What Is It Like Living In a Police State?

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What Is It Like Living In a Police State?

Dave Hodges

We no longer have to ask foreign refugees what it is like living inside a police state. All we have to do is to read the daily accounts of innocent Americans being abused and murdered through the excessive use of force being used by local police who have been federalized by the Department of Homeland Security

What used to be the beacon of hope, has rapidly become the spotlight of tyranny. I am speaking of America, both then and now.

When heinous acts of physical abuse were revealed in American prisons inside of Iraq, we should have considered that someday the same treatment would await American citizens. When we permitted our government the right to detain “terrorists” in Guantanamo without following the due process of law, shouldn’t we have realized that someday the same treatment would await you and me? And now that treatment is here. It is called the NDAA and the Executive Order 13603 which allows the government carte blanche to do what they will with American citizens without following the due process of law.

What follows in this article are both typical and daily examples of how a DHS federalized local police force will act like Stalin’s KGB and abuse its citizens. Acts of police brutality against American citizens is a daily event which takes place multiple times across our country. Not a day goes by that we do not see the unjustified use of deadly force used against innocent citizens and the perpetrators of this state-sponsored violence are rarely, if ever, brought to justice.

Finally, this article will compare the evolving genocide being perpetrated against Venezuelan protesters to what recently released military documents state are in store for future American protesters. The parallels are exceptionally disturbing.
Unwarranted Search and Seizure

Why are the police obsessed with taking our DNA while stopping us for the most petty of traffic offenses? Twenty-six states and the federal government allow genetic swabs to be taken after a felony arrest and without a warrant. Each has different procedures, but in all cases, only a profile is created. About 13 individual markers of some 3 billion are isolated from a suspect’s DNA. And of course, the Obama administration is in favor of seemingly everything, including the taking of our DNA without a warrant.

Is the government doing this because they can, or because they have something nefarious planned for our future with regard to the misuse of our DNA?

Can anyone make some sense out of this Fourth Amendment violation?
The Unwarranted Abuse of Police Power

The following cases are occurring on a daily basis multiple times.

Consider what Chicago is doing with a two million dollar grant from the National Institute of Justice. The list was constructed from predictive schema of 400 people mostly likely to commit a crime and one does not have to have a criminal record to make the list.



Also in Chicago, and in a case of “I’ve got low friends in high places”, former Chicago police Superintendent, Jody Weis, who ordered the 2011 re-investigation of David Koschman’s death, recently stated that he’s concerned that high-ranking cops apparently fabricated a self-defense claim to avoid charging a nephew of Mayor Richard M. Daley with murder.

n Austin, Texas, the police arrest a female jogger, physically brutalize her for not carrying an ID and then their police chief, Art Acevedo defends the practice in public.

In Oklahoma City, it is worse. Luis Rodriguez, 44, goes to the movies and is murdered by the police for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. The family is suing, but that won’t bring back Luis.

In Tennessee, even when you prove you are innocent of DUI, you are still guilty in a country where the DHS federalized police are judge, jury and executioner. The Tennessee Supreme Court decided last Thursday that the only use for roadside sobriety tests is to collect evidence against motorists, using them to convict individuals for driving under the influence of alcohol (DUI). The high court justices overturned an appellate decision from 2012 that found a driver who passed six of the tests and should never have been arrested (view 2012 ruling). David D. Bell was arrested on May 13, 2009, even though the trial judge found no evidence of impairment in the sobriety tests when he reviewed the dashcam footage. This is a case of you are guilty because “we say you are”.

The above accounts are representative of reports of police state abuse of innocent citizens. You are no longer protected by the Constitution. You have no rights. And in what is, perhaps, the most disturbing outgrowth of this decent into tyranny, has to do with what the government plans to do with protesters.
Venezuela Is a Laboratory for Emerging Genocide.

Government forces in Venezuela are summarily executing its citizens from motorcycles. Authorities are also breaking down doors of apartment buildings and murdering “suspected” protesters. Protesters are being murdered by the Venezuelan government without trial.
Some citizens, who are luckier than most are simply being arrested for “suspicion” of protest. Last week, government opposition leader Leopoldo Lopez surrendered to authorities. He is charged with inciting violence and opposition to the government. His arrest led to even more protesting. Venezuelan citizen, Gauber Venot, stated “It’s important we have foreign media here. Our media is censored; we learn about our own country from outside sources.” So is ours Mr. Venot, so is ours.

