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  1. #1

    Apr 2008
    245

    What would you do ?

    Me and a buddy go out early in the woods, in an area known for producing a good number of Civil War relics, and older items. We've both his this area numerous times, and keep finding new evidence of structures that existed, roads etc. My buddy hollers at me and is standing next to a rock, sticking up out of the ground. He asks if it looks like an ordinary rock, or if it looks like a grave marker.



    As you look around, you notice several more in the area.



    Then you notice one with engraving still legible, with deaths back into the mid 1860's. The others appear much older. You have stumbled onto a graveyard, and count at least 25 marked graves. Some if them show evidence of the caskets rotting away, leaving indentations in the ground. Do you keep digging, or move on ?

  2. #2
    us
    Apr 2009
    NW OHIO
    Ace 250/Vibraprobe 580
    156

    Re: What would you do ?

    personally i would move on but my grandfather was an undertaker so i have alot of respect for the dead

  3. #3
    us
    Feb 2008
    Prairieville, Louisiana
    Explorer SE, Explorer II, Whites DFX
    582

    Re: What would you do ?

    I wouldnt dig on top of the graves, but I definitely hunt around them.
    "The best discriminator is a shovel"

  4. #4
    us
    Dec 2007
    Charlottesville, Virginia
    White's DFX, White's Prism II, Tesoro Sand Shark
    213

    Re: What would you do ?

    Gotta keep moving. What if someone has family there and they came to visit and saw you crouched over a grave digging? Not worth it.

  5. #5
    us
    Jul 2008
    Virginia Beach
    Excal 2 and E Trac
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    Banner Finds (2)

    Re: What would you do ?

    If I were in that situation, I would do a few things. I would of course remain outside the area that has been hallowed with the remains of those that came before. I would also consider mentioning to the owner what is there, and perhaps work with him/her to conserve and preserve the site. Was there a church nearby, or are these the graves of soliders? Since you mention there were caskets, I assume this is not a battlefield cemetery. Are you able to read the names on the stones? I believe that the memories of our ancestors should be preserved and their resting places honored. While I understand we do not dig 6 foot holes, I still prefer to remain a reasonable distance away. I do not mind hunting near them, but not on top of them.
    Anthony
    It is amazing what men will do for an extra inch.

  6. #6
    us
    Dec 2007
    between Cadillac and Big Rapids
    whites 6000 & spectrum
    223

    Re: What would you do ?

    I think you will not hurt any thing , most detectors only go 9 inches deep. You should not hit any bodys!!!! I would keep looking but I would never go into a moderen grave yard.
    I am addicted to Metal-detecting. 30 years experence.

  7. #7
    us
    Jun 2008
    NJ
    Minelab Explorer XS Minelab E-trac
    172
    Banner Finds (2)

    Re: What would you do ?

    I would keep detecting around the site but not ontop of the grave sites. It seems like too good of a spot . You wont be digging more than 8-10 inches, no harm done. I woul give it a try. Keep us posted.
    Marty

  8. #8
    us
    Jul 2006
    3,234
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: What would you do ?

    I wouldn't be doing any digging on the graves that is for sure!

    Maybe the area away from the graves.

  9. #9
    us
    Apr 2008
    CT
    White's M6
    128

    Re: What would you do ?

    If you have permission...dig anything you'd like

    You won't get haunted, and won't hit any bodies.

    Lucky

  10. #10
    us
    Jan 2009
    Upstate New York
    Compass X-80 Challenger, Yukon 77B Professional
    627

    Re: What would you do ?

    I would avoid the immediate area of the graves. Around them or nearby ok. Let the owner know about the graves. Be sure sure to cover your tracks and fill all and any holes you dig.
    I recently found a few cellar holes which I had been detecting around. Upon returning the last time, I saw that someone else had the same idea as myself. The only thing wrong was the person or people had dug large holes and left them without filling them back up. Because of this, I am reluctant to return to the area in fear of being blamed for the unfilled holes. Some people, besides creating dangerous booby traps, have no respect for property and I myself hope they get caught. It's people like that that make it bad for all of us. In regard to gravesites, you have a much greater responsibility. If you dig any where near these graves, be sure to leave the area the way it was when you came upon it. If you get caught defacing the area around graves, you'll probably be facing jail time. I would tread very carefully in that area.
    HH

    John
    John from Upstate New York

  11. #11
    us
    Mar 2009
    Olympia Wa
    White's Id10t
    172

    Re: What would you do ?

    dig dig dig, maby they have gold teeth!! jk, if its abandon and in the middle of the woods i would detect anywhere you want. just dont dig too deep!
    what ever your looking for, KEEP DIGGING! Dank

  12. #12

    Apr 2008
    245

    Re: What would you do ?

    We left the area alone....for now anyway. I'm going to try and pull up some old maps, and see if it shows if it was a church, or if it is a family plot. I'm guessing a church since there are so many, but it could have been several generations of a family, since the area was settled in the 1720's.

