The Psy-Ops War on Preppers: This Has Become a Two-For-the-Price-of-One Crisis

[Red James Cash]

The Psy-Ops War on Preppers: This Has Become a Two-For-the-Price-of-One Crisis

Daisy Luther
The Organic Prepper
December 18, 2012

First of all, where is the headquarters of this “Doomsday Preppers Movement” I’ve been reading about? And where can I sign up? I didn’t realize there was an organized movement, one deserving of capital letters. Who is the leader of this “movement”? I’d like to meet him (or her) immediately!

The propaganda machine is not only going after guns in the wake of the terrible tragedy at Sandy Hook Elementary School – this has become a two-for-the-price-of-one crisis, allowing the government and media to yet again, demonize preppers.

Psychological Warfare: Various techniques are used, by any set of groups, and aimed to influence a target audience’s value systems, belief systems, emotions, motives, reasoning, or behavior. It is used to induce confessions or reinforce attitudes and behaviors favorable to the originator’s objectives, and are sometimes combined with black operations or false flag tactics. Target audiences can be governments, organizations, groups, and individuals.

Yesterday the mainstream media began churning out articles about Nancy Lanza, the mother of the shooter, Adam Lanza. When you read the following quotes, ask yourself: “How many of these comments could describe ME?”

A few descriptive quotes:

Nancy was a member of the Doomsday Preppers movement, which believes people should prepare for end of the world. (Riehl World View)
According to reports, Nancy Lanza was a so-called ‘prepper’, a part of the survivalist movement which urges individuals to prepare for the breakdown of society by training with weapons and hoarding food and other supplies. ( The UK Independent)
Reports are starting to emerge of the troubled young man and his unusual upbringing. (Yahoo)
Dan Holmes, owner of a landscaping firm who worked on the family’s home, said she was an avid gun collector: ‘She told me she would go target shooting with her kids.’ (UK Daily Mail)
Marsha Lanza described Nancy as ‘self-reliant’.( The UK Independent)
He was reportedly homeschooled by his mother, a school principal and gun enthusiast, who wasn’t satisfied with the education her son was receiving.. (Yahoo)
As America searches for answers, investigators are turning towards Nancy Lanza’s supposed identification as a survivalist. (Yahoo)
Her former sister-in-law Marsha said she had turned her home ‘into a fortress’. (UK Daily Mail)
Mother of Sandy Hook school gunman Adam Lanza was a ‘prepper’ survivalist preparing for economic and social collapse, say reports. ( The UK Independent)
Mrs Lanza is thought to have trained her sons, Adam and Ryan to shoot, even taking them to local ranges. ( The UK Independent)
‘Nancy had a survivalist philosophy which is why she was stockpiling guns. She had them for defense. She was stockpiling food. She grew up on a farm in New Hampshire. She was skilled with guns. We talked about preppers and preparing for the economy collapsing.’ (UK Daily Mail)

Gee…they say this stuff like it’s a BAD thing.

Let’s see.

Stockpiles (or hoards) food….check.
Takes children target shooting….check.
Preparing for economic and/or social collapse….check.
Serious about home defense….check.
Home is well-fortified against criminals….check.
Skilled with weapons….check.
Survivalist philosophy….check.
Self-reliant….check.
Believes that we are capable of educating our children at home….check.

Nancy Lanza’s description could apply to nearly any prepper. Preppers have been cast in an ugly light for quite some time. We are painted as camo-clad survivalists, clenching a knife in our teeth while unloading an automatic weapon into some real or imagined threat. After our Rambo-esque rampage, we will crouch in the forest by a campfire, shoveling down an MRE while glaring suspiciously into the dark, a large Katana hunting knife close at hand with which to dispatch the next enemy.

The assault on preppers through the media is becoming more and more focused. Let’s look at some recent examples.

We were described last month by emergency manager Valerie Lucus-MacEwen as “socially selfish” – even though the existence of prepared people makes her supplies go further to help the unprepared. In an editorial meant for other emergency managers, Ms. Lucus-MacEwen arrogantly asserted, “You might wonder why someone like me, who has been in the business of encouraging disaster preparedness for a very long time, is so critical of people who are doing just that. It’s because they are being socially selfish – preparing themselves and the hell with everyone else. Instead of spending time and energy making changes that would benefit the larger community, in their very narrow focus of loyalty they are more concerned about themselves.”

