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  1. #1

    Oct 2012
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    anyone wanna stop me

    anyone wanna stop me before i go to a home of a former friend of mine thats been foreclosed and now owned by the bank. any horror stories of banks pressing charges against metal detectorists on their property?

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    Mar 2007
    Salinas, CA
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    Oh puullleeaasseee tell us you won't do it!!

    You need to contact that bank hierarchy (in New York, or Los Angeles, or wherever they're out of ...) and ask their permission. And needless to say, you probably won't get a reply back. Or if you did, it would be "no" d/t some perceived liabilty song & dance. Assuming it's in limbo, in the hands of some nameless faceless bank, ...... then your technical answer is, that it still technically is still owned by someone. And no matter how abandoned and weed-choked and derelict, and no matter how much no one may care, you still must "go ask".

    Here in CA, we had some cities that were particularly hard-hit by foreclosures in some neighborhoods. The home prices had gone un-realistically high in 2005, 2006, 2007, etc... leading to a bunch of people who "walked away" from mortgages in 2010, 2011, etc... The wheels of progress turned very slowly on those reposessions. They would sit like that for seeming months or a year. And to answer your question, there were guys who did in fact help themselves to the front lawns. And .... no, ..... nothing happened. But the technical answer to your question is: You must ask.
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    Jun 2007
    Minnesota
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    Around here the first thing that happens after the foreclosure, and I mean the day the former owners are out, is that the property manager for the bank slaps a No Trespassing sign on it to prevent the house or property being stripped.
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    Mar 2007
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    SusanMN, then the solution to that is simple: simply stay out of the inside of the house that has the no trespassing sign on it

    There was a bunch of abandoned army barracks during a base closure near me. And all the boarded up barracks got such signs on them. Yet we roamed yard to yard hunting the grass around them. When questioned by the passing MP's, we assured them we were out in front, thus not in them (thus purporting to be in compliance with the signs). They shrugged their shoulders and drove off

    Not saying that this explanation would work for any busy-body lookie lou. I mean, afterall, even WITHOUT such a sign, as I say, the "technical" answer, is, you can't even step off the sidewalk anywhere you go.
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    us
    Jan 2013
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    Just do it. The police will just advise a trespass warning if you are cool with them.

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    Jul 2006
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    Are you a gambling man? I mean after all it is private property that is "owned" by someone else and by detecting it without permission you are taking a risk. If someone calls the police on you and the police ask you if you are the owner of the property (they will call and find out) you potentially could be in for some trouble. And if they DO contact the bank and the bank wants to press charges for tresspasing? Well. Roll the dice.
    Last edited by thrillathahunt; Mar 15, 2013 at 10:36 AM.
    Metal detecting: Getting up at the break of dawn to experience the thrill of the unknown.

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    Mar 2007
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    thrillathahunt, well .... sure .... if we all thought long enough and hard enough about anything, there is always the "something could happen" scenario. For example: I'm sure there's examples of a motorist being roughed up by an over-zealous cop (arrested etc...) for nothing but a tail-light out. Technically, sure ... "anything" could happen. Such fears have even caused md'rs to think they need written permission to hunt a city's sandbox, for instance (afterall, you "can't be too safe" etc...)
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    Jul 2006
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    Tom, I'm on your side in discussions about detecting public areas, tot-lots parks beaches, etc. But I learned long ago from experience what CAN happen if you detect private property without permission. Let's just say I learned my lesson well.
    Metal detecting: Getting up at the break of dawn to experience the thrill of the unknown.

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    us
    Jan 2012
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    And we wonder why people look at us like we are all thieves and criminals....

    If you want to do it then you are the one taking the chance. Just don't complain the next time some agency or person treats you like a criminal just because you like to metal detect. Everything we do individually reflects on the rest of those in our hobby.
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    Mar 2007
    Salinas, CA
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    thrill and treasure, you're right: don't hunt them. Or, only do so after the bank says "ok". This is, afterall, a question about property that is technically private property.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom_in_CA View Post
    thrillathahunt, well .... sure .... if we all thought long enough and hard enough about anything, there is always the "something could happen" scenario. For example: I'm sure there's examples of a motorist being roughed up by an over-zealous cop (arrested etc...) for nothing but a tail-light out. Technically, sure ... "anything" could happen. Such fears have even caused md'rs to think they need written permission to hunt a city's sandbox, for instance (afterall, you "can't be too safe" etc...)
    Tom, you and your "permission soap box" really need to take a break. This is not about hunting some city park. The law is very clear here. Posted or not this person is asking our permission to trespass on private property and "steal" items that belong to someone else. Are you saying that you approve of someone trespassing on private property (posted or not) and taking objects that belong to someone else?
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    Mar 2007
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    treasure, I guess you posted this after I'd retracted. I'm now saying: "don't hunt it without the bank's say-so".

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    Jan 2012
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom_in_CA View Post
    treasure, I guess you posted this after I'd retracted. I'm now saying: "don't hunt it without the bank's say-so".
    And tomorrow you personally will go right back out and hunt private properties like this yourself, thus ignoring your own "advice".

    "Do as I say and not as I do. Or at least don't tell anyone you are doing what I told you not to do but actually do when I'm by myself."
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  14. #14

    Oct 2012
    Virginia
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    in case anyone was wondering, 87 cents, a key, and a copper bracelet. Plus the permission of a nearby neighbor to hunt an 1800s property that he says is the supposed spot of an old civil war encampment, and yes, the nearby neighbor is the owner of lot he gave me permission to hunt in. ( i met the guy while out trespassing and stealing on the lot i spoke of earlier.) like some of the other posters mentioned, there were "no trespassing" signs attached to the home forbidding entrance into the house itself but saying nothing about the yard. so being a finder and a keeper, i helped myself to the change and nickknacks laying about the yard, which very likely were lost by the previous owner who ive already stated that i knew, and knew quite well. so should i turn these items into the bank, or should i give them back to the one that lost them? what would you do? on a side note, i think the current owner of the property should be run out of town and the place condemned, because judging by the condition of the home and the severely neglected yard, they dont really give two turds about it. These are the same banks that i constantly hear stories about of homeowners being illegally foreclosed on and bullied out of their rightful homes.

    Robin Hood
    Last edited by bufaloeletric; Mar 15, 2013 at 01:59 PM.

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    A yard does not necessarily have to have a "no trespassing" sign in it in order for you to be legally trespassing. My neighbor's yard does not have a no trespassing sign. But I guarantee you that if I went over there and started digging in his yard without permission that I would be in handcuff's faster than you can say: "if you already knew what you were doing was wrong and you had every intention of doing it anyway, why did you even bother posting here in the first place?"
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