What Bit Me, a Spida? Need Help.

[twister]

I hope you get better soon. Infections are far worse than some people believe, believe me I know!! If it is in your system definitely go right back to the ER and make sure they take care of that asap. Nothing to fool around with at all. Good luck to you.

Twister

 

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[Montana Jim]

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[Bigcypresshunter]

I hope you're right.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

It may be nothing serious, but I wouldn't take the chance. I've had staph before, and thats definately not staph. My whole arm turned the nastiest shade of green and black in a matter of two days, it spreads rapidly.

Do get in though. If need be, disguise yourself as a Cuban.

I told them I was Mexican and received all my meds for free.

 

[hollowpointred]

keep a close eye on it cy. if youre not getting any better and in fact getting worse, go back for stronger meds. just use your good sense and dont give it a chance to strengthen and im sure youll be back to normal in no time. just monitor it closely.

 

[SomeGuy]

Keep a close eye on this. A friend of mine almost lost a finger due to gangrene caused by a brown recluse spider bite in his sleep. Only symptom was mysterious pain and swelling.

Want to know how to make an antibiotic resistant strain of bacteria? Stop taking the antibiotics as soon as you feel better. The remaining bacteria, the most antibiotic resistant, will survive and reproduce.

 

[ivan salis]

glad to see you went---take all your meds on time --all of them even if you feel better take them---no booze or milk ( they screw up the antibotics) some strains are resistant so keep a close eye on it ---hopefully you get better quickly ---if you went sooner it might not of been gotten quite as bad, but as my ole gramps used to say "as you live you learn" ivan

 

[diggummup]

Dale,quit pickin at it would ya! Your just gonna make it worse!




On the serious side,I hope everything turns out okay,that is a nasty looking bite.I hate spiders more than I hate palmetto bugs.For the swelling and redness,get a tea bag and get it wet,place it on the bite and wrap it up,the swelling will go away.As for the nausea,drink some ginger ale and eat a few saltine crackers,should help some.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Dale,quit pickin at it would ya! Your just gonna make it worse!

IAs for the nausea,drink some ginger ale and eat a few saltine crackers,should help some.

I havent touched it. Hurts too much. What about a beer with some crackers?

Someone told me those Daddy Long Legs spiders can bite. Is this true? We have them all around the house. I usually leave them alone.

 

[Jeffro]

Daddy longlegs are more poisonous than widows. Good thing is, their fangs are too small to get into a human. Harmless to us. They're the good guys! Used to play with them all the time when I was young. Them and garter snakes. Drove my Mom nuts!

 

[roswellborn]

Dang, that looks painful!

What everyone else has said - take the meds, all of 'em, if it keeps gettin' worse, get back to the ER! Posthaste, even.

For relief, a slice of raw potato laid over the wound can make it feel cooler, and it may even help pull out the poison (although by now, who knows).

Emu oil is very good for infection. If it's too sensitive, you can just daub some on with a cotton ball. (yes, emu oil - wonderful stuff).

Do take care of yourself, willya?

Nan

 

[diggummup]

Daddy longlegs are more poisonous than widows. Good thing is, their fangs are too small to get into a human. Harmless to us. They're the good guys! Used to play with them all the time when I was young. Them and garter snakes. Drove my Mom nuts!

Thats an urban myth. I used to play with daddy longlegs too when I was a kid. I know what spider BigC is talking about down here, and those don't look like the daddy longlegs (harvestman) I used to play with up north,these ones have an elongated body and make a web.Neither one is harmful.Here's a couple photos,photo one is a daddy longlegs,photo two is a harvestman (the ones I played with as a kid).

PS- don't drink alchohol while taking antibiotics,they won't work.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Cute. The scariest ones to see in your face are those large Banana Spiders. Golden Silk (Banana) spiders are the largest non tarantula spiders in North America. Here in Florida, we have many with bodies the size of my little finger, and leg spans of over 5 inches. I have been bitten several times by those and its no worse than a bee or wasp sting, Although they can scare you if you get one in your face, down your shirt, (or pants :P) They are very common in the Glades and Big Cypress Swamps creating large webs across walking trails.
http://www.shadygrovetrainingcenter.com/Wildlife/bannana_spider_photo_gallery.htm

 

[Tricia]

That's a beautiful spider. I know you're not a fan, after the bite possibly being a spider and all, but they are amazing creatures.

 

[SC_hunter]

LOL>...more spider facts.....as far as being poisonous, check out what this site says about the long legs..lol
http://www.funtrivia.com/Animals/Spiders.html

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

That's a beautiful spider. I know you're not a fan, after the bite possibly being a spider and all, but they are amazing creatures.

Yea cute with hairy legs and all.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

No improvement yet. Increased swelling.

 

[SomeGuy]

Go back to Dr. now. Seriously.

My friend got gangrene when we were students at UF. He went to the infirmiry. They lanced it, no pus, just blood. It got worse, he went back w/ same results. It got worse, he went to Shands teaching hospital...they took one look at it and preped him for surgery. Told him he would probably lose the finger, perhaps the whole hand.