The National Geographic program Doomsday Preppers also has had a lot to do with the demonization of preppers – it’s a full-court press propaganda attack against preppers. The program finds the most outrageous examples of preparedness possible and edits to make them look foolish. An article on the American Preppers Network explains the modus operandi:

The show severely skews Preppers in an effort that can be summed up as “making good television”. This is evident not only through viewing the show itself, but through the format they have built the show around. Some highlights of that format include:

Featuring one Prepper for 15 minutes only, ensuring that you don’t get too comfortable with them or learn very much about them
Requiring each guest to pigeon-hole themselves into one thing they are preparing for – almost always a “doomsday” scenario
Creating conflict and drama via their “experts” who review the segment and then condemn or condone what the Prepper has done – all within the context of the “one thing” they’re preparing for

Do you really believe that each of the families on that show only focus on one particular scenario? No – they are portrayed in a way to marginalize the philosophy of preparedness. We, as preppers, are a threat to the powers that be.

One participant on the show, David Sarti, learned that his appearance could have serious ramifications. Mr. Sarti “took one for the team” when, only days after the program aired, however, David Sarti was declared “mentally incompetent”….and his guns were seized. All of them. Mr. Sarti, who has no criminal record, is no longer allowed to own guns. He tells his story here.

Apparently, the constitution no longer applies to those who are categorized as preppers.

The accusation of insanity came after he went to see his cardiologist for some chest pains and shortness of breath. So far, it sounds sane and rational to me. The cardiologist, Dr. Andre C. Olivier, whose name and contact information I am delighted to publish, had Mr. Sarti held at the hospital for psychiatric evaluation and broke doctor patient confidentiality by contacting the authorities.

Then it really went to hell on a greased slide. Mr. Sarti, because of his stay in the psychiatric unit, was then declared “mentally incompetent”. His very large collection of guns was then stolen removed from his possession. He is no longer allowed to own weapons.

Earlier this month, Maryland resident Terry Porter had his home descended upon by 150 armed federal agents and local police officers. The raid also included helicopters, SWAT crews, armored vehicles and excavation equipment.

His crimes? He was known as a prepper, he was unhappy with the reelection of Barack Obama, and he owned guns. He “openly admitted being a prepper.”

So, why all the vilification? Why are preppers the new “boogeymen”? Why are we being pigeonholed as people who homeschool our kids and turn them into mass murderers of elementary school students?

Simple…because we don’t NEED help. We do not require the assistance of the government. We don’t need to line up for 5 hours to wait for a paltry bottle of water and an MRE after a hurricane strikes. We don’t call 911 and hide in a closet waiting for the police to arrive.

Preppers threaten the very existence of all of the social safety nets that are set up. We can’t be easily manipulated by the offer of a free flu shot and a grocery store gift card in exchange for our weapons. We think critically and don’t automatically accept the programming of the mainstream media, whose job it is to provide people with the opinions that they should hold. We don’t shovel in the HFCS-laden genetically modified crap, otherwise known as “food”, killing our brain cells and dumbing us down into cattle to be easily led to slaughter.

We are the last bastion of independent self-reliant thinkers. And the powers that be are very afraid of those who think for themselves, rather than regurgitating the media-presented party line.

I don’t know why Adam Lanza went on a rampage and killed 26 people last week. But I do know that it wasn’t because his mother was a homeschooling prepper who stored up food and taught him to fire a gun at a paper target.

 

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[Rebel - KGC]

So, you ARE a "prepper"...

 

[Red James Cash]

Thats a secret

 

[SpiritRelic]

The study of survival techniques is something all people should do.This is no joke.There very well could be a collapse of modern society as we know it very easily.And prepping is a big business right now.Food insurance,dry food storage,and such.The study of self reliance and sufficiency is no joke.There will be a day for these skills.Am i talking crazy now? Wow,i better stop.

 

[G.I.B.]

When you have a multitude of 24 hour news organizations they all need to have the latest, most important, you have to watch now, don't stop looking, it's so very very very important---- if you don't keep watching and listening you are, well- a looser in the informed most up to date society there is.

