Be Extra Careful in Bear Country

[kuger]

OK, I'm going to give my 2 cents worth here, and I stress this is only MY opinion. I think what SS is getting at is killing for enjoyment as opposed to killing for food or defense. If a bear or, in our case, a slightly annoyed rabbit, was in the vicinity I would want protection . I do not live in a gun culture, having said that I do not have a problem with guns or hunting for food, but my experience with guns goes only to my service in the Royal Navy and game shoots, so I cannot identify with the choice of weaponry that you guys talk about. But, being serious for a minute, if I were hiking through Yellowstone or somewhere in Alaska, I would go armed if I could, and with something that would do the job, having said that, I would not go out of my way to actively hunt a bear or any animal for fun. Kuger and H-d-p (I hope you don't mind me using initials) (bugger, I could have written your whole name several times by now) also make very good points, if not slightly inflammatory, but also intended to illicit a response in a kind of way that I hope was tongue in cheek. To sum up for me, killing for food=OK, killing for defense=OK, killing for the sake of killing=psycho and you need help, shooting an animal to cause distress and pain=psycho and you need help. I hope this makes my point clear, but living in such different cultures, sometimes what we say gets taken the wrong way, so no harm or insult implied or intended to all. Be safe


hammered

Excellent post sir.

I do not hunt and I never have, though I do support others rights to do so. The state of Georgia has the 2nd largest deer herd in the US behind Texas. Bears are Godless Killing Machines no doubt, but deer are by far the most deadly animal in America. They are responsible for killing an average of 130 Americans per year due to traffic accidents. I'm sure Silver Searcher will probably counter with the argument that humans have no business driving cars and we should all use our legs as our primary form of transportation, or that the roads we built have infringed on the deer's natural habitat or some other nonsense, but the fact is that the deer population needs to be "managed", and if some guy can get his rocks off and at the same time put some meat on the family table by blasting one to Kingdom Come then I'm all for it.

That's the difference between our two cultures, we don't let the buggers drive. But seriously though, SS can fight his own corner, he is an intelligent man, I know, I have known him for some years now. And, from your posts I deduce you are a man of culture too. So, to the point.............Hunting, in my opinion is OK, better than slaughter houses. Defense is OK, better than dying . Living in an harmonious existance , where man and beast can coexist, taking into the mix human advancement is OK. But it is also our roll to protect and defend Gods creatures and habitats. I am not a "Tree Hugger" but I do love nature, I do shoot and I do protect wildlife and wont Kill for fun. When I do shoot, I eat what I kill. So, for the sake of harmony, and cos I know him, give SS a chance, he really is a good bloke if you don't annoy him.


Take care H-d-p and hh


hammered

Now,that is an awesome post!!I wish I could put it into words that way!!
Colin and I became buds through one of these very "disputes",and he is the only Brit involved that seen through where I was coming from and even gives me the time of day,and I respect him for that.My entire life has been devoted to wildlife,in all facets,and as anybody can see,I am kind of "passionate",about it.Only it and mining have I enjoyed and made a living from!

 

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[hammered]

OK, I'm going to give my 2 cents worth here, and I stress this is only MY opinion. I think what SS is getting at is killing for enjoyment as opposed to killing for food or defense. If a bear or, in our case, a slightly annoyed rabbit, was in the vicinity I would want protection . I do not live in a gun culture, having said that I do not have a problem with guns or hunting for food, but my experience with guns goes only to my service in the Royal Navy and game shoots, so I cannot identify with the choice of weaponry that you guys talk about. But, being serious for a minute, if I were hiking through Yellowstone or somewhere in Alaska, I would go armed if I could, and with something that would do the job, having said that, I would not go out of my way to actively hunt a bear or any animal for fun. Kuger and H-d-p (I hope you don't mind me using initials) (bugger, I could have written your whole name several times by now) also make very good points, if not slightly inflammatory, but also intended to illicit a response in a kind of way that I hope was tongue in cheek. To sum up for me, killing for food=OK, killing for defense=OK, killing for the sake of killing=psycho and you need help, shooting an animal to cause distress and pain=psycho and you need help. I hope this makes my point clear, but living in such different cultures, sometimes what we say gets taken the wrong way, so no harm or insult implied or intended to all. Be safe


hammered

Excellent post sir.

I do not hunt and I never have, though I do support others rights to do so. The state of Georgia has the 2nd largest deer herd in the US behind Texas. Bears are Godless Killing Machines no doubt, but deer are by far the most deadly animal in America. They are responsible for killing an average of 130 Americans per year due to traffic accidents. I'm sure Silver Searcher will probably counter with the argument that humans have no business driving cars and we should all use our legs as our primary form of transportation, or that the roads we built have infringed on the deer's natural habitat or some other nonsense, but the fact is that the deer population needs to be "managed", and if some guy can get his rocks off and at the same time put some meat on the family table by blasting one to Kingdom Come then I'm all for it.

