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Aug 17, 2007, 06:33 PM
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Metal detecting scam - you won't believe it
Salina Journal August 17th
Couple lose $45,000 in scam
The owners of a Salina store lost $45,000 to scam artists who convinced them that gold coins were buried under their store, then came up with an elaborate process the two would have to go through to retrieve the fortune.
Deputy Chief Mike Marshall said the two men showed the couple, Maria and Alejandro Ramos, a machine that supposedly beeped to indicate the presence of gold. They convinced the couple that the machine detected gold under the floor of the back room of their store, El Azteca De Oro, 427 S. Broadway.
Marshall said the couple allowed the men to use a jackhammer to get through the concrete, then dig into the soil. The scammers claimed to find a clay box, with a cross on the top and the year "1878" on the bottom. Inside was a letter, written on a leather sheet, that indicated that a treasure chest containing $70,000 in gold coins was buried one to two meters below the box. In order to keep their family from having bad luck for four generations, the letter offered these instructions: the Ramoses could not tell anyone of the discovery, they were to build a worship altar to the god Fray, they were to recite the rosary together for nine days and they were to place in the box money equivalent to the value of the gold coins, and leave it there for nine days.
The Ramoses and the men did as instructed, with the Ramoses contributing $45,000 in cash and the two men allegedly putting in $25,000.
The cash was placed in the box on the altar on July 27. The Ramoses and the two men were to start reciting the rosary together every day on July 28.
Marshall said the scammers called the Ramoses July 28 and indicated that they couldn't get to Salina.
The men never showed up again, and the Ramoses couldn't reach them. But Marshall said the couple recited the rosary every day, for nine days, as instructed.
On Aug. 11, Marshall said, they looked in the box, and all of the money was gone. The box had been filled with newspaper.
They notified police Wednesday.
Marshall said a similar scam was pulled recently at a Reno County store.
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Aug 17, 2007, 06:44 PM
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Re: Metal detecting scam - you won't believe it
You are so very right; I do not believe it! 
GRB
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Aug 17, 2007, 06:49 PM
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Re: Metal detecting scam - you won't believe it
Im sorry if this offends anyone or somethin, but, how friggin stupid can you be? lol I understand the part about letting them look for the gold, but to put all that money in a box & recite the rosary for 9 days in a row? you gotta be kiddin me
Did the crooks show the family the box and the letter or did they just say they found it?
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Aug 17, 2007, 06:52 PM
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LOOT, PLUNDER, PILLAGE...THE SCOURGE OF THE DIRT!
Re: Metal detecting scam - you won't believe it
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH Yeah right If you are that dumb you deserve to have all your money taken. I have to agree with GoldenRoyBoy on this...Unbelieveable
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Aug 17, 2007, 06:58 PM
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Re: Metal detecting scam - you won't believe it
That is a tried and true scam... LMAO.
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Aug 17, 2007, 07:11 PM
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 Digging History
Re: Metal detecting scam - you won't believe it
NOW YOU KNOW HOW I COULD AFFORD MY NEW BOAT
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Aug 17, 2007, 07:13 PM
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Aug 17, 2007, 07:13 PM
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Re: Metal detecting scam - you won't believe it
alot has to do with mexicans being superstitious
here in lie the key/acme/axle of the plan
All animals are equal, but some are more equal then others. -George Orwell
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Aug 17, 2007, 07:16 PM
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Re: Metal detecting scam - you won't believe it
There weren't any other details. I saw it on the Wichita news.
What I want to know is where did they get $45K in CASH ?
They must be selling a LOT of tortillas.
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Aug 17, 2007, 09:36 PM
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Re: Metal detecting scam - you won't believe it
I wish someone would come and stick 25 thousand of THEIR money in a box and bury it under my house! When they came back I would throw them in the hole and keep their money!
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Aug 17, 2007, 09:40 PM
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Re: Metal detecting scam - you won't believe it
the mexicans ALL got big dollars stashed away
All animals are equal, but some are more equal then others. -George Orwell
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Aug 17, 2007, 10:09 PM
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 Gypsyheart~ Queen of Rust
Re: Metal detecting scam - you won't believe it
 Originally Posted by EDDEKALB
the mexicans ALL got big dollars stashed away
Well If I got free medical and dental care , didnt pay taxes or contribute to SS ......I would probally have money too.
