Which is the biggest treasure in the world never found? Pirates,Masons,Spanish.?

[djui5]

Re: Which is the biggest treasure in the world never found? Pirates,Masons,Spani

There are theories that the Knights Templar dug it up and secreted it away (again another theory that it was buried in Oak Island!) but no proof.

The gatekeepers will stop at nothing to protect their "treasure", including re-writing history itself. I wouldn't be the least bit shocked to find they did take it, and if so noone will ever find it, unless someone shows them.

The Ethiopian Ark is kept in a special small building with an iron fence and a full-time priest guarding it - no one is allowed to enter the enclosure, much less ever look upon the Ark. If they DO have it (Graham Hancock is of the opinion they DO have it, that the Ark was carried there when the Babylonians attacked Judaea) and the stories from the Old Testament are true, it would be a very dangerous object and you would be risking your life to look on it! There are theories that this Ark was really a giant capacitor, and that Moses used it as a sort of "magic" weapon, and there is some reason to think this might be the case. (After all, Moses had been raised in Egypt and educated with royalty, and would have learned some of the "tricks" used by Egyptian priests - in fact there are Egyptian "arks" similar to the Ark of the Covenant so...?)

Now that you mention that, I remember seeing a show on the History channel about this. They showed a picture of the building it's suppost to be in I believe. Old and run down looking.

Dang it, almost forgot about what is perhaps the OLDEST lost treasure legend - the "Cave of Treasures" described in apocryphal biblical texts! This cave supposedly holds the remains of Adam and Eve as well as severl of the earliest patriarchs, along with their treasures of gold, silver and gems, which cave was sealed in the time of Noah to preserve the remains from the biblical Flood. People were out hunting for this hidden cave in the days of Ur and Abraham, and even before the pyramids were built. How much was hidden there? Who knows?

That would be the biggest treasure in history!! Great, now I have something else to keep me up all night on the internet reading about...

 

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[gollum]

Re: Which is the biggest treasure in the world never found? Pirates,Masons,Spani

That's the correct show! Nobody gets in to see it, except that one man. I guess it boils down to faith again! You have to have faith that the Ark is in that little building. Those old crowns they keep are a good help to their story, though!

How to get in there to see it? HHHMMM. I wouldn't want what happened to the Nazis in "Raiders of the Lost Ark" to happen to me!


best,

mike

 

[Oroblanco]

Re: Which is the biggest treasure in the world never found? Pirates,Masons,Spani

Hello friends,
It is funny (as in sheesh, not haha) that of all nations, Ethiopia seems to be alone in having a sort of "Ark" fetish - every Christian church in the land there has its' own "Ark" reproduction. On high holy days, these reproduction Arks are paraded around the streets, though they are usually draped with cloth covers so no one can look upon them. Hancock thought this was strong (if suggestive) proof that there is something behind the screen....

(artists' conception, reproduction below)

Judaea and Ethiopia had good relations (mostly, did fight a couple of wars though) and recent DNA tests prove the Ethiopians are blood-relatives of Hebrews. If you were the High Priest in Jerusalem and knew the city was to fall into the hands of 'infidels' like the Babylonians, where would you hide the holy Ark? There were large colonies of Hebrews in Sw Spain (Sephardic) and even in Carthage; but both of these places were also 'infidels' so...? Egypt would not be safe enough, as they had proven too weak militarily; why not Ethiopia? There were colonies of Jews there, which probably did date to the time of Solomon, and most of the country did become Christian later (though we don't know how many were Jews prior to conversion) and Ethiopia was strong enough that they were not conquered until the 1900s (Italy, and even then it was a close-run thing!) so perhaps it would have seemed a safe haven. My problem with the theory is in how would they have gotten the holy Ark OUT of the city, with an enemy army encircling the whole place? There are tunnels in Jerusalem, but do any of them run out far enough to get beyond an enemy army?

I too would LOVE to have a peek inside that building, see "what is behind curtain number one" but how in heck would I know if it were THE Holy Ark or a reproduction? Gold doesn't tarnish (much anyway) over centuries, and the Ark is supposed to be plated with gold. I suppose you could look inside, and if the two stone tablets with the Ten Commandments were there - but then they too might be reproductions and we don't even know what type of writing the ancient Hebrews might have used while in the "exodus" phase, would it have been in Egyptian heiroglyphics, or perhaps Akkadian cunieform? It would be pretty neat to see it though. 8)

Oroblanco

 

[djui5]

Re: Which is the biggest treasure in the world never found? Pirates,Masons,Spani

I too would LOVE to have a peek inside that building, see "what is behind curtain number one" but how in heck would I know if it were THE Holy Ark or a reproduction?