That's the difference between our two cultures, we don't let the buggers drive. But seriously though, SS can fight his own corner, he is an intelligent man, I know, I have known him for some years now. And, from your posts I deduce you are a man of culture too. So, to the point.............Hunting, in my opinion is OK, better than slaughter houses. Defense is OK, better than dying . Living in an harmonious existance , where man and beast can coexist, taking into the mix human advancement is OK. But it is also our roll to protect and defend Gods creatures and habitats. I am not a "Tree Hugger" but I do love nature, I do shoot and I do protect wildlife and wont Kill for fun. When I do shoot, I eat what I kill. So, for the sake of harmony, and cos I know him, give SS a chance, he really is a good bloke if you don't annoy him.


Take care H-d-p and hh


hammered

Now,that is an awesome post!!I wish I could put it into words that way!!
Colin and I became buds through one of these very "disputes",and he is the only Brit involved that seen through where I was coming from and even gives me the time of day,and I respect him for that.My entire life has been devoted to wildlife,in all facets,and as anybody can see,I am kind of "passionate",about it.Only it and mining have I enjoyed and made a living from!

Maybe there are 2 Brits now


hammered

 

[kuger]

^^^^^Yes,I am darn glad to say that too!!! Two to go!!!

 

[Silver Searcher]

Hombre a Dagger to my heart, and I thought we were Friends I won't come back with your Deer comment, unlike you I have better things to do.
I'm going out into the Beautifull Yorkshire country side shortly, I will of course try to avoid the Deer with my car, you stay at home and drug some poor girl to lie on your rug, but be care full not to get knee rash
I hope you can understand my poor Englee-sh.

PS by the way I own you now

SS

 

[Silver Searcher]

OK, I'm going to give my 2 cents worth here, and I stress this is only MY opinion. I think what SS is getting at is killing for enjoyment as opposed to killing for food or defense. If a bear or, in our case, a slightly annoyed rabbit, was in the vicinity I would want protection . I do not live in a gun culture, having said that I do not have a problem with guns or hunting for food, but my experience with guns goes only to my service in the Royal Navy and game shoots, so I cannot identify with the choice of weaponry that you guys talk about. But, being serious for a minute, if I were hiking through Yellowstone or somewhere in Alaska, I would go armed if I could, and with something that would do the job, having said that, I would not go out of my way to actively hunt a bear or any animal for fun. Kuger and H-d-p (I hope you don't mind me using initials) (bugger, I could have written your whole name several times by now) also make very good points, if not slightly inflammatory, but also intended to illicit a response in a kind of way that I hope was tongue in cheek. To sum up for me, killing for food=OK, killing for defense=OK, killing for the sake of killing=psycho and you need help, shooting an animal to cause distress and pain=psycho and you need help. I hope this makes my point clear, but living in such different cultures, sometimes what we say gets taken the wrong way, so no harm or insult implied or intended to all. Be safe


hammered

Excellent post sir.

I do not hunt and I never have, though I do support others rights to do so. The state of Georgia has the 2nd largest deer herd in the US behind Texas. Bears are Godless Killing Machines no doubt, but deer are by far the most deadly animal in America. They are responsible for killing an average of 130 Americans per year due to traffic accidents. I'm sure Silver Searcher will probably counter with the argument that humans have no business driving cars and we should all use our legs as our primary form of transportation, or that the roads we built have infringed on the deer's natural habitat or some other nonsense, but the fact is that the deer population needs to be "managed", and if some guy can get his rocks off and at the same time put some meat on the family table by blasting one to Kingdom Come then I'm all for it.

That's the difference between our two cultures, we don't let the buggers drive. But seriously though, SS can fight his own corner, he is an intelligent man, I know, I have known him for some years now. And, from your posts I deduce you are a man of culture too. So, to the point.............Hunting, in my opinion is OK, better than slaughter houses. Defense is OK, better than dying . Living in an harmonious existance , where man and beast can coexist, taking into the mix human advancement is OK. But it is also our roll to protect and defend Gods creatures and habitats. I am not a "Tree Hugger" but I do love nature, I do shoot and I do protect wildlife and wont Kill for fun. When I do shoot, I eat what I kill. So, for the sake of harmony, and cos I know him, give SS a chance, he really is a good bloke if you don't annoy him.


Take care H-d-p and hh


hammered

Now,that is an awesome post!!I wish I could put it into words that way!!
Colin and I became buds through one of these very "disputes",and he is the only Brit involved that seen through where I was coming from and even gives me the time of day,and I respect him for that.My entire life has been devoted to wildlife,in all facets,and as anybody can see,I am kind of "passionate",about it.Only it and mining have I enjoyed and made a living from!