Of course, this is Venezuela and this could never happen in America. Perhaps one might want to revise this consideration in light of recently released American military documents.

I think the public has a right to know how its government plans to handle future protests. Is America the new Venezuela? A previously secret document which was leaked online; entitled FM 3-39.40 Internment and Resettlement Operations (PDF).

RIOT FORMATIONS

H-42. Quick-reaction force teams should be established with a minimum response time. Because of the physical nature of riot control, individuals in riot control formations should not carry rifles. Nonlethal attachments should follow closely behind the riot control formation. Lethal coverage must be provided for this entire formation. (See FM 3-22.40.)

DESIGNATED MARKSMEN

H-43. During a nonlethal engagement, the use of designated marksmen provides confidence and safety to those facing a riot. If a lethal threat is presented, the designated marksmen in overwatch positions (armed with appropriate sniper weapons mounted with high-powered scopes) can scan a crowd and identify agitators and riot leaders for apprehension and fire lethal rounds if warranted. Additionally, they are ideally suited for flank security and countersniper operations. (See FM 3-22.40.).

I am hard pressed to make this comparison any more clear. The parallels speak clearly for themselves.
Conclusion

What is the difference between Venezuela and America? The short answer is that there is no difference. America is well on its way to being a full-fledged police state. However, that is not the most disturbing thing. The most disturbing outgrowth of living in Police State America, is that we are passively accepting this abuse.
 

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Would you rather live in America, or Venezuela? Wait, would you rather live in America, or France? LMAO in New York..
 

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Almost. The final element will be to disarm the general public...and they are working on this now.

I agree... disarming "us" would have to happen 1st. but I do feel they are working on this. And what really riles me up is when some IDIOT shoots children and then the other idiots come out of the woodwork talking about doing away with guns to protect the children. They have absolutely no idea that guns don't kill people anymore than a hammer does.
 

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To much to take, I'm just going to end it tired of stressing over all this crap, mostly tired of waiting for the time to come to be a martyr..bastages!

To much info to go through is better than not enough buddy:icon_thumleft:Hang in there pal.
 

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yes ,i agree with you red. way to passive!america is nothing like the brochure said it was going to be ,i want my money back!!!
 

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I would probably be among the first to go, but I can assure you, I will take quite a few with me. Frank... 111-2 700Warrior Head.jpg
Only the brave die young, but I am way past that!
 

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Only the brave die young, but I am way past that!

Dont tell this man that,except this guy didnt die:laughing7:

Samuel Whittemore


Samuel Whittemore (July 27, 1694 - February 3, 1793) was an English-American farmer and soldier. He was eighty years of age when he became the oldest known colonial combatant in the American Revolutionary War (1775-83).[1]

Whittemore was born in England. He went to North America in 1745 as a Captain of Dragoons in the British Army, where he fought in King George's War (1744-48). He was involved in the capture of the French stronghold, Fort Louisburg. After the war, he remained in the colonies, settling in Menotomy, Massachusetts (present-day Arlington). He subsequently fought in the French and Indian War (1754-63) at the age of 64, once again assisting in the capture of Fort Louisburg.[2]

On April 19, 1775, British forces were returning to Boston from the Battles of Lexington and Concord, the opening engagements of the war. On their march, they were continually shot at by colonial militiamen.

Whittemore was in his fields when he spotted an approaching British relief brigade under Earl Percy, sent to assist the retreat. Whittemore loaded his musket and ambushed the British Grenadiers of the 47th Regiment of Foot from behind a nearby stone wall, killing one soldier. He then drew his dueling pistols and killed a grenadier and mortally wounded a second. By the time Whittemore had fired his third shot, a British detachment reached his position; Whittemore drew his sword and attacked.[2] He was shot in the face, bayoneted thirteen times, and left for dead in a pool of blood. He was found alive, trying to load his musket to fight again. He was taken to Dr. Cotton Tufts of Medford, who perceived no hope for his survival. However, Whittemore lived another 18 years until dying of natural causes at the age of 98.
 

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Ok.....This caught my eye earlier due to something I read this morning, not sure whether here or Drudge, indicating many Americans would be willing to live with less freedoms in order to assure more security. Then this comes up about what it must be like to live in a "police state".