I'm sure it would be immediatly obvious

 

[romin]

tombs of the two richest men never found gensis knan and attila the hun

 

[Postalrevnant]

The nuke awaiting the Iranians.

 

[saint2529]

In mona passage are a lot of sunked galleons. The only problem is that no men can dive there.

 

[able_walker]

Re: Which is the biggest treasure in the world never found? Pirates,Masons,Spani

Can't believe no one has mentioned the lost tomb of Genghis Khan.All the porters were killed to keep the location secret,which it has been all these years. Edit:Whoops I just saw the earlier mention...Oh well, still would be an amazing discovery.

 

[gollum]

Re: Which is the biggest treasure in the world never found? Pirates,Masons,Spani

I think I missed one of the major possibilities!

The tomb of the first Chinese Emperor Shi Huangdi. The one with a man made mountain built over it. They have found the 6000 man pottery army that guards it.

http://www.anniebees.com/China/China_42.htm

Best,

Mike

 

[ivan salis]

there are things too holy for mere men to privately "own" the order of the knight templers were sworn to "protect" these holy objects of the church at the cost of their own lives--they were very holy men ---they rejected the "application" of prince phillip "the fair" of france to be admitted to their order due to his greedy and unfair nature as being "unfit" to belong--in anger he bribed many cardinals to vote in pope clemet as "the new pope" clemet was related to the "imfamous" borsa family---he then ordered the arrest and death of the templers on "friday the 13th"(to this day --friday the 13th-- is know as a bad day because of this)---they were tipped off and smuggled the "holy objects and their vast treasury" far away for safe keeping to prevent the "unclean" leaders ---prince phillip and clemet for getting their hands on them---the "pope" as "payment" to phillip "declared" falsely that the templers were "using pagan and vile acts" as part of their secert rites---and ordered their lands out side of france be taken by the church and their "accounts" in the church banks seized--the debt owed to them by the frech king was wiped out and their large holding infrance forieted to the crown and all members of the order were to be put to death---the templers then went "underground" and invented "special greetings" and other ways to "indentify" one another in order to "protect" themselves from killers sent by the pope and prince to hunt them down and find out where they had hidden the treasures--both the pope and prince phillip did not live long after doing their foul deeds---they say the pope died of cancer about 3 months later and they say about 5 months later the "prince" died in a "hunting" accident---the treasure remains hidden to this day and is protected by decendents of the holy men who had sworn their lives to "prevent" in from falling into power hungry and vile men hands--for a "unclean" person to touch the arc is a death the bible states---that is why "poles" are used to carry it so as not to touch it---some things are best left alone---some say the modern "masonic" order "the masons" came from the early knight templers order---Ivan

 

[gollum]

Re: Which is the biggest treasure in the world never found? Pirates,Masons,Spani

Some of what you say is true, but not most of the Templars' History.

Actually, the Templar Knights were sworn to protect the Christian Travelers to the Holy Lands. They had nothing to do with any Holy Relics. There is a story that they found a Holy Relic while living in Jerusalem (That story has NEVER been verified). Many people think the story is true, and that the Holy Relic was the Holy Grail (but again, never proven).

As far as the demise of the Templars, they began collecting tolls from travelers (against EVERYTHING they stood for). Their original name was The Poor Knights of Christ and the Temple of Solomon. They invented the first banking system. What they would do was to take the travelers' money, and give them a signed note which they could redeem when they got to Jerusalem. They charged a fee for that service. They became fabulously wealthy over the years. King Philip was almost broke. He asked the Templars for money, and they refused to give him any. Philip went to the Pope and with falsified testimony, got permission to arrest the Templars. His sole purpose was to get their money. He got nothing. All their treasures disappeared.

What happened to the Templars? The most likely thing to have happened to them was the civilians in the area that is now known as Switzerland were in danger of attack from the Visigoths (I believe). They were saved by a large group of knights, dressed in white, who drove the Visigoths away. It is widely thought that those knights were the Templars. If you look at how they ran their banking business, and compare it to how the Swiss Banking System works, they are almost identical. Most likely, the Templars secretly founded the country of Switzerland.