I go a great distance,while some are considering whether they will start today or tomorrow
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Aug 18, 2007, 05:02 AM
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Re: Metal detecting scam - you won't believe it
Did it say if they got a FREE bus ride back south of the border? I can belive just about anything now days but this was a hard one...........
Happy Hunting
Desertfox
(Paul)
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Aug 18, 2007, 12:49 PM
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Re: Metal detecting scam - you won't believe it
 Originally Posted by gypsyheart
 Originally Posted by EDDEKALB
the mexicans ALL got big dollars stashed away
Well If I got free medical and dental care , didnt pay taxes or contribute to SS ......I would probally have money too. 
Agree 1000000% Gypsy.
This is an old scam with a new twist, hope they find the scammers and feed'em bread and water for a long time. I hate predators that prey on the elderly.
Member of the "Rowdy Bunch"...CTH 2007...Iron Removal Technician
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Aug 18, 2007, 10:32 PM
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Re: Metal detecting scam - you won't believe it
LMAO.....if this is true, I hope the scammers were good ol' US rednecks 
Smitty
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Aug 18, 2007, 11:35 PM
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 American by Birth ~ Gun Owner by Right ~ Jesus by Choice
Re: Metal detecting scam - you won't believe it
here's your sign!
If anyone else out there is that stupid
please send 25k to me right away, I know where gold is and when recovered I will send you 50% of what I uncover. (just let me know which 50% of the dirt you want top soil or other...never mind I'm not greedy I will send you all 100% of it if you send your money now, yep thats right you get all the dirt I can dig for the low low price of 25k.)
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Aug 19, 2007, 09:46 PM
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Re: Metal detecting scam - you won't believe it
You guys have to be kidding me? The moderators actually allow this kinda BS on this forum? There are a few of you Id never think would say something like this from all the great welcomes I recieved when I first joined this group.I am of Mexican heritage, Texan and most of all American. Not all Mexicans get free medical and dental as you say. As matter of fact most are proud and hard working. I am sure this family earned every bit of that money as any American should. I'd bet it wasnt by selling drugs or stealing from the poor either. They trusted these people and God to do the right thing.I would have thought Id hear more about how to stop someone from doing this again to anyone white, black, red white or blue. At least something positive. Anyway, I am not mad at you it just reminds me why I love what I do. You have the right to free expression. So do I. Sleep well
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Aug 20, 2007, 12:09 AM
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Re: Metal detecting scam - you won't believe it
 Originally Posted by $CUERVOJ
You guys have to be kidding me? The moderators actually allow this kinda BS on this forum? There are a few of you Id never think would say something like this from all the great welcomes I recieved when I first joined this group.I am of Mexican heritage, Texan and most of all American. Not all Mexicans get free medical and dental as you say. As matter of fact most are proud and hard working. I am sure this family earned every bit of that money as any American should. I'd bet it wasnt by selling drugs or stealing from the poor either. They trusted these people and God to do the right thing.I would have thought Id hear more about how to stop someone from doing this again to anyone white, black, red white or blue. At least something positive. Anyway, I am not mad at you it just reminds me why I love what I do. You have the right to free expression. So do I. Sleep well
I doubt anyone here likes the unbelieveable influx of illegals flowing into this country anymore than the rest of the us do. This country is being sucked-dry by people here ILLEGALLY.....who are more than welcome here, as long as they do it according to the laws ALREADY IN PLACE.
LMAO....I thought Americans went to Mexico FOR cheap drugs?? And we've all heard stories about the corrupt government there.......so sorry, have some cheese & crackers to go along with that whine..........
Smitty
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Aug 20, 2007, 05:18 AM
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Re: Metal detecting scam - you won't believe it
Your supposed to say the prayer thingie for 12 days thats why it did not work for them.
Bob knows
if you like what you are getting, keep doing what you are doing!!
Life Member Viet Nam Veterans of America.
N.R.A. Member
GPAA Member
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Aug 20, 2007, 07:13 AM
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 Hey look ~ I wrote a book!
Re: Metal detecting scam - you won't believe it
 Originally Posted by txkickergirl
please send 25k to me right away, I know where gold is and when recovered I will send you 50% of what I uncover. (just let me know which 50% of the dirt you want top soil or other...never mind I'm not greedy I will send you all 100% of it if you send your money now, yep thats right you get all the dirt I can dig for the low low price of 25k.)
Do you accept Italian Lira? Where do I send it and when do I get my gold... Oh, and I'll take all the dirt.
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