They slit the finger lengthwise, cut out al the dead tissue, and left it open to heal from the inside out. Had to change dressing and irregate w/ peroxide twice a day. Took months to heal.

 

[diggummup]

LOL>...more spider facts.....as far as being poisonous, check out what this site says about the long legs..lol
http://www.funtrivia.com/Animals/Spiders.html

Sorry, wrong answer,read the disclaimer at the bottom of the page.Here's the real facts-



Daddy-longlegs Myth
Have you heard this one?:

DADDY-LONGLEGS ARE ONE OF THE MOST POISONOUS SPIDERS BUT THEIR FANGS ARE TOO SHORT TO BITE HUMANS
This tale has been lurking around for years. I have heard it repeatedly in the United States and even heard a schoolteacher misinforming her class at a museum in Brisbane, Australia. This is incorrect, but to clarify it, several points need to be explained first.

The animals
Most folks who retell this tale have no idea that they are referring to two completely separate groups of animals: "daddy-longlegs" and "daddy-longlegs spiders". In the animal class Arachnida, there are several lower level divisions called Orders. Scorpions are in the Order Scorpiones, spiders are in the Order Araneae, ticks and mites are in the Order Acari.

The creatures most correctly called daddy-longlegs are in their own separate Order which is Opiliones. Common names for this Order are 1) daddy-longlegs, 2) harvestmen and 3) opilionids. They are characterized by having one basic body segment which shows segmentation on the posterior portion, at most 2 eyes and all 8 legs attach to the pill-like body segment. They are usually found under logs and rocks, prefer moist habitat although they can be found in the desert, often have long flexible legs (in the temperate Northern hemisphere but there are also short-legged daddy-longlegs) and they do not produce silk so therefore they are never found in webs unless they are being eaten by spiders. Because they are found under logs and other stuff which people most often are not turning over, most folks don't run into daddy-longlegs very often.

Another creature often called daddy-longlegs are actually spiders. These long-legged spiders are in the family Pholcidae. Previously the common name of this family was the cellar spiders but arachnologists have also given them the moniker of "daddy-longlegs spiders" because of the confusion generated by the general public. Because these arachnids are spiders, they have 2 body basic body parts (cephalothorax and abdomen), have 8 eyes most often clumped together in the front of the body, the abdomen shows no evidence of segmentation, have 8 legs all attached to the front most body part (the cephalothorax) and make webs out of silk. This is most probably the animal to which people refer when they tell the tale because these spiders are plentiful especially in cellars (hence their common name) and are commonly seen by the general public. The most common pholcid spiders found in U.S. homes are both European immigrants. Pholcus phalangioides is a uniformly grey spider with rectangular, elongate abdomen and is found throughout the U.S. Holocnemus pluchei also has a rectangular, elongate abdomen but has a brown stripe on the ventral side (the belly side - which is typically directed upwards since the spider hangs upside down in its web) which covers its sternum and is a stripe on the abdomen. These spiders are very common along the Pacific Coast. and into the southwest deserts.

Possible envenomation
Is there any truth to this oft-repeated tale?

Daddy-longlegs (Opiliones) - these arachnids make their living by eating decomposing vegetative and animal matter although are opportunist predators if they can get away with it. They do not have venom glands, fangs or any other mechanism for chemically subduing their food. Therefore, they do not have poison and, by the powers of logic, cannot be poisonous from venom. Some have defensive secretions that might be poisonous to small animals if ingested. So, for these daddy-long-legs, the tale is clearly false.

Daddy-longlegs spiders (Pholcidae) - Here, the myth is incorrect at least in making claims that have no basis in known facts. There is no reference to any pholcid spider biting a human and causing any detrimental reaction. If these spiders were indeed deadly poisonous but couldn't bite humans, then the only way we would know that they are poisonous is by milking them and injecting the venom into humans. For a variety of reasons including Amnesty International and a humanitarian code of ethics, this research has never been done. Furthermore, there are no toxicological studies testing the lethality of pholcid venom on any mammalian system (this is usually done with mice). Therefore, no information is available on the likely toxic effects of their venom in humans, so the part of the myth about their being especially poisonous is just that: a myth. There is no scientific basis for the supposition that they are deadly poisonous and there is no reason to assume that it is true.

What about their fangs being too short to penetrate human skin? Pholcids do indeed have short fangs, which in arachnological terms is called "uncate" because they have a secondary tooth which meets the fang like the way the two grabbing parts of a pair of tongs come together. Brown recluse spiders similarly have uncate fang structure and they obviously are able to bite humans. There may be a difference in the musculature that houses the fang such that recluses have stronger muscles for penetration because they are hunting spiders needing to subdue prey whereas pholcid spiders are able to wrap their prey and don't need as strong a musculature. So, again, the myth states as fact something about which there is no scientific basis.

In summary
For true daddy-long-legs, the opilionids, the myth is certainly false, and for the daddy-long-legs spiders it is certainly not based on known facts.


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Department of Entomology
Insect Information
Spiders and other Arachnids




Here's another one- http://en.wikipedia.org//wiki/Pholcidae

 

[teverly]

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