Stone tool (hide scraper) with fish fossils?

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I found this what i believe to be a native American hide scraper? I am no expert but there appears to be use wear on the edge? Also scars from the flaking process? Anybody got any feedback for me? I am still learning as this is my first find. I find myself going back to the area along the Santa Ana River here in Riverside ca looking for more but none yet besides this one. Notice all the fossils along the flaked surfaces.
 

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The Grim Reaper

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It looks like a large piece of Basalt but I'm not seeing any evidence on it of it ever being altered or used by man by what I can see in your photos.
 

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Third photo from the right. Do you not see the scar from the hammer stone strike. First photo two flake strikes left side of the pic, I will post some more pics and illustrate what I see,
 

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Just a rock... not a tool. There are also no fossils in it that I see.
 

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First off it comes from an area known for large amounts of limonite. I know im not dealing with the blind the fossils are plain as day. The third pic shows a scar from a strike.
 

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here are two pics one showing wear on the blade the other showing the scar from the hammer stone sorry about the document disregard i didnt know how to delete that single pic
 

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Sorry, not seeing any thing that says it is indian artifact.
 

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First off it comes from an area known for large amounts of limonite. I know im not dealing with the blind the fossils are plain as day. The third pic shows a scar from a strike.

We have a fossil section in TNet, and they'll be able to inform you there that there are no fish fossils showing. The ripples you see often form when a rock shatters. They're not fossils. I'm not an authority but fossils were my first love, and I've collected them for many decades. I'm not seeing any fossils in your rock; I believe you're mistaken in that regard. Post it in the fossil category and see what folks there have to say...
 

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look close at the first pick there is a fish section from gill to tail including fins. Third pic some kind of exoskeleton. Last photo your looking at a bottom view of a catfish complete with the spikes.. I am surprized someone who knows fossils doesn't see them. I have showed many people and after pointing them out they become obvious.
 

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look close at the first pick there is a fish section from gill to tail including fins. Third pic some kind of exoskeleton. Last photo your looking at a bottom view of a catfish complete with the spikes.. I am surprized someone who knows fossils doesn't see them. I have showed many people and after pointing them out they become obvious.

Not...a...fossil. Not...a...scraper. However, if you choose to believe, and disregard others' considered opinions, it's a free country.
 

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I can take the not a scraper but when you say no fossils you lose all credibility they are plain as a nose on a face
 

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You should avoid smoking that legal stuff it make people hallucinate.
No fossil no artifact consensus, imagination.
 

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U C Riverside says it is not a tool made by man but looks to be used by man. Also it has many aquatic fossils
Fact it is all fossil
Maybe you should get some glasses and look again. No need for the sarcastic comments
It is OK if you can't see well enough to discern fossils from wavy lines. Try clicking on the pics so they expand
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What general area in the river did you find it ?, you know how many stones are in the river and the massive amount of materiel that is churned up year after year. I don't see any fossils in that stone.
 

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the marine fossils you are seeing are "spall" marks from the fracture point. These marks are very common on this type of stone.
 

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