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  1. #1
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    Cops these days? More like commandos!

    http://www.theatlantic.com/national/...police/248047/

    I remember laying on my couch last year watching TV. I can unfortunately hear the slightest sounds outside the window just above my couch, even leaves rustling along the pavement. What I didn't hear was about a dozen military-style SWAT cops silently passing by and then busting in the apartment next to mine. About needed to change my shorts after that ruckus! After things calmed down I looked outside and saw the whole squad drive off hanging onto the side of a souped-up armored police van. Felt like I was in Beirut! I was amazed at how a dozen or so people could skulk by right outside my window...and I didn't hear a peep.

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    Re: Cops these days? More like commandos!

    I suggest that you turn up your hearing aid
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    Re: Cops these days? More like commandos!

    Just think how you would have felt in that moment if you would have peeked out the window and saw them coming, and possibly to your place!
    "The beach is my new office."

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    Re: Cops these days? More like commandos!

    Just think how you would have felt in that moment if you would have peeked out the window and saw them coming, and possibly to your place!
    Even worse, if you were watching the show COPS and you noticed the house the swat team was sneaking towards was yours.
    Death is nothing, but to live defeated and inglorious is to die daily.
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    Re: Cops these days? More like commandos!

    We had a guy waving a pistol outside a bar here the other night. He made the mistake of waving it towards the responding (3) officers and they put him down. Three cops fired 10 rounds. Judge, jury & executioners..........

    Diggem'

    Yup. The end of a way of life. Too bad. It's a good way. Wagons forward! Yo!

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    Re: Cops these days? More like commandos!

    Quote Originally Posted by Diggemall
    Three cops fired 10 rounds. Judge, jury & executioners..........

    Diggem'

    Would you rather one of them get shot before they are allowed to shoot?

    Have you ever had a loaded weapon pointed at you at your work?

    Only 10 rounds? Seems one or two of them was a round or so short. For my quarterly qualification, I'm required to engage a number of targets at varying ranges, from the holster, and fire 4 rounds in 3 seconds. Then the targets disappears. Try it sometime.

    They were doing their job. And not they way they would have preferred to, I assure you.

  7. #7
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    Re: Cops these days? More like commandos!

    Cops have to be like commandos nowadays as the bad guys are getting to be more and more like terrorists .

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    Jul 2005
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    Re: Cops these days? More like commandos!

    Welcome to the peoples republic of Amerika. Our nations police think that they are above constitutional law. The people of the United States did a deal with the devil when we allowed the passage of the Patriot Act. Once civil liberties are surrendered they are impossible to regain!
    Just because it did not work does not mean it was not a good plan!

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    Re: Cops these days? More like commandos!

    Cops gotta do what they gotta do sometimes. I think it reflects on their skill that they were able to sneak up un-announced. That takes training and co-operation. If I had to go arrest a violent armed offender, I would be as sneaky as I could, then pounce before they could gather their wits and arm themselves. Failure to do so may result in death and endangerment to self and innocent bystanders. This is in the case you described of the swat team sneaking by.

    The cases described in your link have no excuse.
    God Bless!

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    Re: Cops these days? More like commandos!

    I respect a few cops and think the new breed are of storm trooper mentality. Look at the latest "park cleaning" of protesters. What was it, something like 300 arrested, their equipment trashed. They were peaceful protesters. A right granted by the constitution. They had permits to camp there. They pulled the permits and told them to get out of the park by sundown. They were only voicing their opinion of what is wrong with this country. I see a lot of people on here also voicing their opinion of this countries problems too. What next, the internet police?? Frank

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    Re: Cops these days? More like commandos!

