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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel - KGC View Post
    WRONG! Started BEFORE the BRITS even came "ashore", over colonies being OVER-TAXED...
    In reality, the British Parliament had voted to relax the most protested of the taxes, but the news would not reach the colonies for 3 weeks. It was during that time that the British regulars were sent to Lexington and Concord to do 2 things:
    1. Arrest Sam Adams (Sons of Liberty leader)
    2. Seize both weapons and ammo(shot and powder) that was stored. This started the
    war...

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    Rebel,

    A bit of a generality but most of the EU member countries lean somewhat towards the socialist side of things.....pretty hefty government pensions, social security, etc....for the most part too much expenses = not enough revenues to maintain the entitlements......at some point it becomes a bit of a house of cards and the whole thing implodes....

    That kind of explains the mess most of the EU community is in right now......

    I'm sure stockpicker who's in the financial business can add some more lucidity or further explanations to my simplistic take on this.

    Regards + HH

    Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel - KGC View Post
    What kind of government do they have, tho...?
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    Thats why we dont want America to mimic europe.Its a pretty shaky deal,to say the least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0121stockpicker View Post
    This is what we call " revisionist history" -
    the illegitimate distortion of the historical record such that certain events appear in a more or less favourable light.

    This is like the folks who say the holocaust never happened.

    Always be skeptical !!!

    "Revisionist history", I see you have been to school here as this is what the schools teach these days. Paint the founding fathers in a bad light, tell students how bad the Bill of Rights are, make students worship Obama with songs, teach the kids republicans and Tea party are terrorists, you know the whole package dictated by the dept. of education
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    Quote Originally Posted by bill from lachine View Post
    Rebel,

    A bit of a generality but most of the EU member countries lean somewhat towards the socialist side of things.....pretty hefty government pensions, social security, etc....for the most part too much expenses = not enough revenues to maintain the entitlements......at some point it becomes a bit of a house of cards and the whole thing implodes....

    That kind of explains the mess most of the EU community is in right now......

    I'm sure stockpicker who's in the financial business can add some more lucidity or further explanations to my simplistic take on this.

    Regards + HH

    Bill
    OK, THANKS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dieselram94

    "Revisionist history", I see you have been to school here as this is what the schools teach these days. Paint the founding fathers in a bad light, tell students how bad the Bill of Rights are, make students worship Obama with songs, teach the kids republicans and Tea party are terrorists, you know the whole package dictated by the dept. of education
    Completely agree but I think both "sides" are guilty. Even fact and history is now "tampered with" to prove a point. That's why I remain an independent skeptical thinker!!

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    Bill, the European model just doesn't work. Especially in America. Just how do you like your socialized medicine anyways?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dieselram94

    "Revisionist history", I see you have been to school here as this is what the schools teach these days. Paint the founding fathers in a bad light, tell students how bad the Bill of Rights are, make students worship Obama with songs, teach the kids republicans and Tea party are terrorists, you know the whole package dictated by the dept. of education
    Actually had first come across the term when seeing a documentary about the people who deny the death camps. It was amazing to see the "proof", "logic" etc around their arguments. Very scary- very evil. But I could see how it could sway some. Many bad people tske advantage of peoples distrust of the government, science, education and can manipulate them into believing all sorts of absolutely crazy things. Very dangerous. Schools need to be teaching their students logic and skepticism. I teach my young girls to question everything!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel - KGC

    OK, THANKS!
    Yes, just about every country in the first world is "socialist" to one extent or another. But the countries mentioned about have always had very very socialist governments. I think it's very risky when the government becomes a bigger and bigger part of the economy. And all that $$$ they hand out was just borrowed from others. Just like an individual spending beyond their means for way to long. Sooner or later you pay the piper!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0121stockpicker View Post
    Actually had first come across the term when seeing a documentary about the people who deny the death camps. It was amazing to see the "proof", "logic" etc around their arguments. Very scary- very evil. But I could see how it could sway some. Many bad people tske advantage of peoples distrust of the government, science, education and can manipulate them into believing all sorts of absolutely crazy things. Very dangerous. Schools need to be teaching their students logic and skepticism. I teach my young girls to question everything!!
    I think that is great that you teach your girls to be independent thinkers, however just what dangerous things are you refering to?
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    Happy to always take any stock market / financial questions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 0121stockpicker View Post
    Happy to always take any stock market / financial questions.
    Not to change the subject but what do you think of Oppenheimer funds? Maybe start a new thread?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 0121stockpicker View Post
    Happy to always take any stock market / financial questions.
    LOL! Will have some questions, soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dieselram94

    Not to change the subject but what do you think of Oppenheimer funds? Maybe start a new thread?
    I think there is a stock / investment forum that's not used too often that I can hang out at for questions. Obviously all answers my own opinion.
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    Bevo,

    May very well be true but unfortunately North America is not immune to the same meltdown....Canada has a federal deficit to the tune of 500/600 billion and a couple of our provinces are getting close to the tipping point debt versus revenues....

    To gross it up X10 you'd be looking at 5/6 trillion for comparison purposes population wise for the US versus the actual amount which is around 16 trillion I believe and a couple of the states including California are already virtually bankrupt...

    It doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy feeling for either of our countries.....

    After the 2nd World War they had the Bretton Woods agreement where the major countries agreed to have a limited amount of currency based on what could be backed by the gold they had in reserve.....printing unlimited paper fiat money merely kicks the problem/issue down the road and doesn't solve the underlying problems.

    If you, me or our governments make $1 and spends $1.20 year after year the whole house of cards comes tumbling down at some point in time.....or the value/purchasing power of those fiat dollars get devalued by the market place.....kind of economics 101....IMHO.

    Regards + HH

    Bill


    Quote Originally Posted by bevo View Post
    Thats why we dont want America to mimic europe.Its a pretty shaky deal,to say the least.

 

 
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