I GOT IT FIGGURED OUT******

[ivan salis]

I was speaking more about the purity of the voting "process" rather than the exact persons (politicans) involved in it.

 

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[jeff of pa]

I was speaking more about the purity of the voting "process" rather than the exact persons (politicans) involved in it.

funny ! because for some reason, when I read your post it all seems one sided ,
like it's a political opinion of yours

and of course those who created the Numbers

 

[ivan salis]

the numbers were created by the so called "voters" of the various states --the statisical study of the election results -- tight voter id states (photo id required) 25 % for obama vs some id states ( some positive form of id required but not a photo id) 40% for obama vs loose states (no positive proof required) 100 % for obama --speaks for themselves * if one can not figger it out for themselves, as far as what occured by looking at massive % differance , then we as a country are doomed.

 

[pat-tekker-cat]

Very good Frankn! The reason for this behaviour is: Loss of Love for neighbors.
Neighbors being defined as, anyone who has lived, is living, or will live.

A very smart man, back in the 1950's and 60's or so, by the name of Dan MacDougald, after having studied POW's during the Korean war, wondered what and why it was, of the 3000 American POW's, the majority of them either went insane, took their own lives, and/or returned home very very damaged by their experiences. While the same Turkish POW's, who only numbered around 300, were basically unaffected.

Mr. Macdougald was then hired in Georgia, to determine for the land and water beureas, as to why one man upstream controlling a dam and spillway, would release waters, and flood their neighbors downstream. Were they just doing their job?
The conclusion of his work was; loss of love for neighbors.
This man, along with his best friend, Norman Malick-Yonan, brought back from Turkey the Yonan Codex. The put together a course, to rehabilitate the most hardened of criminals, and started their first workshops in Reidsville prison.
When one has loss of love for theirselves and/or their neighbors, you will see fear and anger come to surface and the worst of atrocities committed. Even JUSTIFIED! Much as we all see these things still, even today!

I am very honored to hold in my possesion, some of the files, life bio's, and courses, of these men, who were ahead of their time. They would have done much good in the world, except for the fact, that reducing recidivism and making whole, even the hardest of criminals, did not put money in the courts/sheriff/wardens/prisons pockets. And as with most businesses: affect their pocketbooks and they will take you out. Shame, shame, shame.

The fact was true thousands of years ago, 50 years ago, and still today. Loss of love for self and for your neighbors, is the undoing of our humanity. Imho.

 

[jeff of pa]

still politics( remember "hanging Chads" ? )unless the numbers are created by the so called "voters" of the various states,
for both sides of all elections for at least the last 10 elections.
Because voter fraud by both sides as gone on from day 1
and choosing one side is politically motivated.

Except for your Favorites.... Right ?

 

[worldtalker]

Very good Frankn! The reason for this behaviour is: Loss of Love for neighbors.
Neighbors being defined as, anyone who has lived, is living, or will live.

A very smart man, back in the 1950's and 60's or so, by the name of Dan MacDougald, after having studied POW's during the Korean war, wondered what and why it was, of the 3000 American POW's, the majority of them either went insane, took their own lives, and/or returned home very very damaged by their experiences. While the same Turkish POW's, who only numbered around 300, were basically unaffected.

Mr. Macdougald was then hired in Georgia, to determine for the land and water beureas, as to why one man upstream controlling a dam and spillway, would release waters, and flood their neighbors downstream. Were they just doing their job?
The conclusion of his work was; loss of love for neighbors.
This man, along with his best friend, Norman Malick-Yonan, brought back from Turkey the Yonan Codex. The put together a course, to rehabilitate the most hardened of criminals, and started their first workshops in Reidsville prison.
When one has loss of love for theirselves and/or their neighbors, you will see fear and anger come to surface and the worst of atrocities committed. Even JUSTIFIED! Much as we all see these things still, even today!

I am very honored to hold in my possesion, some of the files, life bio's, and courses, of these men, who were ahead of their time. They would have done much good in the world, except for the fact, that reducing recidivism and making whole, even the hardest of criminals, did not put money in the courts/sheriff/wardens/prisons pockets. And as with most businesses: affect their pocketbooks and they will take you out. Shame, shame, shame.

The fact was true thousands of years ago, 50 years ago, and still today. Loss of love for self and for your neighbors, is the undoing of our humanity. Imho.

Powerful thing,love thy neighbor as thy self,indeed it is!

 

[ivan salis]

favorites? -- I hate all politicans -- politicans by their very nature are at the very best--- theifs * --since any form of govt must take in more money than it gives back to the people it takes it from (since any form of govt must support itself and its employees off the money it takes in from the public it taxes) -- so by its very nature --any govt must take in more than it gives out in return --unless it runs a "tab' or creates debt-in the peoples name of course * --which of course in the end since debt must be paid along with interest for running that "debt" up --means even more money taken from the people by the govt . --or as I call em --the grubbermint --govt might be a "nessicary evil" but if it is --the the best kind is the smallest one possible , so as to be the least burden on the people.

 

[jeff of pa]

good save

 

[Frankn]

Pat, I would break it down to a simpler meaning. There is a thin line between the two, but you are either happy or unhappy and your actions are determined by the state you are in at the time. This happy/unhappy state is purely determined by your enviroment. Think of it this way, when things are going right for you, you are happy, but the minute things start falling out of place, look out! Frank

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Pat, I would break it down to a simpler meaning. There is a thin line between the two, but you are either happy or unhappy and your actions are determined by the state you are in at the time. This happy/unhappy state is purely determined by your enviroment. Think of it this way, when things are going right for you, you are happy, but the minute things start falling out of place, look out! Frank

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The Holocaust?

 

[ivan salis]

THE HOLOCAST *-- VERY BAD ENVIROMENT (THE CAMPS ) WHEN YOU ARE PLACED INTO SUCH A ROTTEN PLACE RAN BY SUCH EVIL RULES BY SICK TWISTED WARPED PEOPLE --WHAT BUT BAD THINGS CAN OCCUR?

 

[dieselram94]

Concentration camps, rounding people up. All happened after Germany took all the guns, just saying.....

 

[ivan salis]

I AM PRO SMALL FEDERAL GOVT (AND GOVT IN GENERAL) * because the bigger the federal govt (OR ANY GOVT FOR THAT MATTER) gets the more of a FISCAL burden it becomes on "we the people" and the more "power over the people" it seeks to draw into its grasp --since in my veiw a "good federal govt" should only be as big as it must be to do the few things that a state govt or the people can not do for themselves

 

[Frankn]

The Constitution defines what the Federal Government can do but they keep distorting the interpenetration to gain more power. Look at the Interstate commerce provision. It was merely meant to regulate trade between states. Now it is being used to jump into everything. Look at the TSA. It is now jumping into roadblocks scans with no probable cause. It is a gross violation of the constitution. Frank