HIGH SCHOOL -- 1957 vs. 2011

[spartacus53]

It may take a little while to read, it's a shame that's it's so true too... I just wonder what the comparison will look like in just another 25 years down the road.


Scenario 1:

Jack goes duck hunting before school and then pulls into the school parking lot with his shotgun in his truck's gun rack.

1957 - Vice Principal comes over, looks at Jack's shotgun, goes to his car and gets his shotgun to show Jack.

2010 - School goes into lock down, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers.

Scenario 2:

Johnny and Mark get into a fist fight after school.

1957 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies.

2010 - Police called and SWAT team arrives -- they arrest both Johnny and Mark. They are both charged with assault and both expelled even though Johnny started it.

Scenario 3:

Jeffrey will not be still in class, he disrupts other students.

1957 - Jeffrey sent to the Principal's office and given a good paddling by the Principal. He then returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class again.

2010 - Jeffrey is given huge doses of Ritalin. He becomes a zombie. He is then tested for ADD. The family gets extra money (SSI) from the government because Jeffrey has a disability.

Scenario 4:

Billy breaks a window in his neighbour's car and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt.

1957 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college and becomes a successful businessman.

2010 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse, Billy is removed to foster care and joins a gang. The state psychologist is told by Billy's sister that she remembers being abused herself and their dad goes to prison. Billy's mom has an affair with the psychologist.

Scenario 5:

Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school.

1957 - Mark shares his aspirin with the Principal out on the smoking dock.

2010 - The police are called and Mark is expelled from school for drug violations. His car is then searched for drugs and weapons.

Scenario 6:

Pedro fails high school English.

1957 - Pedro goes to summer school, passes English and goes to college.

2010 - Pedro's cause is taken up by state. Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that teaching English as a requirement for graduation is racist. ACLU files class action lawsuit against the state school system and Pedro's English teacher. English is then banned from core curriculum. Pedro is given his diploma anyway but ends up mowing lawns for a living because he cannot speak English.

Scenario 7:

Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from the Fourth of July, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle and blows up a red ant bed.

1957 - Ants die.

2010 - ATF, Homeland Security and the FBI are all called. Johnny is charged with domestic terrorism. The FBI investigates his parents - and all siblings are removed from their home and all computers are confiscated. Johnny's dad is placed on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again.

Scenario 8:

Johnny falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee. He is found crying by his teacher, Mary. Mary hugs him to comfort him.

1957 – In a short time, Johnny feels better and goes on playing.

2010 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces 3 years in State Prison. Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy.

[bigscoop]

Man....you sure have those changes down pat. I did some things when I was young that had the whole neighborhood cheering when dad took that belt to my butt. Odd, I never did end up in jail or any real trouble. I didn't like it at the time, but I'm sure glad he was always there to lay down a serious learning curve to my "growing up" when it was called for.

In 1957 There was always one parent home during the day to raise us and keep us in line.
1n 1957 mutual consideration and respect was the general norm, not the exception.
In 1957 there were a lot less lawyers and a lot less special interest groups with money.
etc. etc., etc..........

Another 25 years?

[DigginThePast]

Spart - I had no idea you are as old as you are.....Sir... Why were so many of your classmates such ruffians?

[bigscoop]

Spart - I had no idea you are as old as you are.....Sir... Why were so many of your classmates such ruffians?

Good question. Can't wait to hear his reply!

[packerbacker]

Then Mary gets released because the judge thinks she is too good looking for prison.

[olroy70]

AND, the class of '57 had a dream!!!!!!!!

Like the statler bros, mine didnt turn out quite the way I expected, either. But, GOOD!

[spartacus53]

Spart - I had no idea you are as old as you are.....Sir... Why were so many of your classmates such ruffians?

I'm not that old yet, but these scenarios pretty much held up in NYC until the very early 70's

Ruffians Mark went on to be Valedictorian These were the better behaved kids in school, you have to remember I went to reform school... Then again coming from one of the worst neighborhoods in The South Bronx, I think we turned out OK

After reading this over again, I'll have to admit I never witnessed scenario #1 in my school, we did however have a plethora of other deadly weapons stroll through those doors.. In JHS in the early 60's we had on student killed when he was shot by a bow and arrow... It's no wonder the South Bronx was known as Fort Apache

[packerbacker]

I attended high school in downtown Manhattan, West 66th St. I was "Bussed" from West 137th St., stayed on the subway at West 110th St where all the rest of the white kids got off and I continued on to 66th. That was Commerce High, nearly all black but they sent me there to even things out. I was only confronted once and never again after that. You didn't need your own pot, you could just get a contact high from all the smoke in the bathrooms. Teachers knew better than to enter. They had NYC police in the cafeteria during lunch to break up fights. This was in 63 and 64. Probably got worse after I left.