Point 1. When there isn't news, make some up via embellishment of a few obscure odds and ends.

Point 2. Last year about this time I went sailing for four months. I turned off the T.V. and left for a while. When I got back I turned the T.V. back on. I swear- nothing had changed. It was the same dribble, the same loud mouths spouting nonsense.

Point 3. Turn off the T.V. Go metal detecting, sailing, hiking, pumice the dead skin off your big toe... anything else. (stay tuned into TN though)

Point 4. I'm turning off the computer now I had a news flash pop up....

 

[squiggy]

The Psy-Ops War on Preppers: This Has Become a Two-For-the-Price-of-One Crisis

Daisy Luther
The Organic Prepper
December 18, 2012

First of all, where is the headquarters of this &#147oomsday Preppers Movement” I’ve been reading about? And where can I sign up? I didn’t realize there was an organized movement, one deserving of capital letters. Who is the leader of this “movement”? I’d like to meet him (or her) immediately!

The propaganda machine is not only going after guns in the wake of the terrible tragedy at Sandy Hook Elementary School – this has become a two-for-the-price-of-one crisis, allowing the government and media to yet again, demonize preppers.

Psychological Warfare: Various techniques are used, by any set of groups, and aimed to influence a target audience’s value systems, belief systems, emotions, motives, reasoning, or behavior. It is used to induce confessions or reinforce attitudes and behaviors favorable to the originator’s objectives, and are sometimes combined with black operations or false flag tactics. Target audiences can be governments, organizations, groups, and individuals.

Yesterday the mainstream media began churning out articles about Nancy Lanza, the mother of the shooter, Adam Lanza. When you read the following quotes, ask yourself: “How many of these comments could describe ME?”

A few descriptive quotes:

Nancy was a member of the Doomsday Preppers movement, which believes people should prepare for end of the world. (Riehl World View)
According to reports, Nancy Lanza was a so-called ‘prepper’, a part of the survivalist movement which urges individuals to prepare for the breakdown of society by training with weapons and hoarding food and other supplies. ( The UK Independent)
Reports are starting to emerge of the troubled young man and his unusual upbringing. (Yahoo)
Dan Holmes, owner of a landscaping firm who worked on the family’s home, said she was an avid gun collector: ‘She told me she would go target shooting with her kids.’ (UK Daily Mail)
Marsha Lanza described Nancy as ‘self-reliant’.( The UK Independent)
He was reportedly homeschooled by his mother, a school principal and gun enthusiast, who wasn’t satisfied with the education her son was receiving.. (Yahoo)
As America searches for answers, investigators are turning towards Nancy Lanza’s supposed identification as a survivalist. (Yahoo)
Her former sister-in-law Marsha said she had turned her home ‘into a fortress’. (UK Daily Mail)
Mother of Sandy Hook school gunman Adam Lanza was a ‘prepper’ survivalist preparing for economic and social collapse, say reports. ( The UK Independent)
Mrs Lanza is thought to have trained her sons, Adam and Ryan to shoot, even taking them to local ranges. ( The UK Independent)
‘Nancy had a survivalist philosophy which is why she was stockpiling guns. She had them for defense. She was stockpiling food. She grew up on a farm in New Hampshire. She was skilled with guns. We talked about preppers and preparing for the economy collapsing.’ (UK Daily Mail)

Gee…they say this stuff like it’s a BAD thing.

Let’s see.

Stockpiles (or hoards) food….check.
Takes children target shooting….check.
Preparing for economic and/or social collapse….check.
Serious about home defense….check.
Home is well-fortified against criminals….check.
Skilled with weapons….check.
Survivalist philosophy….check.
Self-reliant….check.
Believes that we are capable of educating our children at home….check.

Nancy Lanza’s description could apply to nearly any prepper. Preppers have been cast in an ugly light for quite some time. We are painted as camo-clad survivalists, clenching a knife in our teeth while unloading an automatic weapon into some real or imagined threat. After our Rambo-esque rampage, we will crouch in the forest by a campfire, shoveling down an MRE while glaring suspiciously into the dark, a large Katana hunting knife close at hand with which to dispatch the next enemy.

