Petition on metal detecting

[civil_war22]

There is a petition on metal detecting on we the people website. It's under education

 

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[civil_war22]

http://wh.gov/QX0C . Check it out here.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Sorry, I have no desire to see people detecting in any of the National Parks or battlefields.....this is one of the few laws against metal detecting I fully support......

 

[civil_war22]

Figures. I realize we pay for these parks to be maintained and taken care of from our taxes. But the government could issue permits to individuals to metal detect the areas. And police it as they do now and anyone without a permit would be fined. Just like deer hunting and fishing. The government would make money on this and the detectorist could have the joy of metal detecting on a battlefield or other park.

 

[Jason in Enid]

IT will never happen. NO amount of signatures will ever change their mind. The entire concept behind the petition is flawed.

 

[civil_war22]

It's pure genius. They realize they can make money off this and realize that it could also be educational. I guess everyone just wants to let everything that's in a park rot in the ground. Here in arkansas they have no displays in the two military parks up here and do not have any in the vaults they own. It's all at the u of a in Fayetteville. So why do they not display these things or let people metal detect on the park.

 

[smokeythecat]

What most people don't realize is that relic collecting was done on what is now park land even before electricity came into existence. I remember reading where locals would salvage lead and other materials right after battles and for years to come.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Figures. I realize we pay for these parks to be maintained and taken care of from our taxes. But the government could issue permits to individuals to metal detect the areas. And police it as they do now and anyone without a permit would be fined. Just like deer hunting and fishing. The government would make money on this and the detectorist could have the joy of metal detecting on a battlefield or other park.

Not sure why you say "figures"..... If we allow it with permits it would be abused by thousands, they would have to hire hundreds more rangers to enforce it..... Having been in over 75% of the National Parks in this country and many of the battlefields, Just my personal opinion which i am entitled to but I think it is bad idea and can't support it......

Last thing I want to see is people running around with detectors in those parks..... Now in National rec areas, and National forests that is a totally different story.... I am all for opening them up....

 

[civil_war22]

Actually I have been in law enforcement a long time and the permit check idea is very simple and easy. Most battlefields have night vision cameras and motion sensor. With the rangers and the county sheriffs office it would be easily maintained. They could use a sign in sheet or even be accompanied by a ranger to certain area that was limited to detectorist.

 

[0121stockpicker]

Plenty of other places to detect in this country. I definitely don't want to see mders digging up Gettysburg no matter what. Just no need for this.

 

[kuger]

Battlefeilds are sacred ground,cemetariers,something has to be sacred in this moral less society we have become.Everything is not about money!

 

[Red James Cash]

I wouldnt mind detecting little round top,an ancestor was killed there.

 

[austin]

Not a good idea.

 

[civil_war22]

No doubt rjc

 

[Red James Cash]

Yup that would be something.

 

[civil_war22]

To be able to go over those fields where they camped and passed out the wages to each soldier. Wow. Also I wouldn't mind finding a few complete shells and cannonballs. Mainly coins and personal effects

 

[Red James Cash]

Yup, imagine finding something that belonged to an ancestor who stood and fought there.Boggles the mind

 

[civil_war22]

Would be great.

 

[spartacus53]

To be able to go over those fields where they camped and passed out the wages to each soldier. Wow. Also I wouldn't mind finding a few complete shells and cannonballs. Mainly coins and personal effects

Funny thing is you can roam those grounds, but just without digging it up. It's called a tour

 

[Tom_in_CA]

civil war 22, I agree with those respondants who say this petition is not a good thing. For a few reasons:

a) As people here point out, you are simply NOT going to get sacred federal historic landmarks opened up to "yahoos" like us. Would we all love it if could happen? SURE! But will it happen? No. Of course not. And you can ask and petition till you're blue in the face, and no one's going to let you go dig at shiloh, bodie, gettysburg, etc.....

b) In the process of petitioning (even IF you could get someone to take you seriously) it would only end up in more scrutiny AGAINST us. You simply put a big bullseye on your hobby, for the future, when those powers-that-be go to look into this "serious matter". Then you just bring and enforce this issue to their mind, that then gets passed down to county and city levels, etc... So sometimes the LESS attention, is the better. Sure it doesn't solve the problem where you're already told "no" (granted), .... but the LAST thing you want, is for anyone to rehearse over and over again how supposedly evil and wrong this hobby is, as they rehearse their reasons to say no to your petitition.

c) Re.: the "state lands" part of your petition: It's incorrect that all state lands are off-limits. There's lots of states where you can hunt various types of state lands, and no one cares. Is that to say you might not find some cultural heritage wording that might be morphed to tell you "no"? No. Of course not. But in actual practice, even at some of the dire sounding states, it's not an issue (as long as you're not being a nuisance, going into obvious historic sacred monuments, etc...). State of CA, for instance, is one of those dire-sounding states on the list (tells you to inquire at each kiosk you come to, etc...). However, at state-of-CA beaches, you can detect to your heart's content, and not be bothered. So as you can see (by way of example), a "petition" or to "seek clarification" (on whether those cultural heritage things apply to the beach too), is NOT a good thing to do.