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  1. #1
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    Mar 2010
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    I'm Coming Back for More!

    I just booked my flight on Hawaiian Airlines to come back for more bottlin!

    I'll be on Oahu for only a couple days - or more importantly, nights - in early May

    Hope to see some of you guys out in the Tar Pits

  2. #2
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    Nov 2009
    OAHU, HAWAII
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    Re: I'm Coming Back for More!

    HOPEFULLY SEE YOU THERE...808KAZ
    Aloha...808kaz

  3. #3
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    Mar 2010
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    Re: I'm Coming Back for More!

    My Hawaii bottlin trip is now over and I have to say it was a success

    I landed on Friday at 11:00 and by noon I was already up in the Koolau Mountains checking out our first potential bottlin spot. We thrashed around in the jungle for a couple hours and finally found a spot that looked good for a test hole. The bottles were a mix of old and new. We found pieces of an old Honolulu Brewing Company, an Enterprize Soda Works and a Consolidated Soda Works (H.I. crown top). Unfortunately, the only good BIMAL we found was one of those little cobalt blue Japanese (medicine?) bottles with the T.M. on the bottom - these are mentioned in "The Book" as NOT being from T.Machida. We also brought home a couple of Honolulu T.H. Cokes.

    We then moved on to our primary night digging spot. We decided to go big on our first hole since we had three bottlers - my brother, his friend and me. We dug down about 2 feet and hit the hardest layer I've ever encountered anywhere. It was black and seemed to be a mass of rocks glued together by tar - kind of like asphault, but harder! It covered the entire bottom of our hole and our pick and o'o just bounced right off of it with a shower of sparks! At best we could only chip away at it, so we picked a corner that seemed softer than the rest and spent an hour trying to smash through. We dug a small pocket down about a foot and never found the bottom. In other words, we were screwed!

    We had three options: 1) give up and go home, 2) move sideways and hope to find the edge or 3) start a new hole. It was 10:30PM and we finally decided to start a new hole. My brother and his friend filled the first hole while I started the second one. We were in a grim mood, but determined to continue. The second hole went well until we got down to the dump layer around 2:00AM. It looked like normal dump layer for the area, but there were hardly any bottles. We dug until dawn, but only about a dozen bottles came out and none of them were very good.

    So ended the first 24 hours of my 48 hour trip. All I had to show for my efforts was a little french perfume bottle - not good!

    I've got to go to lunch now, I'll post the rest when I get back - with lots of pictures!!!

  4. #4
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    Mar 2010
    Historic Saratoga CA
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    Re: I'm Coming Back for More!

    Day 2 started with......sleep :P

    Got to bed around 7:30AM and slept until 1:00PM. Then it was off to the North Shore to check out a spot that I had been told about by another collector. BTW - big mahalos for the info!

    We had good directions and satellite photos from Google Maps to back them up. Unfortunately, there have been several new roads put in since the Google photos were taken and we got a bit lost at first. After driving about for a bit we figured it out and found the spot. It looks like a mix of old BIMAL bottles with newer stuff maybe up to the 60's or so. We were only there to look though and didn't break out the tools.

    We then checked out another spot my brother heard about on the NS, but it looks like it's completely dug out. Too bad too, it looked like some good stuff based on the broken glass on the surface!

    A quick drive back over the hill and we were back at our night time spot (not the Tar Pits!). We quickly picked our spot and started digging with enthusiasm. About a foot down I recieved a big surprise. While I was blasting through some hard coral fill with the o'o, I suddenly hit a void and the o'o dropped down into the Earth.

    I was shocked, we were already a foot down and the o'o is 5 feet long. My brother thought we had just hit the undermine from an old hole, but we both knew that the bottom of the dump layer there was only about 4 feet down. Well, we couldn't afford to lose the use of our o'o so early in the dig, so we dug down to look for it. It hadn't gone far, and we quickly found the blade portion a few inches below the floor of our hole. To my surprize, I couldn't pull it out because it was wedged in by a couple of small pieces of coral. I grabbed the hook probe to pop them lose, but I pinched the top of the o'o with my other hand just in case. Sure enough, when the pebble popped loose the o'o started to drop again. I held on tight and managed to pull it up - thank god!

    We avoided that corner of the hole and kept digging down. When we were down about 3 feet we found a weird plastic cap in the same corner of the hole and removed it. Under it was a void that went all the way down to the water table - about 7 feet - and didn't stop there. Our best guess is that someone drilled down at least 10 feet with an auger, capped the hole 3 feet down and then filled the top of the hole with gravel. The plastic cap was designed to pass water, so I guess it was intended to provide water drainage?

    We looked down into this hole and saw......bottles! Lots and lots of bottles stacked one on top of the other. I had never seen so many bottles exposed in such a small area. The auger hole was only about 8 to 10 inches in diameter and I counted at least 5 intact bottles exposed in the sides and several more that had been broken by the auger. If the bottles were that thick under our entire hole I estimated that we were going to pull between 300 and 400 bottles!

