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Aug 29, 2011, 05:35 PM
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 MINELAB XS-2 Pro ....... XTERRA 305 ....... EXPLORER SE PRO
Guitars ; and now for something Completely Moronic
Environmental Enforcement Agents Targeting Guitars
tetrahedrassface writes "According to the Wall Street Journal, Federal agents again raided guitar maker Gibson this past week, seizing several pallets of wood and computer documents. At heart of the issue is the wood that is being used in guitars and whether or not it comes from sustainable sources.
http://www.parevolution.com/newswire...geting-guitars
discriminate out Spike TV and American Diggers !
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Aug 29, 2011, 05:40 PM
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Re: Guitars ; and now for something Completely Moronic
OMG that is so outrageous!.
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Aug 29, 2011, 05:47 PM
#3
 The Cesspool
Re: Guitars ; and now for something Completely Moronic
Another prime example of one of the many things wrong with this country. A complete waste of taxpayers time and money. The title of this thread is right on. Competely Moronic !!!
DOWN WITH AMERICAN DIGGERS, SAY NO TO SPIKE TV! THEY MAKE ALL OF US LOOK BAD!
"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do, than by the ones you did do." Mark Twain
"A handful of common sense is worth a bushel of learning." Unknown
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Aug 29, 2011, 05:50 PM
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Re: Guitars ; and now for something Completely Moronic
It's so ridiculous I can't even comment without totally going off and turning it into a political thread. But.......... @#$%^&*()_(*&^%$#@#$%^&*(*&^%$#@#$%^&*()(*&^%$#@#$ %^&*()(*&^%$#@#$%^&*()_)(*&^%$#@#$%^&*()_+_)(*&^%$ #@#$%^&*()_(*&^%$#%^&*()_)(*&^%$%^&*())(*&&$#$#^&* ()_+_)(##$^&*()_+_%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!
Well...................you get my point.
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Aug 29, 2011, 06:07 PM
#5
Re: Guitars ; and now for something Completely Moronic
im in big trouble
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Aug 29, 2011, 06:10 PM
#6
Re: Guitars ; and now for something Completely Moronic
Just do like I am and lay low. Maybe they didn't get your name from the Gibson computer files. What will they do come to your house and demand your guitar? This is getting completely absurd. What will they do next? Don't answer that. rockhound
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Aug 29, 2011, 06:13 PM
#7
Re: Guitars ; and now for something Completely Moronic
I'm glad I have a Martin...........and I would give up my guns before I would give up my guitar
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Aug 29, 2011, 06:35 PM
#8
Re: Guitars ; and now for something Completely Moronic
 Originally Posted by Felinepeachy
I'm glad I have a Martin...........and I would give up my guns before I would give up my guitar
I have an Ibanez and an Alvarez.
What kind of wood is your guns made of?
Behold, ye despisers, and wonder, and perish: for I work a work in your days, a work which ye shall in no wise believe, though a man declare it unto you. Acts 13:41
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Aug 29, 2011, 06:42 PM
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Re: Guitars ; and now for something Completely Moronic
Some guns have wood on them silly, you knwo that though LOL I have Pachmayr wrap around rubber grips
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Aug 29, 2011, 09:49 PM
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Re: Guitars ; and now for something Completely Moronic
Gibson is not the only one using exotic hardwoods in their guitars. Breedlove, Gibson, Guild, Martin, and Taylor all use these exotic tonewoods. Also all custom guitar and mandolin makers use exotic hardwoods. This may just be the tip of the iceberg when it comes to harassing manufacturers of musical instruments. Even some lesser priced guitars use exotic tonewoods. Some countries have stopped selling and shipping these hardwoods before they become extinct. Some have already become extinct in certain locations. Unless they have purchased them illegally, I don't see the problem. rockhound
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Aug 29, 2011, 10:24 PM
#11
Re: Guitars ; and now for something Completely Moronic
The government could care less about exotic woods, it's all about the money.
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Aug 30, 2011, 09:40 AM
#12
 18C "De Oppresso Liber" "WP"
Re: Guitars ; and now for something Completely Moronic
Just let them try and come to my house and get my Gibsons or other guitars! I'll show them my other guns I play with! And if they try and get those as well, I will let them have the bullets first!
If I was President; I would take away welfare! I wouldn't make any bargains with foreign countries! I wouldn't take #@*& from any country! I would close the borders! I would get rid of taxes! I would make EVERYONE own at least 5 guns! I would ENFORCE Finders Keepers Law !!!!!!!!
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Aug 30, 2011, 10:25 AM
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Re: Guitars ; and now for something Completely Moronic
Got American Walnut on my latest Henrys purchase. Totally renewable!
Banking off a Northeast wind, sailin' on a summer breeze
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Aug 31, 2011, 05:53 AM
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 WolfPack Life Member
Re: Guitars ; and now for something Completely Moronic
 Originally Posted by Felinepeachy
I'm glad I have a Martin...........and I would give up my guns before I would give up my guitar
We shouldn't be expected to give either up, regardless of the wood they use making them.
And really, the reason we can't post a reply without it containing some form of political sentiment is simply because the government has it's fingers in darn near everything we do or try to do.
Waaaay too big.
Sky Pilot
"Surrender, surrender but don't give youself away" Cheap Trick
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Sep 01, 2011, 10:52 AM
#15
 Living the WP
Re: Guitars ; and now for something Completely Moronic
Okay,, who heard the interview with the CEO of Gibson Guitars? He said He has all the documentation that this wood was obtained legally.
And now the kicker... The justice department told him they could make all of this go away if they moved manufacturing out of the USA!!!
Only lose about 1200 jobs here! What is going on with the justice department?
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Sep 01, 2011, 11:09 AM
#16
For that special someone. Can ya diggit?
Re: Guitars ; and now for something Completely Moronic
I was discussing this with a buddy the other day. His info indicated certain campaign contributions by Gibson that may have precipitated the actions against them. I don't know the truth behind it but will have to check it out and then see you guys in Politics to discuss.
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Sep 01, 2011, 11:45 AM
#17
 Living the WP
Re: Guitars ; and now for something Completely Moronic
 Originally Posted by DigginThePast
I was discussing this with a buddy the other day. His info indicated certain campaign contributions by Gibson that may have precipitated the actions against them. I don't know the truth behind it but will have to check it out and then see you guys in Politics to discuss.
Thank You Diggin, Looking forward to it!
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Sep 01, 2011, 07:00 PM
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 LET FREEDOM RING! WP
Re: Guitars ; and now for something Completely Moronic
Ain't it great to know that major crime has diminished to the point that this is how law enforcement agencies spend their day?
And our money? 
Scott
CAN YA DIG IT?
Democracy: The only system where
two idiots can out-vote one genius
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Sep 01, 2011, 07:05 PM
#19
 MINELAB XS-2 Pro ....... XTERRA 305 ....... EXPLORER SE PRO
Re: Guitars ; and now for something Completely Moronic
 Originally Posted by AU24K
Ain't it great to know that major crime has diminished to the point that this is how law enforcement agencies spend their day?
And our money?
Scott
Yea I guess they Figure Guitar Manufacturers
& Musicians Rarely Shoot Back
discriminate out Spike TV and American Diggers !
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Sep 01, 2011, 08:44 PM
#20
Re: Guitars ; and now for something Completely Moronic
Cool, my guitar destroyed the rain forests. That's rock and roll, y'all.
This world is not my home.
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