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May 23, 2011, 08:19 AM
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134 year old Carson City Silver sees the light again
Got out Sunday for a couple of hours with xGregx for a tearout hunt.
Finds were very sparse, but managed to come away with a keeper.
1877CC Seated Liberty Dime and a collar stud with pearlized pattern on it (not shown).
I need to figure out how to get the black crud off. If anyone has any ideas, let me know. It looks like tar, but fingernail polish remover didn't phase it.
Hope everyone is able to get out between the rain and storms that are headin our way
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May 23, 2011, 09:07 AM
#2
Re: 134 year old Carson City Silver sees the light again
Nice!
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May 23, 2011, 11:06 AM
#3
Re: 134 year old Carson City Silver sees the light again
NICE Find!!!! Did ya find it in the downtown area I drove thru there yesterday on my way home from the lake!
Told the spousal unit that this is my next local stop...I see ya beat me to it...as usual!
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May 23, 2011, 11:30 AM
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Re: 134 year old Carson City Silver sees the light again
 Originally Posted by vibes
NICE Find!!!! Did ya find it in the downtown area  I drove thru there yesterday on my way home from the lake!
Told the spousal unit that this is my next local stop...I see ya beat me to it...as usual!
Thanks Vibes,
Downtown area was the place, but not your space 
If I remember correctly, all of South Bend and Mishawaka is your hunting grounds so stay over there on your side of the line 
Not much to find down there in the city without a Heart. We found a few pieces of whats its and a couple of old rusted iron rail spikes from the trolley system from days of old. The original brick street is still there for now and the contractor is packing them on skids and shipping them out. That's probably the biggest treasure down there being revealed.
L8r
DJH
 Originally Posted by rc2125
Nice! 
Thanks Ryan
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May 23, 2011, 12:30 PM
#5
 Tuberale
Re: 134 year old Carson City Silver sees the light again
Black gunk is likely tar or oil sludge. Remove by using acetone, which reacts only with organic material. Safest material to use with delicate silver coins. Soak Q-tips in acetone, then gently rub in a clockwise or counter-clockwise direction. May take several Q-tips to clean. Roofing tar is especially difficult to remove.
BTW, very nice dime here. I'll look forward to seeing the cleaned photos, too. Looks to be in one of the higher grades, based on other elevated features.
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May 23, 2011, 12:42 PM
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Re: 134 year old Carson City Silver sees the light again
 Originally Posted by Tuberale
Black gunk is likely tar or oil sludge. Remove by using acetone, which reacts only with organic material. Safest material to use with delicate silver coins. Soak Q-tips in acetone, then gently rub in a clockwise or counter-clockwise direction. May take several Q-tips to clean. Roofing tar is especially difficult to remove.
BTW, very nice dime here. I'll look forward to seeing the cleaned photos, too. Looks to be in one of the higher grades, based on other elevated features.
Thanks Tuberale for the advice. I tried the nail polish remover and there was no luck.
The more I look at it the more I'm remembering that there was a nail in the hole with hit and these are most likely rust stains and not tar or oil sludge.
Definitely will post a pic. when I get it cleaned up. The details are very strong and looks as if it were dropped shortly after being in circulation.
DJH
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May 23, 2011, 12:54 PM
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Re: 134 year old Carson City Silver sees the light again
Awesome find, congrats and good luck cleaning it.
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May 23, 2011, 01:45 PM
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Re: 134 year old Carson City Silver sees the light again
DJH,
Look, you pilfered and pillaged a few of my parks...so ONE trip for me to the "heart" of it all is, well, expected and should be embraced with much gusto! 
In the meantime I'm taking the show on the road and doing as much P&P&P (pilfering, pillaging and perching) in the Buckeye state!
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May 23, 2011, 02:03 PM
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Re: 134 year old Carson City Silver sees the light again
 Originally Posted by vibes
DJH,
Look, you pilfered and pillaged a few of my parks...so ONE trip for me to the "heart" of it all is, well, expected and should be embraced with much gusto!
In the meantime I'm taking the show on the road and doing as much P&P&P (pilfering, pillaging and perching) in the Buckeye state!
ROFLMAO 
Well then Welcome to my Kingdom 
Good luck in the Buckeye state
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May 23, 2011, 07:21 PM
#10
 Tuberale
Re: 134 year old Carson City Silver sees the light again
 Originally Posted by diggin jimmy hoffa
Thanks Tuberale for the advice. I tried the nail polish remover and there was no luck.
The more I look at it the more I'm remembering that there was a nail in the hole with hit and these are most likely rust stains and not tar or oil sludge.
