Do the Authorities monitor the posts on here?

[OutBack Duo]

This question is probably more for Jeff but I am sure most of us would like to know the answer. Jeff, has anyone contacted you (Authorities) concerning who somebody is and about what was posted? If some great treasure was found or a large cache worth a lot of money and it was posted on here would you expect a phone call from the authorities asking for the identity and address of the person posting it? Everybody likes to share what they find and its up to each individual to take care of the legality of their find including taxes and possibly proving ownership. I was just wondering if this site is monitored that you know of.

 

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[Gypsy Heart]

Sure it is.....Big Brother watches all.......which is the reason alot of people dont post their big finds.....Actually they are monitoring me as we speak.....Trying to figure out where all the rusty iron is coming from in my back yard................I expect the suits 8) 8) to show up on my doorstep at any moment...I am sure there is some type of tax on rusty iron that I dont know about yet. 8)
Not too long ago,something was posted from Capt Bill about Federal Agents showing up at his house over something that was posted here...........

 

[Don in SJ]

Can't say they monitor detecting posts, but sure they monitor e-bay finds being sold.

Ok, I do for a fact know the Bureau of Tobacco and Firearms monitor newspapers. My one buddy, back in the late 80's was a curator for a museum in South Jersey and his museum was displaying relics from the P-47 aircraft squadron that was stationed in Millville NJ during WW2.

Well, since the airbase was a training base for the fighter pilots, there were quite a few crashes, with fatalities. He spent endless hours researching and many trips to the Smithsonian getting copies of the accident reports and then he would excavate the crash sites for whatever was left to salvage and then put on display in the museum at the airport.

One of his goals was to recover the 50 cal machine gun from one of the crash sites. Of course that was always one of the pieces the US Army Air Corp always tried to recover, but usually leaving many other parts behind.

It just so happens one of the crashes was in a local lake, and although parts of the plane were recovered, not the part that had the guns. In the late 80's this lake was drained for the first time since it was built in the 1860's, yes, lots of metal detecting finds.

My buddy was so anxious to find that plane, he took a pram and waded out into the lake where he thought the partial plane still layed in about 3 feet of remaining water and yes, he found it.

He did recover a bent gun and many clips of live 50 cal ammo. The Atlantic City Press had a front page photo of him with a big smile on his face standing in the water holding the belts of 50 cal bullets.

The next day he had the Federal Agents knocking on his front door, confiscating the gun and ammo, which they said was illegal to have.

So, yes, without a doubt there are people watching and looking but I am not so sure about on metal detecting forums, that would be conjecture until someone states a factual happening.....

Don in SJ

 

[silverswede]

Maybe this approach would work:
Poster: Went fishing yesterday and boy what a day I had. 61 Large mouth Bass from 9 to 22 pounds each.

e-mail to poster: I will be stopping by your house today. I am Bill Johnson, Game Warden for Polk County

poster reply e-mail: Save you some time Mr. Johnson, Sir. I am Carl Olsen, Biggest Liar in PolK County.

 

[jeff of pa]

Of Course.

I get EMails & Phone Calls all th time, asking for Names and Addresses.











N O T

If they are watching, I'm sure they already have the ability to do this without asking.
My Guess they only come here when someone uses a Word that
sets off bells at the n s a .

Jeff

 

[OutBack Duo]

Well if I ever find anything really great I will make sure I post it here (just to see what happens). Don't get me wrong, I am not well off by any means but to find a great treasure and be able to tell people and friends about it is worth more to me than the taxes I would have to pay on it. I have never sold anything I have found so the only value for the things I have found are sentimental.

 

[ClonedSIM]

Yeah, that's the reason all of the KGC loot I've found will remain unseen. Uncle Sam may come along and snatch it all from me. Of course, my house looks like the inside of a casino with all the gold bricks and coins stacked all over the place, but I guess you have to pay a price for finding treasure.

 

[Leon]

I have already given all of my finds away, so there is no need to come looking for them...
GIVE AWAY, NOT SOLD...

 

[dg39]

Hummm. (smilie with sun glasses on)
I am sure there are random checks of all TH sites.

 

[Blind.In.Texas]

If they do monitor, then, I think it is because they are a lazy bunch of scavengers. I mean, the Feds won't sponsor treasure hunting expeditions, because, in the public's eyes that would be a childish fantasy lived out at the expense of the public dollar. Nooooo. Let's just monitor places where we can catch people and eventually make some dough at the expense of others. That's the Federal Treasure Recovery Foundation at work for you.

If Uncle Sam is watching this, bite me.....I know exactly where Captain Kidd's treasure is, Unc. Just in case you wanted to know.

And the "Twin Sisters" if you know what I mean.

