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Thread: On May 1867 The Steam Boat Julia sank in the Minnesota River , Now What?

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    menElayers

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    On May 1867 The Steam Boat Julia sank in the Minnesota River , Now What?

    Currently I need any help looking for the Hull of the Julia . This steam boat that hit a snag and went down in 1867. I have some Ideas, but I cant decide if its worth all the time and energy to search for it. The odds are in good favor that this is one of 6 possible steamboats on the River bottom. The silt runoff from the farms and flooding has buried it. I was thinking the AT pro could find this and I could place it with the historical society. Any Ideas if its in the inner part of or outer part of the river about 2 miles down from Mankato.
    Here is a link .
    Annual Statement of the Trade and Commerce of St. Louis - Google Books once at link you can click on the page and it will show all the steamboat disasters of the page.

    This Steamer was labeled a total loss but no records about it being pulled out of the River bottom are found.
    HH
    metal Detecting is a lot like friendships:

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    I think you need to read Treasure in a Corn field,the story about Greg Hawley's tribulations of finding and excavating the Steamboat Arabia,then you be the judge

    doubtful any detector will do you any good either.....
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    menElayers

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    Ok, I'll read it, first. Its really intriguing knowing it could be down there. Does he find it a corn field?
    kuger likes this.
    metal Detecting is a lot like friendships:

    They both can be shallow or deep
    It takes practice to get it right
    Rarely give up on it, dust it off and try again
    Not taken it too seriously
    Willing to Try new things
    Always Have Fun-
    Golden Eagle

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    ...ya gotta read it.....fantastic read!!!Then go to their museum
    M.X.T , Tesoro Tejon



    "A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than a gun in the hands of 200 million law-abiding citizens."

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    Quite a story.
    Steamboat Arabia Museum

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    A few months after WWII some members of a U-boat crew were picked up in the city of New Orleans. After a PBY aircraft depth charged and damaged the sub in the Gulf of Mexico, they scuttled (sank) the boat in the Pearl River and walked along the RR tracks into town. People have been looking for that sub for 70 years. It is rumored to have been carrying Nazi gold to South America. Problem is, dozens of sunk barges used in the timber industry also lie on the bottom of the Pearl River.

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    Tanner

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    I live a few blocks from the minnesota river!

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    Casey

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenEagle View Post
    Currently I need any help looking for the Hull of the Julia . This steam boat that hit a snag and went down in 1867. I have some Ideas, but I cant decide if its worth all the time and energy to search for it. The odds are in good favor that this is one of 6 possible steamboats on the River bottom. The silt runoff from the farms and flooding has buried it. I was thinking the AT pro could find this and I could place it with the historical society. Any Ideas if its in the inner part of or outer part of the river about 2 miles down from Mankato.
    Here is a link .
    Annual Statement of the Trade and Commerce of St. Louis - Google Books once at link you can click on the page and it will show all the steamboat disasters of the page.

    This Steamer was labeled a total loss but no records about it being pulled out of the River bottom are found.
    HH
    I think I read somewhere that a bell was recovered and is either at the library or Blue Earth County Historical Society or the courthouse. I could be completely wrong but I am not sure. It sounds really familiar. It seems to me that I read that a bell was recovered from a sunken steamboat on the Minnesota River near Mankato. I am sure you have checked this out but there was an article that mentioned it was two miles northeast of Mankato. I also have a book that covers the history of steam boats on the Minnesota River if you are interested.

    Couple to scour Minnesota River for steamboat wrecks Local News The Free Press, Mankato, MN
    A box without hinges, key, or lid, yet golden treasure inside is hid. - J. R. R. Tolkien

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    Casey

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    It is also listed in the History of Blue Earth County. It says that the hull is still there but the rest of the ship was dismantled and that most all of the cargo was salvaged. Still defiantly worth looking into.
    A box without hinges, key, or lid, yet golden treasure inside is hid. - J. R. R. Tolkien

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    May 2008
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    I think that river floods massively, if I recall correctly.
    "A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything." Friedrich Nietzsche

    "You ask where I live. I cannot tell you. I am a Voyageur, a Chicot, sir. I live everywhere. My grandfather was a voyageur; he died while on a voyage. My father was a voyageur; he died while on a voyage. I will also die while en route, and another Chicot will take my place. Such is our course of life."

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    Casey

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    Yes, the Minnesota River is prone to flooding in the Spring. That probably doesn't help the search very much but is still pretty interesting.
    A box without hinges, key, or lid, yet golden treasure inside is hid. - J. R. R. Tolkien

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    My recollection is that by Shakopee it's gone up what seems like 40 feet or more. That's a LOT of water, and fast.
    "A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything." Friedrich Nietzsche

    "You ask where I live. I cannot tell you. I am a Voyageur, a Chicot, sir. I live everywhere. My grandfather was a voyageur; he died while on a voyage. My father was a voyageur; he died while on a voyage. I will also die while en route, and another Chicot will take my place. Such is our course of life."

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    menElayers

    Nov 2011
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    I read the "Treasure in a Corn field" interesting read. They made it sound so easy until the costs piled up. If we had a team that could get out there and search on a weekend. plus, After we find it, the question is, Now what do we do?
    metal Detecting is a lot like friendships:

    They both can be shallow or deep
    It takes practice to get it right
    Rarely give up on it, dust it off and try again
    Not taken it too seriously
    Willing to Try new things
    Always Have Fun-
    Golden Eagle

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenEagle View Post
    I read the "Treasure in a Corn field" interesting read. They made it sound so easy until the costs piled up. If we had a team that could get out there and search on a weekend. plus, After we find it, the question is, Now what do we do?
    The authorities would probably make you turn it over to an archeological society or University. Since it probably is protected by the MN laws that govern shipwrecks. Seems kind of weird, but they are on the books. Mainly for Lake Superior and Mississippi River wrecks, but apply to all inland lakes and rivers.
    "Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak; courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen." ~Winston Churchill

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    Thanks uglymailman, I just took a look at the website and video about the Arabia that you posted. What an interesting story and the effort Hawley's put into it's recovery are remarkable. I would love to visit the museum if I am ever in that area. A truly amazing story!

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    menElayers

    Nov 2011
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    I checked the MN river sediment patterns Julia could be buried 6 to 8 feet deep. Not worth only part of the steamer. The whole would be a different story.
    metal Detecting is a lot like friendships:

    They both can be shallow or deep
    It takes practice to get it right
    Rarely give up on it, dust it off and try again
    Not taken it too seriously
    Willing to Try new things
    Always Have Fun-
    Golden Eagle

  18. #17
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    Apr 2010
    Twin Cities, MN
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    13 times
    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenEagle View Post
    I checked the MN river sediment patterns Julia could be buried 6 to 8 feet deep. Not worth only part of the steamer. The whole would be a different story.
    Where did you find sediment reports? I would be interested in a report on the Cannon River if you have it or can shoot me a link?
    "Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak; courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen." ~Winston Churchill

  19. #18

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    The Julia did sink in 1867. Much of the farming machinery and personal effects on the boat were recovered that year, and – as was mentioned in other replies, so was the bell. The personal effects and the bell are, in fact, housed at the Blue Earth County historical museum. In the early 1950s a fisherman was fishing at the north end of the area that is now Riverfront park and hooked the keel of the Julia and hauled it onto shore. There may be some additional personal effects in the river, but most of what it had on board was salvaged right away.

 

 

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