The assault on preppers through the media is becoming more and more focused. Let’s look at some recent examples.

We were described last month by emergency manager Valerie Lucus-MacEwen as “socially selfish” – even though the existence of prepared people makes her supplies go further to help the unprepared. In an editorial meant for other emergency managers, Ms. Lucus-MacEwen arrogantly asserted, “You might wonder why someone like me, who has been in the business of encouraging disaster preparedness for a very long time, is so critical of people who are doing just that. It’s because they are being socially selfish – preparing themselves and the hell with everyone else. Instead of spending time and energy making changes that would benefit the larger community, in their very narrow focus of loyalty they are more concerned about themselves.”

The National Geographic program Doomsday Preppers also has had a lot to do with the demonization of preppers – it’s a full-court press propaganda attack against preppers. The program finds the most outrageous examples of preparedness possible and edits to make them look foolish. An article on the American Preppers Network explains the modus operandi:

The show severely skews Preppers in an effort that can be summed up as “making good television”. This is evident not only through viewing the show itself, but through the format they have built the show around. Some highlights of that format include:

Featuring one Prepper for 15 minutes only, ensuring that you don’t get too comfortable with them or learn very much about them
Requiring each guest to pigeon-hole themselves into one thing they are preparing for – almost always a “doomsday” scenario
Creating conflict and drama via their “experts” who review the segment and then condemn or condone what the Prepper has done – all within the context of the “one thing” they’re preparing for

Do you really believe that each of the families on that show only focus on one particular scenario? No – they are portrayed in a way to marginalize the philosophy of preparedness. We, as preppers, are a threat to the powers that be.

One participant on the show, David Sarti, learned that his appearance could have serious ramifications. Mr. Sarti “took one for the team” when, only days after the program aired, however, David Sarti was declared “mentally incompetent”….and his guns were seized. All of them. Mr. Sarti, who has no criminal record, is no longer allowed to own guns. He tells his story here.

Apparently, the constitution no longer applies to those who are categorized as preppers.

The accusation of insanity came after he went to see his cardiologist for some chest pains and shortness of breath. So far, it sounds sane and rational to me. The cardiologist, Dr. Andre C. Olivier, whose name and contact information I am delighted to publish, had Mr. Sarti held at the hospital for psychiatric evaluation and broke doctor patient confidentiality by contacting the authorities.

Then it really went to hell on a greased slide. Mr. Sarti, because of his stay in the psychiatric unit, was then declared “mentally incompetent”. His very large collection of guns was then stolen removed from his possession. He is no longer allowed to own weapons.

Earlier this month, Maryland resident Terry Porter had his home descended upon by 150 armed federal agents and local police officers. The raid also included helicopters, SWAT crews, armored vehicles and excavation equipment.

His crimes? He was known as a prepper, he was unhappy with the reelection of Barack Obama, and he owned guns. He “openly admitted being a prepper.”

So, why all the vilification? Why are preppers the new “boogeymen”? Why are we being pigeonholed as people who homeschool our kids and turn them into mass murderers of elementary school students?

Simple…because we don’t NEED help. We do not require the assistance of the government. We don’t need to line up for 5 hours to wait for a paltry bottle of water and an MRE after a hurricane strikes. We don’t call 911 and hide in a closet waiting for the police to arrive.

Preppers threaten the very existence of all of the social safety nets that are set up. We can’t be easily manipulated by the offer of a free flu shot and a grocery store gift card in exchange for our weapons. We think critically and don’t automatically accept the programming of the mainstream media, whose job it is to provide people with the opinions that they should hold. We don’t shovel in the HFCS-laden genetically modified crap, otherwise known as “food”, killing our brain cells and dumbing us down into cattle to be easily led to slaughter.

We are the last bastion of independent self-reliant thinkers. And the powers that be are very afraid of those who think for themselves, rather than regurgitating the media-presented party line.
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I don’t know why Adam Lanza went on a rampage and killed 26 people last week. But I do know that it wasn’t because his mother was a homeschooling prepper who stored up food and taught him to fire a gun at a paper target.

I live in a remote area of California off the grid...That is it..YOU DO NOT take a kid who has mental problems and teach them to use guns..Duh! This woman was a paranoid individual who spent several nights a week in the local pub..