    There wasn't any real concern for a family member, or anyone else walking up, since the area is at least a mile and a half from any existing structure, or paved road. I've been working this area for over a year, and haven't seen anyone else out in the woods.

    There were about 5 or 6 legible names on one stone, but unfortunately the family name was Smith. Google just kept turning out tons of Andrew Smith, and Julia Smith hits. We plan on taking some paper and charcoal with us next time to see if we can read anything by taking some rubbings of the older markers.

    I guess the good karma paid off, because we left the graveyard, went about 100 yards over the hill, and plucked a musket buttplate, a dozen .31, .58 and .69 cal bullets, and a copper grommet out of the dirt.

  13. #13
    Charter Member
    us
    da book worm--researcher

    Feb 2007
    callahan,fl
    delta 4000 / ace 250 - used BH and many others too
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    Re: What would you do ?

    leave it alone --you said there appears to be rotting caskets* for you to see that they must be at or near the surface --meaning the cover soil has washed off leaving the graves very very shallow --- I 'd back off the area RIGHT AWAY -TAKING NOTHING AT ALL FROM THAT SPOT -- and say I'm very sorry if I distrubed your rest. --- I would inform the land own of the fact that there are graves in the area so he can have them offically "recorded" and possibly "recovered " with some fresh dirt to prevent animals from getting into the coffins to knaw on the bones of the dead for the calcium in them.

    I am proud of you in your actions in staying out of clearly "known" hallowed ground -- the "modern" kinfolk of those dead may not come to visit due to the fact that they do not know where their great great grand pappy / granny was buried at --you might have helped folks fill in missing branches in their family trees.

  14. #14

    Re: What would you do ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ivan salis
    leave it alone --you said there appears to be rotting caskets* for you to see that they must be at or near the surface --meaning the cover soil has washed off leaving the graves very very shallow --- I 'd back off the area RIGHT AWAY -TAKING NOTHING AT ALL FROM THAT SPOT -- and say I'm very sorry if I distrubed your rest. --- I would inform the land own of the fact that there are graves in the area so he can have them offically "recorded" and possibly "recovered " with some fresh dirt to prevent animals from getting into the coffins to knaw on the bones of the dead for the calcium in them.

    I am proud of you in your actions in staying out of clearly "known" hallowed ground -- the "modern" kinfolk of those dead may not come to visit due to the fact that they do not know where their great great grand pappy / granny was buried at --you might have helped folks fill in missing branches in their family trees.
    well said, I agree with all of the above
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  15. #15

    Re: What would you do ?

    DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD?! There is your answer.
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  16. #16
    us
    Jul 2004
    Shelbyville or any yard where the owner will let me detect!
    ace 250
    19,775
    3 times
    Metal Detecting
    Banner Finds (1)

    Re: What would you do ?

    I have detected on the outskirts of cemeteries,
    but i'll never detect in one, so leave it alone...
    ALLEN

  17. #17
    RPG
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    us
    Jan 2009
    Alabama
    Silver Umax, Compadre, Vaquero
    2,169
    1 times

    Re: What would you do ?

    Do the research and find the church and old homesites in the area. Hunt those places and stay away from the graves.
    Randy

  18. #18
    us
    Aug 2008
    Virginia
    GARRETT GTAx 550
    1,518

    Re: What would you do ?

    I know that you will do the right thing dcinffxva, Just because you asked the question and the
    opinion of others.There is nothing wrong with detecting around the outside of the cemetery.
    But leave the burial site alone.(Respect the dead and their resting place).Keep us informed
    with the outcome of your adventure.
    Happy hunting


    fortbball9

  19. #19
    Charter Member
    us
    Sep 2006
    Montana
    11,670
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    Banner Finds (1)

    Re: What would you do ?

    This is just a part of the Shermanville list of posts he would normally throw into one of these topics concerning cemtary hunting since the question gets asked about once a month.

    I post these in his memory - I miss ya Sherm - come on back to T-Net!

    http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...,215653.0.html
    http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...c,61363.0.html
    http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...c,64213.0.html
    http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...c,71897.0.html
    http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...c,52824.0.html
    http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...c,35096.0.html
    http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...c,52327.0.html
    http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...ic,6911.0.html
    http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...c,70182.0.html
    http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...c,89783.0.html
    http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...,122835.0.html
    http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...,142739.0.html

    I think you might have found something more valuable than a place to hunt, you should back out and report the location to the landowner, possibly see about sprucing it back up, documenting the finds, and play like the concerned citizen who found an old cemetary... it might matter to someone. That kind of publicity might bring a community together, and would possitively reflect on you as adetectorist AND the hobby as we are folks who not only like to discover the past but also CARE about the past and preserving it! That is what I would do...


  20. #20
    us
    Feb 2009
    Bounty Hunter, ACE 250 with 9X12 coil
    1,672

    Re: What would you do ?

    gps the area and do some research, then the doubt can be clear

 

 
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