am but a humble fisherman that has had his life, livelyhood, finances, business value, retirement, health, and freedom absolutely destroyed by completely unnecessary, over-reaching, oppresive, unconstitutional governmental regulations.



Thank you for reading this, and for putting up with this angry old Fishermans ranting and raving.
 

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Re: A fisherman's rant.

Great Thread! Lobsterman! :headbang: Say whatever you wish...
 

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Re: A fisherman's rant.

As i fully expect this thread to soon be deleted under the "politically charged" rule....i'll keep this short!

As you've just found out, you DON'T HAVE any "freedom, rights, or liberty"! (Although you may still have some apple pie?)
Like i always say, "if a government wants it...they'll take it!" and that's that!
All this blaming the UN for all Americas wrongs?...come on! Your government allows you to think like that to divert fire away from their camp. The UN couldn't get the US to sign the "global warming" treaty for years, do you really think the US will allow them to dictate American "home soil" policy??

Your "freedom, rights, liberty and the American way" are all just "illusion", a false sense of security that'll vanish the instant your political officials feel the urge to take what's yours.
You say it yourself..."i'm forced to do this, i'm forced to do that" etc etc. The only "freedom" you have is to now become a trucker instead of a fisherman! (or whatever.)
The sooner Americans can get this into their heads and understand that they're just the same as the rest of the worlds "minions", the better off you'll all be.

I feel for you mate, truly i do, but the same thing has happened to the UK and Euro fishing fleets for decades. It's scandalous but...welcome to the real world. :dontknow:

(Yes, that was "short" lol)
 

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Re: A fisherman's rant.

Dano, I'll make mine even shorter.

Eat beef :headbang:

It is sad what is happening to many livelihoods today :(
 

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Re: A fisherman's rant.

wild caught salmon was $16.99 per lb
now it is on sale this week for $10.99 per lb

yes I will buy a few and freeze

best one can do
 

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Re: A fisherman's rant.

@ Tuberale... Over-regulation... Although it may seem insignificant to you, it is deadly serious to me, as i have had my life, livelyhood, finances, business value, retirement, health, Rights and freedom absolutely destroyed by completely unnecessary, over-reaching, oppresive, unconstitutional, governmental enviromental regulations.
 

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Re: A fisherman's rant.

thats the (grubbermint) at work --(greedy grubby govt politicans and the their big money donor / controllers ) who are bent on making the bulk mass of the american people be their "enslaved" cash cows -- no rights --except the right to work hard --have little-- pay much in taxes
 

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Re: A fisherman's rant.

lobsterman said:
@ Tuberale... Over-regulation... Although it may seem insignificant to you, it is deadly serious to me, as i have had my life, livelyhood, finances, business value, retirement, health, Rights and freedom absolutely destroyed by completely unnecessary, over-reaching, oppresive, unconstitutional, governmental enviromental regulations.
Wish you were able to dive off Oregon's coast. Regulation only way some previously common bottom fish still exist today. Remains of mile-long drift nets cover Oregon's coastal waters, even though they are illegal. Ling cod put on restricted harvest, along with halibut, Orange roughy, and some bass.

What is over-regulation to you is not over-regulation here. I'd say we're barely holding even at this time.

Personal experience: when I first started bottom-fishing in the 1970's, Orange roughies were common, nearly every day catches. Now they have to be released, whether they survive or not. In the 70's used to have a limit of 3 ling cod per day, went to 1/day 2 years ago, and now the population is back up enough to allow 2/day. Total bottom fishing catch in the 70's was 30 fish/day. Today's limit is 6. In the 70's, a fishing license allowed you to fish for everything in Oregon: salmon, halibut, tuna, crab, seafood of any kind and type. Today's regulations have separate licenses just for shellfish and crab. Separate halibut tags. No question these are increased regulations. And no question they are needed.
 

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Re: A fisherman's rant.

Vanishing wildlife, vanishing wilderness, all the horrors brought on by the existance of human beings exposed!


. . . This message sponsored by the same jackasses who got caught making up "global warming".
 

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Re: A fisherman's rant.

I just wish people would understand what happens in a nation when they take away the peoples rights to mine, hunt, fish, ranch, or farm for their own life sustaining resources. Americans must be allowed to produce our own food resources, or we are all going to be in grave danger.
Since the government has made the choice to make me into an illegal miner, hunter, rancher, fisherman, or farmer, Then so be it... It will be an outlaw miner, hunter, rancher, fisherman, or farmer i shall become !!!.

Anyone who thinks that they are going to stop me from providing the life sustaining natural resources that my family needs to survive, runs the very real risk of becoming part of the food chain !!!.
 

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