 

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The Psy-Ops War on Preppers: This Has Become a Two-For-the-Price-of-One Crisis

Daisy Luther
The Organic Prepper
December 18, 2012

First of all, where is the headquarters of this &#147oomsday Preppers Movement” I’ve been reading about? And where can I sign up? I didn’t realize there was an organized movement, one deserving of capital letters. Who is the leader of this “movement”? I’d like to meet him (or her) immediately!

The propaganda machine is not only going after guns in the wake of the terrible tragedy at Sandy Hook Elementary School – this has become a two-for-the-price-of-one crisis, allowing the government and media to yet again, demonize preppers.

Psychological Warfare: Various techniques are used, by any set of groups, and aimed to influence a target audience’s value systems, belief systems, emotions, motives, reasoning, or behavior. It is used to induce confessions or reinforce attitudes and behaviors favorable to the originator’s objectives, and are sometimes combined with black operations or false flag tactics. Target audiences can be governments, organizations, groups, and individuals.

Yesterday the mainstream media began churning out articles about Nancy Lanza, the mother of the shooter, Adam Lanza. When you read the following quotes, ask yourself: “How many of these comments could describe ME?”

A few descriptive quotes:

Nancy was a member of the Doomsday Preppers movement, which believes people should prepare for end of the world. (Riehl World View)
According to reports, Nancy Lanza was a so-called ‘prepper’, a part of the survivalist movement which urges individuals to prepare for the breakdown of society by training with weapons and hoarding food and other supplies. ( The UK Independent)
Reports are starting to emerge of the troubled young man and his unusual upbringing. (Yahoo)
Dan Holmes, owner of a landscaping firm who worked on the family’s home, said she was an avid gun collector: ‘She told me she would go target shooting with her kids.’ (UK Daily Mail)
Marsha Lanza described Nancy as ‘self-reliant’.( The UK Independent)
He was reportedly homeschooled by his mother, a school principal and gun enthusiast, who wasn’t satisfied with the education her son was receiving.. (Yahoo)
As America searches for answers, investigators are turning towards Nancy Lanza’s supposed identification as a survivalist. (Yahoo)
Her former sister-in-law Marsha said she had turned her home ‘into a fortress’. (UK Daily Mail)
Mother of Sandy Hook school gunman Adam Lanza was a ‘prepper’ survivalist preparing for economic and social collapse, say reports. ( The UK Independent)
Mrs Lanza is thought to have trained her sons, Adam and Ryan to shoot, even taking them to local ranges. ( The UK Independent)
‘Nancy had a survivalist philosophy which is why she was stockpiling guns. She had them for defense. She was stockpiling food. She grew up on a farm in New Hampshire. She was skilled with guns. We talked about preppers and preparing for the economy collapsing.’ (UK Daily Mail)

Gee…they say this stuff like it’s a BAD thing.

Let’s see.

Stockpiles (or hoards) food….check.
Takes children target shooting….check.
Preparing for economic and/or social collapse….check.
Serious about home defense….check.
Home is well-fortified against criminals….check.
Skilled with weapons….check.
Survivalist philosophy….check.
Self-reliant….check.
Believes that we are capable of educating our children at home….check.

Nancy Lanza’s description could apply to nearly any prepper. Preppers have been cast in an ugly light for quite some time. We are painted as camo-clad survivalists, clenching a knife in our teeth while unloading an automatic weapon into some real or imagined threat. After our Rambo-esque rampage, we will crouch in the forest by a campfire, shoveling down an MRE while glaring suspiciously into the dark, a large Katana hunting knife close at hand with which to dispatch the next enemy.

The assault on preppers through the media is becoming more and more focused. Let’s look at some recent examples.

We were described last month by emergency manager Valerie Lucus-MacEwen as “socially selfish” – even though the existence of prepared people makes her supplies go further to help the unprepared. In an editorial meant for other emergency managers, Ms. Lucus-MacEwen arrogantly asserted, “You might wonder why someone like me, who has been in the business of encouraging disaster preparedness for a very long time, is so critical of people who are doing just that. It’s because they are being socially selfish – preparing themselves and the hell with everyone else. Instead of spending time and energy making changes that would benefit the larger community, in their very narrow focus of loyalty they are more concerned about themselves.”

