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    Ivory, gold and stones (What kind?)

    I paid $2 at an estate sale. Its tiny, but gold is gold. Both the clasp (hole side) and the ring that holds the pendant to the chain are marked 14K. The spring side of the clasp is a replacement and is not gold. The chain really thin, it's got a couple of knots that I think I'm just going to leave for the buyer to mess with. I think the heart is ivory, if you have other ideas I'm open to them. I have no idea what the stones may be.
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    Re: Ivory, gold and stones (What kind?)

    looks like ruby, sapphire and emerald. that is a great find!!
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    Re: Ivory, gold and stones (What kind?)

    I had a girlfriend at one time who had a small chain necklace that got knots in it. I used a magnafying glass, (her holding it), and me using 2 needles to unknot the chain. It worked without breaking the chain.

    You might try that.
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    Re: Ivory, gold and stones (What kind?)

    Quote Originally Posted by cntrydncr1
    looks like ruby, sapphire and emerald. that is a great find!!
    Yeah , I am 99.9% sure your right an they are real stones... If it is real Ivory that is some really old jewelery.... but I am not sure you can sell it .... can you take a super close pic of the heart?
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    Re: Ivory, gold and stones (What kind?)

    Quote Originally Posted by creeper71
    Quote Originally Posted by cntrydncr1
    looks like ruby, sapphire and emerald. that is a great find!!
    Yeah , I am 99.9% sure your right an they are real stones... If it is real Ivory that is some really old jewelery.... but I am not sure you can sell it .... can you take a super close pic of the heart?
    Hey HarleyMan, I played with it a little bit, but no GF to hold a magnifier.

    Wow Cntrydncr1 and creeper71, that would be very cool if it really was 3 rubies, a sapphire and an emerald! I'm not positive it's ivory, it just strikes me that way. below are the best images I could get; 4 mp camera on tripod with a wireless remote to prevent camera shake. Diffused lighting. Rotated, cropped close and downsized to 850 pixels wide.

    I'm guessing a date for this as between 1907 and 1922. The chain has a mark that could be the Attleboro Chain Co., founded in 1907 and renamed to Marathon in 1922.
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    Re: Ivory, gold and stones (What kind?)

    I am not a expert on this type of stuff, but I have very basic knowledge... I beleive it maybe some type of bone maybe whale bone
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    Re: Ivory, gold and stones (What kind?)

    Gorgeous, absolutely gorgeous, those stones all look real to me, wonderful find!!!!! [color=red]Red
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    Re: Ivory, gold and stones (What kind?)

    Are those stones raw? They almost look uncut.
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    Re: Ivory, gold and stones (What kind?)

    Beautiful item! Pour out a little baby powder on a plate and roll the chain around in it. The knots will come out easily. You can used the heated pin trick to see if the ivory is real.

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    Re: Ivory, gold and stones (What kind?)

    Quote Originally Posted by Rooter
    Beautiful item! Pour out a little baby powder on a plate and roll the chain around in it. The knots will come out easily. You can used the heated pin trick to see if the ivory is real.
    I believe it's bone.. possiblly whale
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    Re: Ivory, gold and stones (What kind?)

    Well spotted batcap!
    A well educated guess (30 years in jewellery trade) is that these are natural gemstones. Sapphire, ruby and emerald. To get the knots out of the chain just roll the knotted area of chain firmly between thumb and fingers, works every time to loosen the knot.

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    Re: Ivory, gold and stones (What kind?)

    If your selling it on ebay, do not claim it to be ivory, it will be removed. Been there done that.

    Ivory or bone
    Though there a few exceptions, most ivory products can't be offered on eBay because of various international trade restrictions and treaties banning the sale of these items. You can find additional information about ivory laws below.


    Restricted
    Antiques that contain 5 percent or less of real ivory and were made before the year 1900 – for example:

    Musical instruments with ivory keys, such as a flute, a piano, or a trumpet

    Furniture with ivory inlay or ivory drawer handles, such as a cabinet, a hutch, or a desk

    When selling these items:

    Include a picture of the item in your listing

    Specify the exact year the item was made and include the info in your listing description

    Bone from non-ivory–producing animals (such as bison, buffalo, and oxen) as long as the species is clearly stated in the listing description

    Cultured, man-made, or vegetable ivory as long as the listing description specifies what the item is made of



    Not allowed
    Bone from animals that produce ivory, including elephants, mammoths, walruses, and whales

    Carved and uncarved ivory

    Fossilized ivory

    Manufactured items with more than 5 percent of actual ivory such as:

    Canes

    Chess pieces

    Figurines

    Jewelry

    Scrimshaw

    Raw ivory

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    Re: Ivory, gold and stones (What kind?)

    Quote Originally Posted by diggummup
    If your selling it on ebay, do not claim it to be ivory, it will be removed. Been there done that.

    Ivory or bone
    Though there a few exceptions, most ivory products can't be offered on eBay because of various international trade restrictions and treaties banning the sale of these items. You can find additional information about ivory laws below.


    Restricted
    Antiques that contain 5 percent or less of real ivory and were made before the year 1900 – for example:

    Musical instruments with ivory keys, such as a flute, a piano, or a trumpet

    Furniture with ivory inlay or ivory drawer handles, such as a cabinet, a hutch, or a desk

    When selling these items:

    Include a picture of the item in your listing

    Specify the exact year the item was made and include the info in your listing description

    Bone from non-ivory–producing animals (such as bison, buffalo, and oxen) as long as the species is clearly stated in the listing description

    Cultured, man-made, or vegetable ivory as long as the listing description specifies what the item is made of



    Not allowed
    Bone from animals that produce ivory, including elephants, mammoths, walruses, and whales

    Carved and uncarved ivory

    Fossilized ivory

    Manufactured items with more than 5 percent of actual ivory such as:

    Canes

    Chess pieces

    Figurines

    Jewelry

    Scrimshaw

    Raw ivory

    I personally WOULDN'T sell this on ebay at all!!
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  14. #14
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    Re: Ivory, gold and stones (What kind?)

    Thanks to all of you for your suggestions. Hopefully I won't have to resort to eBay. At Creeper's suggestion I sent the pic's to Heritage Auctions( http://www.ha.com ) . Maybe they will buy or consign it to an upcoming auction. I read up a bit and decided against the hot pin trick; I'm confident it's not plastic, and the lines on the back that run from the upper left to the bottom might be Schreger lines. See here: http://blog.rubylane.com/node/1028


 

 

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