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  1. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerseyben
    So let me get this straight... You are a new member who just decided to take it upon himself to "spread the word" about a location that I am sure many people hold near and dear to them.

    While I understand what your intentions were, it was wrong of you to "play the role of God" and decide to ruin this location for everyone who was already happilly hunting there.

    You very well may have just increased the amount of people that hunt an already well-known treasure beach by the dozens.

    This state is small enough as it is, has too many people crammed into it, and is being overdeveloped rapidly. Let others do their own research and put in some actual effort. People do not need to be spoon fed information or resources. There is enough out there for everyone but ruining a well-known spot for the people who already hunt there is wrong and violates our code of ethics.

    Ok I'm going out on a limb here. I'm guessing that you detect there.
    Last edited by ticm; Jul 10, 2012 at 04:47 PM.

  2. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil in West Jersey

    THIS GUY HAS BEEN BEEN BANNED ON AT LEAST TWO OTHER SITES. I ALREADY FLAGGED THIS POST (THE EXCLAMATION POINT). I RECOMMEND DOING THE SAME AND IGNORING THE POST SO IT JUST FADES AWAY. IT IS PEOPLE LIKE HIM THAT CAUSE THE HOBBY TO BE BANNED BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ANY ETHICS.

    I myself have been banned at two other detecting Forums. One of which I believe you had a problem with too. That does not make us bad people. The jersey shore is loaded with people detecting. I for one am not into it to much. It kinda reminds me of tot lot hunting. Of course your not going to find any ship reck treasure in a tot lot. LOL.

  3. #18

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    Quote Originally Posted by coinshooter View Post
    Man, you should call yourself "Don pisses people off".
    I can't understand why some people feel it is the "duty"
    to give away information that may have taken others a very long time
    to aquire.
    I agree with Neil's sentiment, not necessarily in his words.
    You should be ashamed to call yourself a treasure hunter.
    There's no need to give away information to those that
    don't do their own research.
    Glad you don't have the code to the nuclear weapons.
    Are you attempting to assert that people who use information which has been freely and publicly shared over the years "don't do their own research" and therefore are not worthy enough to look for the pirate booty lost near Ocean City, NJ, Strathmere, NJ or Sea Isle City, NJ?

    In my opinion, someone who searches the innernets for "metal detecting on the Jersey Shore" is doing their own research, but I'm just a fool with a keyboard so what do I know and for that matter who even cares what I say.

    Regardless, I will keep typing as I'm unable to sleep.

    It is hardly shameful to share information which can benefit others and you should be ashamed to tell someone they should be ashamed for sharing information of this sort. In fact it is a shame that I'm not ashamed to tell you that you should be ashamed for telling someone that they should be ashamed.

    The concept of freely exchanging information with others is hardly a new concept and this exchange of information even defines the word "history" in a way.

    Sadly just as ancient as the practice of info sharing is the greedy practice of attempting to limit the sharing of any information for the purpose of obtaining gains, profits or advantages over others.

    That gold was likely dug up by peasants and slaves, taken by rulers, stolen by others, then stolen by the Spaniards and then stolen by the pirates and then lost in or near Corson Inlet and if it winds up in someone's pocket who is complaining?

    Greed is not fun

    And how does this even relate to nuclear weapons?

    arrrrr
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  4. #19
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    I've been aware of this beach for many years and a very simple Google search will reveal its location. I've always wanted to hunt it but just have never had the time. With that being said, I'm on the fence about this post. It is easily accessible information but if it was a beach I was hunting I would be a little ticked if someone posted information that was this specific. I hate hunting when there are a ton of detectorists on the beach...one reason I dislike seeded hunts.

    I don't think Don did anything wrong as far as the forum rules go but if his hunting buddy told him this information in confidence and he broadcasted it to the world then I would have a huge problem with Don. It would be different if he was on the beach and someone approached him then showed off their finds. Then it is his story so tell it. If his buddy gave him his bleesing on this post then so be it.

    So Don my question to you is, did your friend give you permission to post his story on T-Net? If not, I would be surprised if you have any hunting buddys for long.

    NJ
    Last edited by N.J.THer; Jul 13, 2012 at 11:08 AM.

  5. #20
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    ticm: I don't hunt this beach and never will. That's not the point.
    pyrate: What are you even talking about

    I don't see how myself, Neil, and Coinshooter can be the only ones who feel this way...

    The points being made here about this being a public beach are unfounded. So what if its a public beach? There are miles upon miles of public NJ beaches available for hunting but the author of this post chose to call out a very specific beach with very specific information. Now tell me, is that publically available information?

