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    Folks, Ethics of martial arts.....

    Folks,

    I've done a fair amount of martial arts training on and off over the years....late 70's I took courses in Shoalin Wu Shu.....or as it's called in the west Kung Fu.

    We're talking about 1978 or so.....the Sifu/master was a Mr Lee....you couldn't walk in off the street and be a student....you had to be introduced by a current student to get accepted.

    A gal I had met did the intros and I was accepted as a student....lots of protocol to follow...there was an alter with candles continuously burning and a picture of his master....off with the shoes when you entered the dojo and you bowed when passing the alter as a sign of respect.

    You accepted the master's instructions/rules without question....but in return you were effectively adopted as a blood relative without question by the master....regardless of your ethnic background....

    Any master worth his salt teaches you that the martial arts are to be treated with the utmost respect and are not to be used unless your back is against the wall and you have no other recourse....and even then.....use the minimum force required to neutralize your assailant.

    Given that back in the day I was pretty wild and crazy, however, the discipline I learned from this training I'll probably carry to my grave.

    1:-Walk away from confrontation unless you're in mortal danger and even then use the minimum required under the circumstances.

    2:-If you befriend someone who you feel is worth of you friendship....you stick by them regardless.

    I'm sure others including TH can give their views.....most of the martial arts, be they Chinese, Japanese or Korean probably have similar codes built in to their teachings.

    Feel free to add your views on the topic.

    Regards + HH

    Bill
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    Would like to know MORE about T'ai Chi, myself...

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    Rebel,

    Did T'ai Chi for about 2 years about 20 years ago......it's what the Chinese would call a soft form of self defense....it's all done in slow motion.....however, if you learn it properly and use it at full speed it can be as lethal or more so than the hard forms of martial arts.

    On a positive/non defensive basis....it's probably one of the better forms of exercise to keep the body and joints limber as we get older.....it balances the bodies ying/yang and helps unblock the energy flow due to stress, etc....

    It helps you to keep grounded and tune out every day stresses, etc....if you have a Chinese community in your area it's well worth seeing if they offer courses....given your line of work it would probably be right up your alley.

    Regards + HH

    Bill

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    I totally disagree with you...........just kidding, I think you covered all the bases, I just wanted to be funny ha...ha.
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    THANKS, NO Chinese community in area; SMALL town.

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    Rebel,

    Probably youtube has some videos or you can order books online....the thing with T'ai Chi it's better to have a teacher face to face.....hard to explain....but I had 2 left feet for about 3 months when I started....it looks as simple as h*ll but you have to completely retrain your body.....to get the hang of it....it's a zen thing....lol.

    Regards + HH

    Bill



    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel - KGC View Post
    THANKS, NO Chinese community in area; SMALL town.

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    Rebel's line of work? thought he was a moonshiner

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    bevo,

    No problem....if you've seen some of my other posts.....I tend to be pretty zany most of the time....and once in awhile I actually get rational....probably Crispin's bad influence that's caused that.

    Actually the whole Asian mindset is pretty much opposite to what westerners think or how they come at things.....like why would someone devote all their free time to training in self defense and refuse to use it.....it took me awhile to get it....but it teaches you discipline and self control.....the self defense part is just a by product of the training....hope this makes some sense.

    Regards + HH

    Bill


    Quote Originally Posted by bevo View Post
    I totally disagree with you...........just kidding, I think you covered all the bases, I just wanted to be funny ha...ha.
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    One of my good buddies in med school was a martial arts instructor for Goju. He learned from a dojo in NYC and had been doing it for about 11 years. I learned a lot from him about when to use martial arts and the spirituality behind it. He would teach me things as study breaks. Over four years...you pick up a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff-gordon View Post
    Rebel's line of work? thought he was a moonshiner
    LOL! Wanna learn some MOUNTAIN Martial Arts, then...? Within "SPITTING DISTANCE"...?
    Last edited by Rebel - KGC; Feb 11, 2013 at 07:08 PM.

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    Studied Tae-Kwan-Do for 8 years, earned my 2nd Degree Black belt before issues with ex caused me to stop.......I did fight full contact on Friday nights and twice on Saturdays, Sat mornings and then evenings at the dojo, I enjoyed the full contact....

    We would do 3 mins on the body bag, 3 mins jumping rope, then 3 2 minute rounds in ring with pads, but full contact including to head and face....cracked 3 ribs one night when I stepped in to jam a kick and hit with a back fist when he happen to pick that exact same moment to do a spinning back kick and I got caught in full extension of the kick.... My favorite move was the spinning back fist, I would attack with lefts and rights then retreat bakc trying to pull him in so I could use the spinning back fist... ....
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    Crispin,

    Yep.....it's time well spent....for the discipline if nothing else....when I was taking T'ai Chi about 20 years ago my sifu/master at the time Mr Hum who had spent 10 years in mainland China learning Kung Fu, Tai Chi and Bagua/Baqua offer to teach me Baqua.....it's also a soft form of martial arts.....but very deadly.....similar to what TH learned.

    He was very selective as to which students he was prepared to share these secrets with.....I told him I was honored to be offered the instructions....however, I didn't have the time required to devote to it to do it justice....nor did I want the responsibility to learn to kill with my bare hands.....

    Regards + HH

    Bill



    Quote Originally Posted by Crispin View Post
    One of my good buddies in med school was a martial arts instructor for Goju. He learned from a dojo in NYC and had been doing it for about 11 years. I learned a lot from him about when to use martial arts and the spirituality behind it. He would teach me things as study breaks. Over four years...you pick up a lot.

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    Cat stance...that is the best defensive position (I was taught.) Core of body in line, root strong. Deflect or counter any attack. We would spar, but I was a play thing to him, just for stress relief. He never hit me hard enough to break bones. I never hit him, lol. I would practice with some of his students at times, no face contact. They would get upset at my cat stance...lol, patience, I waited for them.

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    never had any martial arts training, but I am fully potty trained. If attacked my favorite position is fetal
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff-gordon View Post
    never had any martial arts training, but I am fully potty trained. If attacked my favorite position is fetal
    Believe or not... THAT is a great position to cover/protect "vital parts".

 

 
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