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That's my opinion and if it's misinformed then please feel free to inform me. I have an open mind, if I'm wrong and receive more information, thus being properly informed, I will have no problem changing my perceived misinformed opinion.

Open minded, Huh? This is the most close minded statement I have heard since That dummy professor in the early 2000s.

It really shows your utter lack of understanding in world affairs and is the reason that discussions with you carry no import.
We will both be better off by me just saying, Have a nice day, Go dig something up.
 

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Saddam killed on average 80,000+ of his own people a year for each of the 23 years he was in power, total estimates of close to 2 million of his own people....

Approx 176,000 to 189,000 Iraqis have died since the 2nd war started depending on which study you look at, and that includes deaths committed by all sides...

Basically Saddam killed as many in just 2 years than total died between March 20 2003 and December 18, 2011, 8 years, 8 months, the official dates of the war.....
 

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Open minded, Huh? This is the most close minded statement I have heard since That dummy professor in the early 2000s.

It really shows your utter lack of understanding in world affairs and is the reason that discussions with you carry no import.
We will both be better off by me just saying, Have a nice day, Go dig something up.

Bacon mate...this passes for "no i can't tell you why you are grossly and dangerously uninformed...so i just won't talk to you anymore!"....I think Dave has it saved as an emote lol.
 

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Ah, Yes, I was hoping for more, and then you came along Dano. Do you also believe that this tenet is what is making your country so dangerous for women? Obviously it is the way Swedes push the middle east around that makes them hate your women so.

Ooops, I am sorry, did I get above your understanding there?

Maybe I should be more clear. Do you think that the way the women in Sweden act, and the way they yell about the treatment of women in the middle east makes them earn the rape that they are able to get during the "jihad".

Do you understand the analogy now?
 

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Funny thing....
During my FIRST tour, during the initial invasion...I don't remember any "insurgents" I just remember inefficient Iraqi troops and conscripts surrendering in droves after they fired a few rounds and realized they were outmatched.
I remember being MOBBED with civilians who were um.... Pretty happy to see us?

It was only til about 2005 or so when I saw people flooding in from OTHER countries to "fight the infidel" that stuff got ugly.

Every Durka that we deleted seemed to be from SOMEWHERE ELSE. NOT IRAQ.

I don't remember seeing a KIA after 2006 that was NOT from some other country.

So don't sit from your chair in your basement, swilling coke and tell me that it was for nothing.
You see, the us government realized. "Holy ****, there has been a holy war declared" Now, let's see, we can have troops in a country where these people can GET TO, or we can make them come to the US....Well, we should keep them THERE and fight them THERE.
Now, who would you rather have fighting them? Bubba in Iowa with his shotgun, or people who are armed and trained to do so?
So, before you spout off about why we were "there for so long" look at the big picture. It is bigger than your TV.


Every soldier, sailor, Airman or Marine that was killed in Iraq or AFG was doing their job. And took the place of Americans HERE. That's what we DO.
 

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You know CR, your're spot on, and telling nothing but the truth, but I doubt you got through to them, they will be right back just like they never read your explanation, and have the same ol' BS talking points invented by paid progressive pundits who try to make anything a conservative says or believes in look bad. I don't care what the subject is, if it's conservative, there are a couple of outsiders and a liberal or two American on this forum that will talk down about it, using stuff suggested by others, they have nothing original. I mean, if a guy doesn't know the difference between an American War Memorial and a Vietnam War memorial, what chance do you have telling them the simple truth.
 

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Thank you Boats.

People asked after we deposed and then captured Hussein "Why are we still there?"

Well, WE undertood why we were still there. First off, that country would have jut devolved into centuries of tribal warfare, and secondly every Hajii with an axe to grind in the world (and they WERE in that part of the world) had a target.
The US military was RIGHT there, so they came to us.
NOT to the continental US.
We were trained to fight, and if we were functioning to draw them away from the US and untrained civilians, well, that was ok with me.

I'm done with this subject, the political indoctrination blinding people from facts is so strong is to be painfully stupid.
 

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Well, here,s how I look at it. WE tried to give them a chance at freedom. We succeeded in stamping out the immediate evil that existed.
That said, I have an opinion that the Arab world,as long as it is governed by religious led factions, will never see peace. Frank... 111-1 profileblk.jpg
 

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So...tell me again how the oh so mighty Iraqi Navy would have ferried an invasion force to the US? lol. Seems like they mixed some kind of "agent orange" propaganda pill into the chow over there or something. :)


Dave mate...you're taking one report, a report that was grossly misrepresented and turned viciously towards it being all the fault of immigrants. It's a BS report!...Yeah Sweden has a rape problem but no more than anywhere else in truth.Sweden has a total population of around 10 million, including "immigrants". About the same as the pop' of NYC....which had 340 reported rapes in the 1st 3 months of this year alone! Swedish girls are very desirable, and that's to us "westerners", never mind arabs who are used to only seeing a couple of eyeballs to judge from! Swedish girls are getting drunk more often and never having been too shy about baring flesh, arn't noticing that they've suddenly started swimming with the saltwater croc's!
Until recently Swedes have been pretty well insulated from the world and it's problems. They've opened the gates...and now they're dealing with the results. They'll sink or swim, but the issue isn't as large as the media makes out.
 

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Dano, your appear to be implying it is the Swedish women's fault. It is never a woman's fault when she is raped, does not matter what she is or isn't wearing nor how pretty she may be or how much she has drank....
 

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Dano, your appear to be implying it is the Swedish women's fault. It is never a woman's fault when she is raped, does not matter what she is or isn't wearing nor how pretty she may be or how much she has drank....

No means no.
 

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