I live in Honduras, which some like to call a police state. I've never been to Venezuela, but I've ventured to Guatemala & Nicaragua (a "communist" state), and I don't see a whit of difference among the three. Most of the common people are too busy trying to survive without an EBT card or welfare check to worry about politics. Life changes very little for most, and they wouldn't know a police state if it bit them in the butt. A few things I have noticed, however:

Here in Honduras the news media are very uncensored and have no obvious political bias. You can pretty much count on the truth of what you read. Even the world news is not so politically filtered. As far as security, there isn't a lot of that here. It's still like the Wild West in a lot of ways, but the people have immense freedom. Unless it's really necessary, there is very little government regulation. Any citizen or permanent resident can own up to five firearms, with a choice of nearly anything available in the US. A lot of illegal firearms are on the street, but the police are cleaning that up pretty well. The Policia Militar are well respected, always friendly and helpful. I've never had a problem with them or with any government official. People can come and go as they please, and do not need papers or permits to travel, even to other Central American countries if they have their Honduran ID. Voting is very well regulated, and strict ID laws apply. Elections are normally very clean, though the communists usually try some intimidation trick or other. You do not need a permit to paint your house a different color, or to build a dog house. To me it appears far from a police state.

In the US there are untold thousands of regulations covering most every aspect of your daily life in one way or other. People are usually more than ready to sue each other for any minor infraction that isn't covered to their satisfaction by a regulation. As stated in posts above, there are movements abroad to do away with firearms, but I doubt there will be a general confiscation. It is far more like to be by encroaching regulation. They will be regulated out of existence before the majority of people even notice. America will certainly and surely become a police state in the future, but it will come slowly, like boiling a frog. Americans will regulate their freedoms out of existence.
 

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HEY! Want a "Police State" AND! "HIGH-Tech" Society...? Go to CHINA! 8-) All that POLLUTION! :tongue3:
 

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it's not too bad....
 

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Ok.....This caught my eye earlier due to something I read this morning, not sure whether here or Drudge, indicating many Americans would be willing to live with less freedoms in order to assure more security. Then this comes up about what it must be like to live in a "police state". I live in Honduras, which some like to call a police state. I've never been to Venezuela, but I've ventured to Guatemala & Nicaragua (a "communist" state), and I don't see a whit of difference among the three. Most of the common people are too busy trying to survive without an EBT card or welfare check to worry about politics. Life changes very little for most, and they wouldn't know a police state if it bit them in the butt. A few things I have noticed, however: Here in Honduras the news media are very uncensored and have no obvious political bias. You can pretty much count on the truth of what you read. Even the world news is not so politically filtered. As far as security, there isn't a lot of that here. It's still like the Wild West in a lot of ways, but the people have immense freedom. Unless it's really necessary, there is very little government regulation. Any citizen or permanent resident can own up to five firearms, with a choice of nearly anything available in the US. A lot of illegal firearms are on the street, but the police are cleaning that up pretty well. The Policia Militar are well respected, always friendly and helpful. I've never had a problem with them or with any government official. People can come and go as they please, and do not need papers or permits to travel, even to other Central American countries if they have their Honduran ID. Voting is very well regulated, and strict ID laws apply. Elections are normally very clean, though the communists usually try some intimidation trick or other. You do not need a permit to paint your house a different color, or to build a dog house. To me it appears far from a police state. In the US there are untold thousands of regulations covering most every aspect of your daily life in one way or other. People are usually more than ready to sue each other for any minor infraction that isn't covered to their satisfaction by a regulation. As stated in posts above, there are movements abroad to do away with firearms, but I doubt there will be a general confiscation. It is far more like to be by encroaching regulation. They will be regulated out of existence before the majority of people even notice. America will certainly and surely become a police state in the future, but it will come slowly, like boiling a frog. Americans will regulate their freedoms out of existence.
GOD Bless you my Friend for speaking what you SEE!
 

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True but,rest assured it will get a LOT worse as the Sun Sets and Rises rest assured.
That is why a lot more people, some supposedly "in the know" and WITHOUT tinfoil hats, are saying prepare a Plan B, a way to get out of the country while you can.

Frankly, I feel SO much more at ease here in a banana republic.
 

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