    Don't wave your gun at the cops. ramjet...3 cops, six rounds. One to the head, one to the torso. That does it. But in real life you will empty that clip and call for more ammo. In my training we had wheel guns and had to draw and fire 6, reload and fire 6 more, then holster in less than 15 seconds, and put all in the B-52 target black. Did it in 12, no speed loader. And you're right about the outcome. It ain't like the movies. A shooting situation happens so quick you ain't got time to be scared or think it over. At the time it ain't nothin but one big adrenaline rush, and you're like, hey, I'm OK, I did it, I'm bad, dude, I'm nationwide! However, it will come back to you at the damndest times, and you will think, what could I have done different, how could I have somehow changed that, did I handle that right? Lot of questions that can't be answered, but it gets down to you're alive, innocent civilians are alive, because the offender is dead. And you did it, and that's how I think of it. Like Frankn, I have no use or respect for the new rookie cops, but I bite my tongue and think 'Once upon a time, that was me' and know they will get better with time and experience. As to that occupy thing, they ain't much of a threat. They probably need to keep the place a little cleaner. But, one riot, one ranger.
    This world is not my home.

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    Re: Cops these days? More like commandos!

    Quote Originally Posted by Frankn
    I respect a few cops and think the new breed are of storm trooper mentality. Look at the latest "park cleaning" of protesters. What was it, something like 300 arrested, their equipment trashed. They were peaceful protesters. A right granted by the constitution. They had permits to camp there. They pulled the permits and told them to get out of the park by sundown. They were only voicing their opinion of what is wrong with this country. I see a lot of people on here also voicing their opinion of this countries problems too. What next, the internet police?? Frank
    Agreed! Whether you believe in their cause or not. Pure f'ing gestapo style justice! I hate what this country is becoming.
    As far as cops go, they are about 50-50 in my book. Some are decent and the other half are pansy azz sissies that shouldn't even be wearing a badge and the only reason they are is because they were teased and bullied as children and this is their form of retribution and only means of being in a position of power.
    DOWN WITH AMERICAN DIGGERS, SAY NO TO SPIKE TV! THEY MAKE ALL OF US LOOK BAD!

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    Re: Cops these days? More like commandos!

    Quote Originally Posted by Diggemall
    We had a guy waving a pistol outside a bar here the other night. He made the mistake of waving it towards the responding (3) officers and they put him down. Three cops fired 10 rounds. Judge, jury & executioners..........

    Diggem'

    Isn't that called "police-assisted suicide"?

    Others here mention gestapos. I'm writing up stories my dad wrote from his WWII experiences right now. Helped to liberate at least one concentration camp plus Moosburg, the Allied POW camp in Germany.

    Dad was a sharpshooter and .50 caliber machine gunner. Made it a point of getting his yearly deer with 1 shot. A point of honor. He considered a fair fight a .308 at 1,000 yards. If it took him 2 shots to get a deer he was in a funk the rest of the day. Three cops and 10 rounds? I know what dad would say: incompetent AND dangerous to themselves and others.

    One of the stories dad likes to tell is diving into a foxhole one day to escape a mortor shelling. A German soldier was occupying the foxhole. Both threw up their hands in surrender. Dad's had a pistol in it. He brought the hand down quick and survived to tell about it.

  14. #14
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    Re: Cops these days? More like commandos!

    Every year lots of cops die simply responding to calls for help. There's a website that covers this if interested. Back years ago the neighbor kid wanted to be a cop and finally made the city force. He lasted a year or so and was shot in the chest with a 30-06 rifle. It was a routine traffic stop and the car was full of drug dealers.

    Most people today have no idea how dangerous it is out there. Every year bodies are found in our county and I understand that some are never identified. I know these things because of connections in law enforcement. Just the other night some guys attacked some girls and held one of them with a knife to her throat. And this was in a very small town near where my daughter lives. One of those little "Mayberry" type places. In that same area they recently solved an old crime. Back ca. 20 years ago some hunters killed a guy for his deer. They took his body and ground it up. Finally a detective found small pieces of human bone on one suspect's property and a confession was obtained.

    None of these things are unusual and happen all over this country every day.

    There are bad cops and any officer will admit this. But these types are rare. Most get eliminated rather quickly.

    "Everything is an anomaly" Michigan Badger

 

 

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