Anyone here from Pa? Story about what I think is part of Jake Swansons cache

mdh157

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Anyone here from Pa? Story about what I think is part of Jake Swanson's cache

Looking for detecting buddies in south central PA - pm me

Personal experience:
Back about 1990 or so they were redoing one of the local sports fields/parks. Part of the job entailed dumping fresh clean fill on top of the old stuff, then grating and replanting grass. While they were doing this a friend of mine was assisting on the ground crew. One evening he called me and asked me to "please come over right away." I asked why, and he told me he had found some real old silver dollars from the 1800's. Well, i put my shoes back on and went right over. He had 4 Morgans, all in very nice condition. He told me that the guys were standing near the truck and after it had dumped a partial load of fill he and another guy were raking /grating by hand to smooth out the area before they moved to the next area. during the raking he saw something shiny and reached for it, finding it was a Morgan dollar. He found 3 other coins this way and told me the other guy had a few as well. The coins were all found in the fresh fill.

The next day I was working the PM shift at my job, so I decided to go over during the day and investigate. They happened to be going along one of the ends of the field for part of the time, so I was able to stand along the outside fence and get a close look at what was going on. During one of the dumps I saw something shiny, at which point I watched it and told him that there was something on the right side of the dump pile. He found 2 coins (morgans!!!!) when he grated it out. This amazed me....where was the fill coming from?

Well, i believe i figured it out within a day or two after that. I knew what company was doing the grating/filling as my friend was working for them. The same company was also clearing out the side of a hill, then cutting into rock for the purpose of putting a strip mall in. I also knew from my research on possible caches in the area a few years prior that the land where the strip mall was being put in belonged to a pig farmer by the name of Jake Swanson (it has been said that his last name was Schooley, but I haven't researched it enough). For a bit of background, Jake was a customer of the West End Bank (I think that's the correct bank name, but it's been awhile) in Scranton. Jake had a disagreement with bank officials, so he withdrew all of his money. One of the clerks said that it was nearly a full oil drum of silver dollars, but this has not been proven. BTW, oil drums @ that time were more like 20-25 gallons, not 55 like we have today. All we know is that Jake had a lot of money in there, because it seems that the argument started because Jake was asked to become the bank president since he had more money in there than any other depositor at that time, to which he refused. Anyway, Jake loaded all of his money onto his cart, mostly in silver dollars (IIRC this occurred sometime in the late 20's), and went home with it. He died in the 30's, and there is no record of a recovery, so many believe that the $$ was never found by anyone.

Now here's the clincher - once again, my opinion, but I know the Morgans were coming from the fill, and I know the same company was clearing out the area for the strip mall, and that area is on the lower end of Bell Mountain in Scranton/Dickson City, so it was my conclusion that at least part of the cache was unearthed by the company and was included in the fill that was, of course, coming from the strip mall location. A discussion with one of the dump truck drivers a few days later confirmed my guess about where the fill was coming from.

Now if the morgans were coming from an area that had never been built on and there were a bunch of them, it is my opinion that they were part of his buried cache.
My friend ended up with 9 Morgans and the other guy had 7, I think, when they got done with the job. I am somewhat certain they did not find all of the coins that were in the fill, thus there should be more there. Some of the coins were partially caked with dirt, so they were probably missed.

Point is, I know where this field is and despite my best efforts, was always bumped somehow and never got over there, figuring that since it was close by, I could get it anytime. And they were very picky when the field was freshly done so I'd have gotten chased and blackballed for sure. It is also my opinion that since they did not find many coins that only part of the cache was located in the fill they were extracting-again, my opinion, but it makes sense (at least to me).

I'm going to get back up there this summer one way or the other.
 

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Re: Anyone here from Pa? Story about what I think is part of Jake Swanson's cache

I would stay on this....Its not everyday that 15-16 morgans are found together & also I would definatly hit that park/ballfield where they were found Im sure there is still some there!
 

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mdh157

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Re: Anyone here from Pa? Story about what I think is part of Jake Swanson's cache

I'm on it...sort of. Have never forgotten it but by the time the newness of the field had worn off I was away in college and then never really returned to the immediate area to live, and now i have a family and house and well, I'm sure you guys know that my time has gotten a lot tighter. Heck, I had a period of almost 6 years in that time that didn't even take my detector out of storage!
 

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Re: Anyone here from Pa? Story about what I think is part of Jake Swanson's cache

1990's was quite a while ago. A ball field...wonder how many times it's been detected in 20 years? A silver dollar is a pretty big target to miss, even for cherry-pickers.

Me and a buddy find some silver dollars while working, all excited we tell a couple of buddies, they relay it to some of their buddies......get my picture?

Just sayin....don't get your hopes up too high. And picture running an excavator and busting open a cache of silver dollars. Maybe you missed a few when they were dumped in a truck....maybe you weren't paying attention and missed the main load...but only a handfull from a 30 gallon can...that's a lot of coins to still be missing.

And most certainly...the origin would be dramatically changed from the building of a strip mall. I've been let down more than once after researching a site only to discover the landscape was radically changed and whatever might have been there is now completely inaccessable.

Fill and topsoil for adding to a ballfield probably would have come from the first foot or so of the excavated area...better soil on the surface for growing grass without all the clay, shale, rocks, etc... Then picture a grader at the site where the excavation site was for the mall.... a parking lot, the foundations, etc.

I do wish you luck. Could still be a couple silver dollars in the park...maybe find where the rest of the excavated material went. Had to dump it somewhere not far from the site.

I've hit an excavation dumpings site a few times from when they dredged a lake. Finding are odd...fishing equipment, a couple bottles, ONE wheatie. But they graded the site over several acres and it's probably 15-20 feet deep in some places. Could be the honey hole I'm looking for is 10 foot under. But I'll keep plugging away...a place to detect without interference is great! :thumbsup:

Al
 

Old Rerntern

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Hey guys. Check out the posts from 2007: http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/treasure-legends-pennsylvania/39267-jake-swansons-silver.html
This may be the shopping mall mdh157 mentions in his post. Seems to make sense to me. If the farm was on the edge of the parking lot it's possible there may be more coins buried past the tree line.
I've got so many places to check out in this area, guess I have to add this one to my list and make it week-ender instead of a day trip.
 

Old Rerntern

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Swansons Cache.jpg Here's the exact location according to the directions. Hope this helps.
 

Old Rerntern

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My thought too. But being this was once a farm, farms cover large ares. It's possible the edge of the parking lot is only a section of the property. There is mention of foundations north of the parking lot. May be worth a look. I really don't think anyone will complain if you park in a public lot and try out your new metal detector in the grassy area, now would they?
 

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