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    Priming the Pump to Communicate with Spirits

    we are all (too) familiar with stories of mediums and glass balls communicating with . . . insert whatever
    and ghosts too are familiar to all; but why do some see or hear while others do not?

    is communicating with spirits a particular skill?
    or a specific individual trait?
    or perhaps a chosen tribe for a specific spirit?
    or perhaps a specific spirit for certain functions?

    is communication one way, and if so - which way (up or down?, hot or cold?, light or dark?)
    if communication is 2 way, is an answer (or guidance) always received?
    can more than one participate?

    all of the above questions can be answered, debated, and/or rejected; but the question posed here is a bit different
    -> can one improve, enhance, or augment the ability to communicate with the other world? (as its commonly referred to)

    we have history to guide us; shamen have been talking with the gods, excuse me I ment spirits, since before written history; and in places the activity is an unbroken chain to this day

    it seems to be reasonably accepted that an essential step towards communication is to reduce/suppress the outside influences/distractions of the moment (noise, light, etc.) to facilitate concentration - and there are lots of ways to do this
    it seems desirable to highly stress the body physically to induce a light-headed trance like state - and this is done routinely by depravation of food or water or sleep, bloodletting, self-flagellation, extreme exhaustion, etc.

    so what happens if the receiver won't work?
    you listen intently . . . . . but nothing (other than the wind in your ears, or tinnitus)
    is there help for the deaf ?

    indeed there is, the path has been delineated by the shamen over the ages and every continent; use the mouth to open the brain
    and the list of stimulants, intoxicants, hallucinogenics, et all is stupefyingly large containing the good, the bad, and the poisonous
    note that government has defined many of these to be illegal, but one can visit Central or South America and puke your guts out there

    does such work?
    yes, but not for the mentally weak who may (and do) go nuts, suicide, go into a coma, etc.
    it seems unstable people are prone to breaking (who wudda thought?)

    thoughts?
    Last edited by BillA; May 15, 2019 at 02:18 PM. Reason: grammer

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    Excellent topic, Bill.

    One question.

    How do you determine it is a Spirit you are communicating with and not the 'Little Sargeant', or 'Self', in your head?

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    mine stands at attention, and does not speak unless spoken to
    mental housecleaning is de rigeur, I get pissed off, but I am not emotional

    still waiting for that outside voice
    (no discernable intuition BTW, excessive forebrain input I think))

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    Another solid point to ask yourself - are you SURE you want to invite something into your world which is unknown?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillA View Post
    mine stands at attention, and does not speak unless spoken to
    mental housecleaning is de rigeur, I get pissed off, but I am not emotional

    still waiting for that outside voice
    (no discernable intuition BTW, excessive forebrain input I think))

    Dopamine levels?

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    DADS, indeed that is the very attraction of hallucinogenics - it is different and a product of your mind
    one needs to have a rock-solid sense of ego, because that is the path back

    every day is a new lesson, its cool

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ditlihi View Post
    Dopamine levels?
    not part of a whiz test is it?
    never tested, but rather variable depending on . . . . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillA View Post
    not part of a whiz test is it?
    never tested, but rather variable depending on . . . . . .
    No whiz test, just some interesting studies I've done pertaining to this subject. Dopamine levels have an eerie ability to affect our belief systems. If I had to guess I would suspect Tom has a family history of Parkinson's, or a lack of Dopamine. But that's just my speculations.

    Be careful my friend, sometimes ego is pervasive and hard to detect, especially under the influence. The alcoholic who swears he can put it down any time for instance. I'm not speaking to addiction, just common sense.

    Again, very interesting conversation.

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    we all like to think of ourselves as 'normal', sometimes that is not so
    for example, I am apparently not prone/subject to addiction; tobacco, alcohol, pot are stopped at will w/o distress (do not drink now or smoke tobacy)
    yet my family is 90% alcoholic ??
    I think it is a mental thing - and why much else is suppressed I suppose

    edit: I probaply should have said sense of identity instead of ego
    Last edited by BillA; May 15, 2019 at 03:15 PM. Reason: added info

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ditlihi View Post
    . . . . some interesting studies I've done pertaining to this subject. Dopamine levels have an eerie ability to affect our belief systems. . .
    care to share?

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    the one fighting with the turtle?
    kinda up on its back . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillA View Post
    care to share?


    I think they are posted here somewhere from years back, and on another forum, will have to see if I can find them.

    Too lazy and far away from my files to type it all out again.

    Joseph (Real of Tayopa) and a few others from my Ancients thread are familiar with them though, and conversant on this subject in particular. Would love for them to chime in.

    Eh, Jefe? Join us?


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    Found where I posted the study about Dopamine.....


    "Tuning into" TREASURES...


    An interesting thread in itself.
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    digging, this? "Tuning into" TREASURES...
    am reading, still no dilithium

    edit: lol
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