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  1. #1
    us
    Jan 2009
    People of the South Wind
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    Help Iding?

    Hello, I showed this the on Native American Artifacts & someone suggested it might be a fossil of a Mammoth tooth?
    Just wondering, any help would be appreciated!

    8)
    Thx
    Phil

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  2. #2
    us
    Dec 2010
    NW Arkansas
    26

    Re: Help Iding?

    Has a mammoth/mastodon tooth look to me.

  3. #3
    us
    Jan 2009
    People of the South Wind
    271
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    Re: Help Iding?

    Thx, I've been looking at pics on the web & thats what I'm leaning towards!
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  4. #4
    us
    Feb 2009
    Northcentral Florida
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    Re: Help Iding?

    The object doesn't look anything like a mastodon or a mammoth tooth to me. The unbroken side reminds me of a coprolite from a shark with a spiral cloacal valve. I don't know what to make of the splintered side 'cause the image is too dark.
    Help Iding?-mastodonjuvcap.jpgHelp Iding?-mammothmilkteeth.jpg
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  5. #5
    us
    Jan 2009
    People of the South Wind
    271
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: Help Iding?

    Down by the persons thumb is what I was talking about it looks like it might be similar, but thanks for the input!
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  6. #6
    us
    Feb 2009
    Northcentral Florida
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    Re: Help Iding?

    Yes, I considered the possibility of a mammoth fragment with the cementum still in place.

    Now that I look closer at your image, I think I see a pattern of spikes - like teeth - on the rounded surface. You may have a shell fragment, or more likely, a fragment of a bivalve internal cast (or steinkern).
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  7. #7
    us
    Feb 2011
    North Carolina
    71
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    Re: Help Iding?

    That is not a megalodon (shark's) tooth.

    From the angle, it looks like it belongs to an herbivore, and while it may be a molar, it looks like it came from a little closer to the front of the mouth. What are the dimensions? If it's thin, it may be a shell, but the patterns sure look like tooth cusps to me.

  8. #8
    us
    Jul 2011
    11

    Re: Help Iding?

    Where was it found?? I.E What state or what part of state? That helps narrow it down somewhat,,

  9. #9
    us
    Jul 2011
    Moncks Corner, SC.
    Tesoro, Tejon land and Fisher, 1280x water
    64
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    Re: Help Iding?

    I agree with Harry and think coprolite fossilize ( poop! ).
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  10. #10
    us
    Aug 2011
    North Carolina
    721

    Re: Help Iding?

    What do you all think about it being part of a fossilized ear of a porpoise or whale called the bulla. Below is a pic of a fossil whale bulla and notice the thin rounded area that kinda compares to your pic above. Just my opinion without seeing it in person.
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  11. #11
    us
    Feb 2009
    Northcentral Florida
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    Re: Help Iding?

    Here are shark and other coprolites for comparison:

    Help Iding?-coprolitesharkbonevalleyb.jpgHelp Iding?-gatorcoprolitesa.jpgHelp Iding?-coprolitea.jpg
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  12. #12
    us
    Aug 2011
    North Carolina
    721

    Re: Help Iding?

    Pristis.

    That's some fine looking crap you have there!

    Maybe the original pic is of crap or maybe an ear or maybe a tooth. It's a little hard to determine without seeing it in person. My thoughts on the ear bulla was because it appears to be quite thin. I have some coprolite but my pieces are from turtles and other small creatures so it looks nothing like the pieces I have.

  13. #13
    us
    Feb 2009
    Northcentral Florida
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    Re: Help Iding?

    Naw . . . forget all those wild guesses, including mine. This object is a section of steinkern of an ammonoid. I'm confident the broken faces would show more evidence of ammonoid.
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  14. #14
    us
    Feb 2009
    Fort Worth, Tx
    38

    Re: Help Iding?

    Most of the ammonites you see are very orderly, precise, and proportioned in terms of the ribs and overall shape. But, there are some species out there that are anything but orderly and almost appear like genetic screwups with crazy random variations in ribs and what-not.

 

 

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