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Sigh, back in 1895 things were a bit different. The worst case delinquent that I knew, was the one that put a bit of a broken mirror in the shoe lace area of his shoe and attempted to scoot it under the different gals desks in the class. He got away with it until the giggling alerted the Teacher who promptly showed graphically why it was not considered a good idea. I think that it was a week between his father and the teacher before he could sit down comfortably.

Of course in those days the Montgomery Wards and Sears catalogues were an important accessory to a non existant sex education class - now.a-days?

Still ole Teddy and I did discuss the lovely Cuban waitress's physiological configurations while working on a stiff drink in the little cantina at the bottom., just before San Juan Hill !

Don Jose de La Mancha

[Michigan Badger]

Your post is a masterpiece. It's 100% correct. I know because of my current job and I lived in those times and recall guys bringing their shotguns and rifles to school to either work on them or show them off. It was common to see guys sitting in class with an open pocket knife. In fact that's how some sharpened their pencils. Back in the late 50's girls were respected as queens. If some guy talked rudely to some girl the other guys may kick his butt after school. Today many girls burp, fart, cuss, and smell worse than the lowest boys. Thus the guys look at them as meat and divorce is the norm today. Most boys today don't really know who they are or where they're going. They have almost no sense of male identity. They get married (most just shack up) to have their new mommy run their lives for them. As the home goes, so goes the country.

The bulk of Americans dislike how things are today but they have no idea how to change things. When some smooth tongued politician comes along and promises change without any self-sacrifice they swallow his pitch hook, line, and sinker.

All the other countries know America is going down. We are obese, lazy, undisciplined, self-centered, arrogant, greedy, unfaithful, and addicted to all manner of drugs. America is dying not only emotionally but also physically.

This situation is why the super wealthy are setting things in line for the "New World Order." Which is basically slavery for the masses. They feel this is the only hope to preserve this country, and of course, their assets.

We won't be around 100 years from today but if we could look ahead we'd be shocked at the changes.

[Frankn]

Here's the scoop. I graduated in '57 in Balto. City from the best technical / engineering high school in the state. It was deep in tradition. You wore a white dress shirt khakis and a tie, not because you had to but because you wanted to. This fits in with Sparts #1. I was president of the sportsman's club.It was routine to bring in shotguns and rifles to show the other members at meetings I never saw any problems come out of this. FAST FORWARD to about '75. Now in Harford Co. MD, north of Baltimore. A boy drove his pickup to school after hunting. His shotgun was locked in the gun rack. A teacher calls the police, the boy is arrested and expelled from school in his senior year. and his gun was taken. This is a sad, but true post of how our values have changed. Frank

[bigscoop]

When I was in the 8th grade, would have been in 72-73, I finished & completed one of those muzzleloader kits as my shop class project. We also had a hunting and fishing club that met once a week at the school, on Saturday morning I believe, and I don't ever recall hearing the word "kill" in these meetings, it was always harvest or take. By the time I graduated in 77, a teacher would have been risking his job & career for even thinking about allowing these types of activities to go on and it would probably have been taught with a Rambo type "blow his head clear off" mentality.

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

HMMMM iN MY HIGH SCHOOL WE EVEN HAD --- HORRORS--- A SHOOTING RANGE IN THE BASEMENT AND PRACTICED DAILY. IT PAID OFF IN WW-2.

DON JOSE DE LA MANCHA

[spartacus53]

HMMMM iN MY HIGH SCHOOL WE EVEN HAD --- HORRORS--- A SHOOTING RANGE IN THE BASEMENT AND PRACTICED DAILY. IT PAID OFF IN WW-2.

DON JOSE DE LA MANCHA

In the Bronx we didn't have the luxury of a shooting range in the school, so the kids would just use the streets