Best,

Mike

 

[ivan salis]

yes they set up banking as a means to protect the travelers and acted as "body guards"---why attack the travelers if they had little money upon them? and in case folks attacked the travelers for their "private" jewelry and such that were upon them-- the templers acted as "bodyguards"---they became widely known and their services were in demand as a means of funding the order they charged a fee for the "protection" of both wealth and body---they were well known for both their honesty and bravery --due to their long time spent in the holy lands and the templer order being quite wealthy they funded many searches for and found many of the "holy items" of the church and acted as "guardians" of them----there was no problem with this and they held very high status within the church--- their problems started when they snubbed prince phillip who want to join "them" as a way to get at their money---although of a royal bloodline he was of a greedy nature and foul temperment-- which caused him to be refused both for membership and for "loans" --the templers deem him as "unfit" to be a member and "bad" credit risk as well as a "bad person" in general--they did not wish to "prop" up a bad leader by loaning him money as he was famous for using his "royal powers" to avoid payment of money owed----their judgement was proven right--- after being turned down in spite and greed --he rigged the election for the pope and they worked together to "strip" and destroy the templer order--by him "swearing" that thet were doing vile acts and the pope agreeing with him they were "set up"--- to call either the king or the pope a "lair" was death---the templers lands "in foreign countries and the money in church accounts" were taken by the church which made them wealthy over night--the lands in france the crown got to sell for money and massive debts owed by french crown to the templers wiped out---they had hoped to get both the "main templer treasury and the holy objects" that the templers held but got neither as the templers caught wind of their plans somewhat and hid them far away for safe keeping form these greedy vile and lying men------by the way you are quite correct some of the knights did indeed go to the swiss and aided them thus gaining them a "safe haven" look at the swiss flag and you will see their cross and coat of arms---Ivan

 

[Oroblanco]

Re: Which is the biggest treasure in the world never found? Pirates,Masons,Spani

Gollum wrote:

Most likely, the Templars secretly founded the country of Switzerland.

Greetings Mike and everyone,

Now there is an interesting statement Mike! Switzerland's original three cantons did win a sort of independence around the same time as the wiping out of the Templars, their flag is similar, and they were renowned as soldiers for centuries as well as being bankers. The Templars had mentioned some interest in founding their own monastic state, much as the Teutonic knights had done in Prussia...so...it is not a great leap of logic to add 2 and 2.

On the negative side, Switzerland has a long history reaching back into the Roman days; it seems logical that if the Templars did found the country, they would have had no need to hide this fact. Why should they have changed their flag or symbols at all, for that matter.

Would you care to explain more in support of the Templar->Switzerland theory Mike? It is an interesting idea, and you must have reason(s) for saying what you did. I would like to hear why they would have done this in secret too? Thank you in advance,
Roy ~ Oroblanco

 

[gollum]

Re: Which is the biggest treasure in the world never found? Pirates,Masons,Spani

Maybe because they were on the run from both France and more importantly, the Catholic Church!

If you were on the run, with a large treasury, and had every good Catholic in Europe looking for you, would you not try and hide your identity? That's not much of a leap of faith to believe either. Pretty straightforward logic, and not much to the imagination.

Best,

Mike

 

[able_walker]

Re: Which is the biggest treasure in the world never found? Pirates,Masons,Spani

Also the Russian "Amber Room" is still thought to be hidden somewhere.

 

[Twisted Fork]

Re: Which is the biggest treasure in the world never found? Pirates,Masons,Spani

What if Oak Island was a trap for the navy, and at the same time a simple part of a land form map axis leading to the best guarded fortress in America? (Superstition Mountains & the most feared Apaches). What if the pirate captain worked out a deal with the monks, to save their souls before execution? The largest Jesuit vault in the world was already there in Arizona back in the day. Don't you think it's about time to turn over the pooh and look somewhere else? Twisted

 

[UnEarthed72]

They probably have all these treasures locked away in the secret rooms at Fort Knox ....lol j/k

 

[Twisted Fork]

Re: Which is the biggest treasure in the world never found? Pirates,Masons,Spani

Try laying a French curve protractor across a copy of the Kidd skeleton head maps using key points and remove the skull cap. Slide the smaller section around on the larger one to line up matching points at right angles and see what happens. Fun stuff. Twisted

 

[boggle]

The "lost library of Alexandria" That would be the ultimate treasure to me. The history and knowledge it must contain would be amazing. But i dont think they hid it here in VT, lol

 

[wyoming]

Possibly the truth.