    I have NO PROBLEM sharing sites. In fact, I personally prefer to hunt in a group with friends and I willingly suggest sites to hunt. However, to suggest that going on Google, spending 5 minutes typing in "gold and silver NJ beach" and calling that research is hardly appropriate. Many people hunting in NJ are putting in time and effort to do so involving maps, joining clubs, networking, reading, and scouting among other things.

    All this post serves to do is hurt the hobby and MAYBE help out a few people who just got lucky enough to stumble upon this post and suddenly just fell into an amazing "lead".

    One more thing. I don't care if people have been hunting this spot for years and that lots of people already knew about it. I have plenty of spots like that which I currently hunt. I will and do invite friends to hunt it with me but that doesn't mean I am going to publically advertise those spots.

  6. #21
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    NJ

    Nov 2006
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    Jerseyben,
    I don't care for this post because I feel it goes against the spirit of treasure hunting. I think part of the hunt is doing the research but I do have to disagree with one part of your statement. "However, to suggest that going on Google, spending 5 minutes typing in "gold and silver NJ beach" and calling that research is hardly appropriate." The internet is a huge part of ever treasure hunters research. I still hit the libraries, look at old maps and newspapers but I definately use search engines such as Google to assist in that search. Quite a few years ago I found information on ths beach that was found using a search engine in less then five minutes. I found a article about the dredging project that mentioned Spanish silver being found. Although it was located rather quickly I still feel I did the research. I wish all my research was completed that quickly...lol. If Don did all his own research and then dicided to share it I have no problems with it. If his friend told him this information then said he could post it I have no problem with it. May not like it but I don't think he did anything wrong. If his friend was not aware that he posted this then it becomes an integrity issue. I don't particularly care for people with no integrity. Not sure if Don is one or not yet so I will withhold judgement until I find out more.

    NJ

  7. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerseyben
    ticm: I don't hunt this beach and never will. That's not the point.
    pyrate: What are you even talking about

    I don't see how myself, Neil, and Coinshooter can be the only ones who feel this way...

    The points being made here about this being a public beach are unfounded. So what if its a public beach? There are miles upon miles of public NJ beaches available for hunting but the author of this post chose to call out a very specific beach with very specific information. Now tell me, is that publically available information?

    I have NO PROBLEM sharing sites. In fact, I personally prefer to hunt in a group with friends and I willingly suggest sites to hunt. However, to suggest that going on Google, spending 5 minutes typing in "gold and silver NJ beach" and calling that research is hardly appropriate. Many people hunting in NJ are putting in time and effort to do so involving maps, joining clubs, networking, reading, and scouting among other things.

    All this post serves to do is hurt the hobby and MAYBE help out a few people who just got lucky enough to stumble upon this post and suddenly just fell into an amazing "lead".

    One more thing. I don't care if people have been hunting this spot for years and that lots of people already knew about it. I have plenty of spots like that which I currently hunt. I will and do invite friends to hunt it with me but that doesn't mean I am going to publically advertise those spots.


    Man please, this site is no secret. I heard about it long ago. I have told lots of people about it. That's why I thought it was funny when he first posted it. This post does not hurt the hobby.

  8. #23
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    [url]http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/what/[/ur

    Never mind that did not work.

  9. #24
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    I'm not a big fan of burning other people's spots...regardless of the public nature of the location. Two of my best dilver days were public places...I don't advertise them just because they are public.

  10. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by gordonquixote
    I'm not a big fan of burning other people's spots...regardless of the public nature of the location. Two of my best dilver days were public places...I don't advertise them just because they are public.


    It's public land and information as well. Old
    news. Let me give out another good spot to every one. Atlantic city. Oh my there I did it I ruined somebody's spot. Oh well I have no ethics.

  11. #26
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    What is this City of Atlantic that you mention
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  12. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by N.J.THer
    What is this City of Atlantic that you mention
    LMAO

  13. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by ticm View Post
    It's public land and information as well. Old
    news. Let me give out another good spot to every one. Atlantic city. Oh my there I did it I ruined somebody's spot. Oh well I have no ethics.
    I have Neolithics? Thats in artifact forum .

  14. #29
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    I think don is getting paybacks on someone who probably busted his chops, possibly a home owner nearby

  15. #30
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    Cancel my membership to this and the other metal detecting forums. The only people still posting are these people. Facebook is where it's at.
    Last edited by Treasure_Hunter; Jul 13, 2012 at 08:12 PM. Reason: language

 

 
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