The National Geographic program Doomsday Preppers also has had a lot to do with the demonization of preppers – it’s a full-court press propaganda attack against preppers. The program finds the most outrageous examples of preparedness possible and edits to make them look foolish. An article on the American Preppers Network explains the modus operandi:

The show severely skews Preppers in an effort that can be summed up as “making good television”. This is evident not only through viewing the show itself, but through the format they have built the show around. Some highlights of that format include:

Featuring one Prepper for 15 minutes only, ensuring that you don’t get too comfortable with them or learn very much about them
Requiring each guest to pigeon-hole themselves into one thing they are preparing for – almost always a “doomsday” scenario
Creating conflict and drama via their “experts” who review the segment and then condemn or condone what the Prepper has done – all within the context of the “one thing” they’re preparing for

Do you really believe that each of the families on that show only focus on one particular scenario? No – they are portrayed in a way to marginalize the philosophy of preparedness. We, as preppers, are a threat to the powers that be.

One participant on the show, David Sarti, learned that his appearance could have serious ramifications. Mr. Sarti “took one for the team” when, only days after the program aired, however, David Sarti was declared “mentally incompetent”….and his guns were seized. All of them. Mr. Sarti, who has no criminal record, is no longer allowed to own guns. He tells his story here.

Apparently, the constitution no longer applies to those who are categorized as preppers.

The accusation of insanity came after he went to see his cardiologist for some chest pains and shortness of breath. So far, it sounds sane and rational to me. The cardiologist, Dr. Andre C. Olivier, whose name and contact information I am delighted to publish, had Mr. Sarti held at the hospital for psychiatric evaluation and broke doctor patient confidentiality by contacting the authorities.

Then it really went to hell on a greased slide. Mr. Sarti, because of his stay in the psychiatric unit, was then declared “mentally incompetent”. His very large collection of guns was then stolen removed from his possession. He is no longer allowed to own weapons.

Earlier this month, Maryland resident Terry Porter had his home descended upon by 150 armed federal agents and local police officers. The raid also included helicopters, SWAT crews, armored vehicles and excavation equipment.

His crimes? He was known as a prepper, he was unhappy with the reelection of Barack Obama, and he owned guns. He “openly admitted being a prepper.”

So, why all the vilification? Why are preppers the new “boogeymen”? Why are we being pigeonholed as people who homeschool our kids and turn them into mass murderers of elementary school students?

Simple…because we don’t NEED help. We do not require the assistance of the government. We don’t need to line up for 5 hours to wait for a paltry bottle of water and an MRE after a hurricane strikes. We don’t call 911 and hide in a closet waiting for the police to arrive.

Preppers threaten the very existence of all of the social safety nets that are set up. We can’t be easily manipulated by the offer of a free flu shot and a grocery store gift card in exchange for our weapons. We think critically and don’t automatically accept the programming of the mainstream media, whose job it is to provide people with the opinions that they should hold. We don’t shovel in the HFCS-laden genetically modified crap, otherwise known as “food”, killing our brain cells and dumbing us down into cattle to be easily led to slaughter.

We are the last bastion of independent self-reliant thinkers. And the powers that be are very afraid of those who think for themselves, rather than regurgitating the media-presented party line.

I don’t know why Adam Lanza went on a rampage and killed 26 people last week. But I do know that it wasn’t because his mother was a homeschooling prepper who stored up food and taught him to fire a gun at a paper target.

Gee wonder why the kid was mental...hmmmm!

 

[SpiritRelic]

When you have a multitude of 24 hour news organizations they all need to have the latest, most important, you have to watch now, don't stop looking, it's so very very very important---- if you don't keep watching and listening you are, well- a looser in the informed most up to date society there is.

Point 1. When there isn't news, make some up via embellishment of a few obscure odds and ends.

Point 2. Last year about this time I went sailing for four months. I turned off the T.V. and left for a while. When I got back I turned the T.V. back on. I swear- nothing had changed. It was the same dribble, the same loud mouths spouting nonsense.