    The dump layer turned out to be good, but not quite THAT good. We ended up pulling 115 intact BIMAL bottles that night, about 35 of which were keepers. We left 80 pefectly good BIMAL bottles in the bush next to the hole for other folks to take home if they want. These mostly consisted of blank beer, sake, champagn and wine bottles. There was also a soy pot, some small aqua condiment bottles and some slightly damaged embossed bottles. Here's a somewhat blurry picture of them next to their bush.

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  5. #5
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    Mar 2010
    Historic Saratoga CA
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    Re: I'm Coming Back for More!

    Here are a few pictures of the keepers:

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  6. #6
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    Re: I'm Coming Back for More!

    Quote Originally Posted by sodetraveler
    Here are a few pictures of the keepers:

    Wow Nice find, locating a virgin area ... must have been hard work pulling those out. Are you coming to the meeting tonight? Would like to hear more. Thanks...

  7. #7
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    Mar 2010
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    Re: I'm Coming Back for More!

    So, this was the last night of my visit and I had to be at the airport by 11:00AM to catch my flight back to San Jose. It was now 4:00AM and neither my brother or I had yet found any BIMAL Hawaiian bottles. Don't get me wrong, I love all BIMAL bottles (even if I can't afford to keep them all anymore), but if we don't get any Hawaiian BIMALs during a dig it is invariably considered to be a failure! We were planning to fill the hole around 5:00AM, so I was down to the last hour. :P

    At 4:05 our luck changed, I exposed the 3/4 round base of a sode. It was most likely a Hollister, but was it even whole? Indeed it was - #212 in The Book. It was less than 5 minutes into my turn and I got out to let my brother take over. 10 minutes later he started working on what he thought was a Cod Marble, but instead turned out to be a Hawaiian inside screw - #139!!!

    I hopped back in and quickly exposed what I at first thought was another sode, but instead turned out to be a Hollister medicine - #887 (the 5.5" tall one). At this point it was getting light and the birds were all chirping. It was time to fill the hole. My brother and I looked at each other - and looked at how much of the hole had yet to be dug - and decided to stay and dig into the morning hours.

    We found many more bottles - and I almost got a Hollister marble - but alas no more intact Hawaiian BIMALs came out. We filled the hole around 8:30 after 12 hours of digging and went home to clean bottles - and to pack for my flight.

    Here's a picture of our prize Hawaiian bottles and another of my brother down in the hole. Sorry about the poor quality of most of the photos. My cell phone moves a bit when I press the button to take the picture. I obviously need more practice!

    I'll post pictures of the clean bottles.....soon.

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  8. #8
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    Mar 2010
    Historic Saratoga CA
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    Re: I'm Coming Back for More!

    Sorry I won't be able to make the meeting tonight. I'm currently 2500 miles away in San Jose California. Hopefully I'll be back again in August for another marathon dig.

    BTW - had visits by the popo both nights, but didn't get kicked out. Some times we just get lucky that way!

  9. #9
    us
    Nov 2009
    OAHU, HAWAII
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    Re: I'm Coming Back for More!

    Nice score...unbelievable how you found that hole...aloha 808kaz
    Aloha...808kaz

  10. #10
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    Mar 2010
    Historic Saratoga CA
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    Re: I'm Coming Back for More!

    I got my 2 Hawaiian BIMALs cleaned up. The other 2 belong to my brother, so I have to wait for him to provide pictures. It's probably going to take me a few more days to clean up the rest of the bottles

    Unfortunately, the Hollister sode is damaged

    I did have a great time digging it out though

    The Hollister med is in good shape. I've found TMs and KAs before, but I didn't even know they were Hawaiian. This is my first Hawaiian med with actaul Hawaiian words embossed on it
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  11. #11
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    Nov 2009
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    S/T, Still a nice Hollister and congratulations on that first medicine, amazing how fragile those meds are and finding one with no damage can be a challenge ...aloha 808kaz
    Aloha...808kaz

  12. #12
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    Mar 2010
    Historic Saratoga CA
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    Re: I'm Coming Back for More!

    Quote Originally Posted by 808kaz
    S/T, Still a nice Hollister and congratulations on that first medicine, amazing how fragile those meds are and finding one with no damage can be a challenge ...aloha 808kaz
    You may have noticed 2 dirty Hollister meds in one of my pictures. The shorter (and cleaner) one I dug up Sunday morning. The taller one on the right (#877, 6 inch tall) was found by my brother back in February right next to the Ahuimanu. It has so many cracks in it that he is afraid to clean it. I told him to just chance em. Sure it will probably fall apart - but I've got super glue!

  13. #13
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    Mar 2010
    Historic Saratoga CA
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    Finally Got Them Bottles Cleaned

    It took awhile, but I finally got all the dirt (etc.) cleaned off. Lots of variety here - and all BIMAL

    I especially like the cobalt cone ink. Never found one of those before!
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  14. #14
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    Saved the Best for Last

    Last - but far from least - my brother's Hawaiian Inside Screw

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  15. #15
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    Re: Saved the Best for Last

    Quote Originally Posted by sodetraveler
    Last - but far from least - my brother's Hawaiian Inside Screw

    Awesome finds Sensei! me still a "grasshopper" LMOO!

 

 
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