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    The fact that they stand out makes them easier to spot. Start making them dress like everyone else and they become much harder to spot. One provides for an increase in community eye sores. The later provides it's own set of very difficult problems. Might be that we are better off with them out in the open.
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    I respect everyone's opinion, but I personally still support the law... You can call it indecent exposure.....A public
    nuisance, there are laws against playing your music too loud..........
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    I understand both sides. I have problems with laws against certain types of dress though. Personally, when I see guys with baggy pants, I cringe. I also cringe when I see a chubby girl in a half shirt, or a flat bill cap on sideways with 10 lbs of gold chains, or a pair of spandex on a cyclist so tight you can see the frank and beans. But, don't you think those same people look at me in my cowboy hat, boots, wranglers and snap down shirt and think ""what a chump!" What movie did he just step out of? Is the rodeo in town? Where did you park your horse?"" The thing is, that is exactly the response I want. If you don't like me or the way i dress, feel free to look the other way, or better yet, go the other way. Same from their perspective. It's called freedom and individuality and that is what this country was founded on. Start taking that away and things get real bad, real quick.
    Maybe after all we should start raising our children with morals and self worth instead of letting their friends do the job for us. Youngsters need to know that blood is always thicker than water. Friends come and go, but your family will always remember what a fool you looked like when you were younger.
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    Frankn/arapahoscout, the problem is some don't see it this way, losing personal freedom...

    Next we will find morbidly obese people and those that are gaunt more offensive and pass additional laws that should also be enforced.. Yeah, I'll support that one since I lost a good deal of weight, but not gaunt

    Again, there are more important issues than sagging, baggy pants out there

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    @ Spart . . . what about my freedom to be with my wife and our 16 year old daughter without them having to be confronted by this?
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    Chadeaux, is looking the other way too difficult for you, or you can lock yourself up in your house. That way you'll have all the personal freedom you need

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    Chadeaux, Are you saying they don't have a right to be there dressed as they want, only you ,your wife and 16 year old have that right? Why don't you exercise your freedom of expression by laughing at them?

    Laws are to protect us from harm not protect our personal preference. There are to many laws out there now. Look at our tax laws. so many special deductions and exemptions that no one knows for sure what is legal. How about something simple like a tax law that states " you make {X} # of dollars, you pay 15% tax." It could be that simple. Frank
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankn View Post
    Chadeaux, Are you saying they don't have a right to be there dressed as they want, only you ,your wife and 16 year old have that right? Why don't you exercise your freedom of expression by laughing at them?

    Laws are to protect us from harm not protect our personal preference. There are to many laws out there now. Look at our tax laws. so many special deductions and exemptions that no one knows for sure what is legal. How about something simple like a tax law that states " you make {X} # of dollars, you pay 15% tax." It could be that simple. Frank
    Frankn: Yes, exactly. Just as I don't think pictures of child porn should be on t-shirts, nor do I believe that photos of persons engaged in sex should be allowed on t-shirts.

    Even though these items are often cited as being free speech, they are destructive to a civilized society.

    Laws are also there to protect the foolish. They need to enforce those laws so they don't have to enforce the laws against self-defense on me.

    Laugh at those young hoodlums? That sometimes is legally defined as "inciting" them to violence. I work in the court system, and believe me, there is very little justice anymore. It's often called "bullying" as well by the court. Unfortunately for those young men, when they come after me (and they will . . . they are usually nothing more than wild animals without trainers), I would be forced to put an end to their behavior --- permanently.

    No, those laws may actually be protecting the jackasses who can't figure out how to dress themselves, or their mommies are too lazy to teach them.
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    this law is unconstitutional and absolutely ridiculous.

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    If they attach it to an indecent exposure ordinance it could have a chance of with standing court challenges since cities can set their own laws on what they consider "indecent exposure"....

    Quote Originally Posted by spartacus53 View Post
    Chadeaux, is looking the other way too difficult for you , or you can lock yourself up in your house. That way you'll have all the personal freedom you need


    Spart using your reasoning why can’t I walk naked down the street and everyone else just look away………

    I fully understand how some feel it is an attack on our freedoms, but this is one small freedom I am more than willing to see attacked. Heck, I will help attack it… If it went to a county vote I would vote in favor… Some may not be exposed to it as much as others, here in Orlando it is a constant barage everywhere I go….

    Heck it is against the law for to grow a single pot plant in my home, how is that hurting anyone…….?
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    Personally I find old people in wearing socks with shorts and fat people without shirts and people with excessive body hair to be obscene. One persons style is another persons obscenity!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0121stockpicker View Post
    Personally I find old people in wearing socks with shorts and fat people without shirts and people with excessive body hair to be obscene. One persons style is another persons obscenity!
    I agree men should have to cover their chests at all times,
    or women should be allowed to roam the streets & work Topless.
    Why are Women considered Obscene while men aren't

    yes there are cases where either one would make me cringe, but seriously.

    I know I wouldn't want to see some guy bend over & let old one eye peak out,
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    I read somewhere that the low slung crack exposing britches started in prisons, it was a way of communicating that you were game for sex with other prisoners....nge
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    Quote Originally Posted by NGE
    I read somewhere that the low slung crack exposing britches started in prisons, it was a way of communicating that you were game for sex with other prisoners....nge
    Now that is a rumor worth spreading around! Might get some people to think twice instead of making unnecessary laws.
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