Point 3. Turn off the T.V. Go metal detecting, sailing, hiking, pumice the dead skin off your big toe... anything else. (stay tuned into TN though)

Point 4. I'm turning off the computer now I had a news flash pop up....

Good post! Right on.I have not owned a tv in eight months now and don't want one either.I have my phone and short wave radio.That is it.Nice and peaceful over this way. :O

 

[squiggy]

Good post! Right on.I have not owned a tv in eight months now and don't want one either.I have my phone and short wave radio.That is it.Nice and peaceful over this way. :O

I am with you..going outside in the rain to enjoy nature

 

[dieselram94]

Those who don't prepare will be at a severe disadvantage when you know what hits the fan.

 

[truckinbutch]

I am a 'socially selfish' old curmudgeon who feels no liberal compunction to share what my family and I have labored to preserve with some d##kweed that is hungry and cold because he/she/they didn't when they had the opportunity .
Nobody ever convinced me that life has to be 'fair'.

 

[Red James Cash]

Those who don't prepare will be at a severe disadvantage when you know what hits the fan.

And thats when the begging starts.Most likely the only thing any of them are going to see from me is this.

 

[Red James Cash]

But i will add,when and if something goes down and anybody in this website that I get along with is in trouble and down and out.My door is open for you no questions asked.I'm not completely cold hearted.But i will not feel sorry for blind idiots.TRUE AMERICANS have to stick together.

 

[dieselram94]

But i will add,when and if something goes down and anybody in this website that I get along with is in trouble and down and out.My door is open for you no questions asked.I'm not completely cold hearted.But i will not feel sorry for blind idiots.TRUE AMERICANS have to stick together.

Well said! Same here.

 

[paratrooper]

Myself and a group of vets that live nearby could be considered "preppers". The first goal is to have one years food stored. Done. Second (tandem goal) is to have enough ground "under plow" to maintain us before the food runs out. (Greenhouse+180 sq. ft. plus enclosed garden 4,000 sq. ft.) . Considering we were all "combat arms" we are used to protecting ourselves. We also know who is not taking the possibility of a major problem seriously and will remember them when their 2 day supply of Top Ramen noodles runs out. I will throw one thing out for your kind consideration. The biggest problem we seem to have is to decide on what to do about people with starving kids. Feed them all ? Feed just the kids and let the UNPREPARED adults go hungry? It's surely a question. I have a very simple approach to "prepping". If I'm right ... I will eat. If I'm wrong .... I will still eat. I think they call that ..... WIN WIN.

 

[Red James Cash]

Well said Paratrooper

 

[dieselram94]

War on preppers = demonize another group of citizens for the purpose of gaining more govt. Control. Obama's view of people that disagree with him is they must be made irrelevant, remember the beer summit after he said the police "acted stupidly". Just another angle to take the guns and your freedoms.

 

[CoilyGirl]

War on preppers = demonize another group of citizens for the purpose of gaining more govt. Control. Obama's view of people that disagree with him is they must be made irrelevant, remember the beer summit after he said the police "acted stupidly". Just another angle to take the guns and your freedoms.

I will weigh in here. I am in total agreement that the government would like nothing more than to have helpless individuals we're already well on our way there for sure.My husband and I have thought about buying a handgun for personal protection and about taking a series of classes to learn how to shoot 'em dead center but as for buying assault rifles,no never entered our minds at all. We've watched Doomsday Preppers a few times and y'all are right,they are all painted with a narrow brush and the scenes that make sense to the average Joe wanting to protect himself and his family are edited because common sense doesn't make for good T. V.

 

[Red James Cash]

My husband and I have thought about buying a handgun for personal protection

Shotgun for in home defense,hand gun for personal defense on the street.

 

[dieselram94]

I will weigh in here. I am in total agreement that the government would like nothing more than to have helpless individuals we're already well on our way there for sure.My husband and I have thought about buying a handgun for personal protection and about taking a series of classes to learn how to shoot 'em dead center but as for buying assault rifles,no never entered our minds at all. We've watched Doomsday Preppers a few times and y'all are right,they are all painted with a narrow brush and the scenes that make sense to the average Joe wanting to protect himself and his family are edited because common sense doesn't make for good T. V.

Lots of people are calling a semi auto rifle a assault weapon. Not true.