Definitely will post a pic. when I get it cleaned up. The details are very strong and looks as if it were dropped shortly after being in circulation.
DJH
Nail polish is probably acetone. But may not be 100%. If road tar, you may need 100% acetone.
Even with an iron nail next to the coin, there should be no rust stains on silver. So you have some other form of gunk there. Ever heard of Gunk-Off, an oil remover for auto mechanics? A possibility, but I have no idea whether it will damage silver.
Whatever you do, you sure don't want to hurt that beautiful lady! Don't see any mint luster on the coin, so likely below an AU50 grade. But certainly in the higher used category.
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May 25, 2011, 10:30 AM
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Re: 134 year old Carson City Silver sees the light again
Very nice find.
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May 25, 2011, 11:23 AM
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Re: 134 year old Carson City Silver sees the light again
 Originally Posted by DaveP.
Very nice find. 
Thanks and welcome to our little part of the Indiana Forum.
By chance, are you and Tuberdale related? You 2 look very much alike
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May 25, 2011, 11:27 AM
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 Tuberale
Re: 134 year old Carson City Silver sees the light again
Uh, that would be a no I think. Tuberdale is a valley where potatoes are grown. Maybe.
Tuberale is the scientific name for the true truffle family. I happen to have one named for me. Ergo, my on-line name.
But thanks for noticing our similarities.<G>
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May 25, 2011, 12:10 PM
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Re: 134 year old Carson City Silver sees the light again
 Originally Posted by Tuberale
Uh, that would be a no I think.
Just in a good mood and kidding around.
I tried some bug and tar remover on those black spots and it didn't even make a dent.
Going to try electrolysis. Gonna take it slow and keep a watchful eye on it during the procedure.
I'll post new pics. after I get it done.
HH
DJH
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May 25, 2011, 01:39 PM
#15
 Tuberale
Re: 134 year old Carson City Silver sees the light again
 Originally Posted by diggin jimmy hoffa
I tried some bug and tar remover on those black spots and it didn't even make a dent.
Going to try electrolysis. Gonna take it slow and keep a watchful eye on it during the procedure.
I'll post new pics. after I get it done.
HH
DJH
Electrolysis can cause burn marks at the anode/cathode. Please, no.
Uhm. Is the black area raised? Maybe the gunk is metal fused to the coin? Does it feel raised to the fingers?
If not raised try putting the coin on a hot stove burner. Heat by itself should not bother the coin. But might help getting the gunk off.
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May 25, 2011, 02:13 PM
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Re: 134 year old Carson City Silver sees the light again
 Originally Posted by Tuberale
 Originally Posted by diggin jimmy hoffa
I tried some bug and tar remover on those black spots and it didn't even make a dent.
Going to try electrolysis. Gonna take it slow and keep a watchful eye on it during the procedure.
I'll post new pics. after I get it done.
HH
DJH
Electrolysis can cause burn marks at the anode/cathode. Please, no.
Uhm. Is the black area raised? Maybe the gunk is metal fused to the coin? Does it feel raised to the fingers?
If not raised try putting the coin on a hot stove burner. Heat by itself should not bother the coin. But might help getting the gunk off.
The black spots are very slightly raised and are barely noticeable with my finger tip. I'm leaning more toward metal fusion being the culprit. I'll give the hot stove method a try first. Thnx for your input, as I don't want to ruin this little lady.
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May 25, 2011, 09:21 PM
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Re: 134 year old Carson City Silver sees the light again
I need to get my butt in gear. I drive by downtown every day,twice a day for that fact.and say that would be a good place to detect.
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May 26, 2011, 02:26 AM
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May 26, 2011, 10:08 AM
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Re: 134 year old Carson City Silver sees the light again
 Originally Posted by jersey devl
Thanks jersey devl, she was quite a surprise to find.
Greg dug what we thought was an Indian within 20 feet of my find and after he soaked it, found out is was a miserable wheatie 
 Originally Posted by smasher
I need to get my butt in gear. I drive by downtown every day,twice a day for that fact.and say that would be a good place to detect.
Smasher!!! You still around?
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May 26, 2011, 10:18 AM
#20
 Tuberale
Re: 134 year old Carson City Silver sees the light again
 Originally Posted by diggin jimmy hoffa
The black spots are very slightly raised and are barely noticeable with my finger tip. I'm leaning more toward metal fusion being the culprit. I'll give the hot stove method a try first. Thnx for your input, as I don't want to ruin this little lady.
If spots are from metal fusion, heating the coin should have no noticable effect.
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