I think Hombre really wants to be my Buddy, but he sounds a bit creepy, he keeps mentioning The Bear Rug, and something called a pean ...I think he bat's for the outher side

 

[Silver Searcher]

OK, I'm going to give my 2 cents worth here, and I stress this is only MY opinion. I think what SS is getting at is killing for enjoyment as opposed to killing for food or defense. If a bear or, in our case, a slightly annoyed rabbit, was in the vicinity I would want protection . I do not live in a gun culture, having said that I do not have a problem with guns or hunting for food, but my experience with guns goes only to my service in the Royal Navy and game shoots, so I cannot identify with the choice of weaponry that you guys talk about. But, being serious for a minute, if I were hiking through Yellowstone or somewhere in Alaska, I would go armed if I could, and with something that would do the job, having said that, I would not go out of my way to actively hunt a bear or any animal for fun. Kuger and H-d-p (I hope you don't mind me using initials) (bugger, I could have written your whole name several times by now) also make very good points, if not slightly inflammatory, but also intended to illicit a response in a kind of way that I hope was tongue in cheek. To sum up for me, killing for food=OK, killing for defense=OK, killing for the sake of killing=psycho and you need help, shooting an animal to cause distress and pain=psycho and you need help. I hope this makes my point clear, but living in such different cultures, sometimes what we say gets taken the wrong way, so no harm or insult implied or intended to all. Be safe


hammered

Excellent post sir.

I do not hunt and I never have, though I do support others rights to do so. The state of Georgia has the 2nd largest deer herd in the US behind Texas. Bears are Godless Killing Machines no doubt, but deer are by far the most deadly animal in America. They are responsible for killing an average of 130 Americans per year due to traffic accidents. I'm sure Silver Searcher will probably counter with the argument that humans have no business driving cars and we should all use our legs as our primary form of transportation, or that the roads we built have infringed on the deer's natural habitat or some other nonsense, but the fact is that the deer population needs to be "managed", and if some guy can get his rocks off and at the same time put some meat on the family table by blasting one to Kingdom Come then I'm all for it.

That's the difference between our two cultures, we don't let the buggers drive. But seriously though, SS can fight his own corner, he is an intelligent man, I know, I have known him for some years now. And, from your posts I deduce you are a man of culture too. So, to the point.............Hunting, in my opinion is OK, better than slaughter houses. Defense is OK, better than dying . Living in an harmonious existance , where man and beast can coexist, taking into the mix human advancement is OK. But it is also our roll to protect and defend Gods creatures and habitats. I am not a "Tree Hugger" but I do love nature, I do shoot and I do protect wildlife and wont Kill for fun. When I do shoot, I eat what I kill. So, for the sake of harmony, and cos I know him, give SS a chance, he really is a good bloke if you don't annoy him.


Take care H-d-p and hh


hammered

Sure you are right Ian I have no problem with people taking for the table, but cruelty I can not stand, but if Hombre takes up the Gun you had better duk, have you seen the glasses he wears thicker than Coke bottles

 

[hombre_de_plata_flaco]

Hombre a Dagger to my heart, and I thought we were Friends I won't come back with your Deer comment, unlike you I have better things to do.

Yes. That is why you dedicated three consecutive posts to yours truly. Your schedule seems quite open if you ask me.

you stay at home and drug some poor girl to lie on your rug

Is your sister available?

I hope you can understand my poor Englee-sh.

You should just avoid posting while intoxicated IMO, though I do find your drunken, rambling posts about cuddly bears kinda cute.

PS by the way I own you now

SS

Because railing against my evil in 1000+ posts this AM constitutes "total ownage" LMAO!

It's so warm and moist here beneath your pale, English skin......

 

[milehigh]

How bout a 45 cal. Thats all I got.

 

[austin]

S&W 500 Magnum. The company claims it will stop anything on 2 or 4 legs. My sister owns a ranch 13 miles outside of Kalispell, Montana and she and the neighbors keep watch for grizzly bears and mountain lions. She has a .22 pistol and a can of bear repellant. I figure to inherit the place shortly. The joke in Montana is that a pile of bear scat was found. They knew it was bear scat because there was a can of bear repellant in it...

 

[releventchair]

Only blackies here,fun to watch but no trust. .44 magnum my choice, ease of carry. a 12 guage would be allright too .. If i can,t go armed around grizz and brownie i ain,t going. No interest in shooting one but at close range with a closer its time to take care of business. Will try to avoid any conflict. This drought may have an effect on diet this fall. Historically bears lose when they follow scent to scavenge among humans,who offer temptations intentionally or not. There are occasional bears for argued reasons that treat people as they would another bear,which can include eating them. That's the one i do not want to meet. Blinding it could help,anything but a brain or small target spine shot and bear can cover alot of ground and do plenty of damage. Would expect one shot before it closed. (If seen coming). Not far from here a couple years ago one was dispatched with a round of bird shot to the face ,(do not know size of shot) it was on a collision course with fate.