 

[SHERMANVILLE ILLINOIS]

8)

 

[OutBack Duo]

I have done a bunch of research on the Dalton gang and caches they have hidden. If I found one of their caches and posted the contents here can the insurance companies or the railroad claim it as their property?

 

[Blind.In.Texas]

Like I said before. The people who would swoop in on what you may have found are spineless chicken sh*ts and that includes the feds.... wells Fargo..... India trading company and/or any one else who lost something they were too stupid or lazy to find.

what you have, that may be mentioned in history books, keep it on the low down. It could be removed from. Not likely that anyone will find anything of any real significant vale, but, on the off chance it happened it would not last long if publicized....I think.....

 

[Jeffro]

Now that is just...... ughhh! The avatar is pretty wacky, but couple it with your name and.......

 

[Jeffro]

The authorities don't have the time or manpower to monitor everything. generally what happens is someone seeing a post or newspaper article turns it in, word spreads, what have you.... then it gets seen and followed up on.

If there is any doubt at all as to the legitamacy of your (the finder's) claim, then it would be wise to get your ducks in a row.

If not.... well then, please share! I have a lost mine I'm following up on. Pretty legit so far. When and if I do come across it, I'll have it legally and won't have any qualms about sharing the story with you fine folks.

A stash of gold coins, who knows? Different story altogether.... Value and tracability are probably the most important factors in this area.

 

[Blind.In.Texas]

Jeffro has a lock-on... I have no idea what the mine rules are, but, I'm sure Jeffro does. Cachesof stolen property on the other hand, hmmmm. I would think there would be some sort of Staute of Limitations, where, after a certain period of time it all becomes fair game. I mean, The Spanish can't come back and claim a wreck someone finds in our waters, can they?

Avatar: That is too funny! Truthfully it didn't even occur to me when I picked it.....But, now that you mention it, I think it's cute... mmmm.....pudding.

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

author=Will.Dig.For.Food , The Spanish can't come back and claim a wreck someone finds in our waters, can they?
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Oh yes they can and do my friend. go ask Cornelius or any of the other well versed peeps in shipwrecks.

AND YES, THE GOV'T DOES MONITOR THE ENTIRE NET FOR KEY WORDS. THIS WAS ORIGINALY DONE WITH CARNIVORE, NOW WITH FAR FAR MORE SOPHISTICATED DEVICES. REMEMBER, WHEN YOU ACTUALLY HEAR OF THESE DEVICES, THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN REPLACED, SINCE A "KNOWN" TRACKING ABILITY NO LONGER IS EFFECTIVE AND CAN BE CIRCUMVENTED.

Till Eulenspiegle de La Mancha

 

[Blind.In.Texas]

Thank you Real.

That intrigues me that this type of event can occur. Especially after so many years underwater. Not that I would hunt down shipwrecks, but, the whole idea that someone else can come in after all someone else's hard work and take his/her finds. How is it that old mines can be claimed after having been owned at one time? Can shipwrecks be treated the same way?

Maybe one of these days I might get into something like that. Right now the family, the house, the job, and all the responsibility keep me from such things, as is the case for many others. I would certainly claim that I had found a lost something or other, but, I don't think that I would EVER claim to have found anything more than mere artifacts and some coins. As far as I am concerned I would leave it up to local governments to prove exactly where my finds came from. I would think for them to do that it would take them nearly as long to find it as it did me and therefor make it not worth hunting.

Just my thoughts.

 

[packerbacker]

uhhhhhhhhhhhh...................................no

 

[gollum]

author=Will.Dig.For.Food , The Spanish can't come back and claim a wreck someone finds in our waters, can they?
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Oh yes they can and do my friend. go ask Cornelius or any of the other well versed peeps in shipwrecks.

AND YES, THE GOV'T DOES MONITOR THE ENTIRE NET FOR KEY WORDS. THIS WAS ORIGINALY DONE WITH CARNIVORE, NOW WITH FAR FAR MORE SOPHISTICATED DEVICES. REMEMBER, WHEN YOU ACTUALLY HEAR OF THESE DEVICES, THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN REPLACED, SINCE A "KNOWN" TRACKING ABILITY NO LONGER IS EFFECTIVE AND CAN BE CIRCUMVENTED.

Till Eulenspiegle de La Mancha

Hey Jose,

What you are referring to is "Magic Lantern". That is the name for the offspring of "Carnivore" Computers sort keywords in internet postings, emails, and telephone calls.

A while back, I was actually contacted after a goround here by a person claiming to be a Federal Agent. It was about a TNet member that they said was a prime suspect in his father's death. I was told that they follow him from forum to forum, and this guy is a complete whacko. I don't remember everything, but I think they were waiting for him to post something incriminating.

Best,

Mike