Apr 17, 2013, 07:45 PM
So all , what's in his range that will deal with iron?. Because i,ve been using it i,d try my 350 without hesitation. While i can knock out alot of iron,without trying in his area ground balance still bugs my suggesting same model,mine being automatic. Justin looking for spills or drops it seems like.
Is that applause i hear Diesel and Dusty? L.o.l.. oh look ,a bottle cap!
Last edited by releventchair; Apr 17, 2013 at 07:48 PM.
Apr 17, 2013, 08:18 PM
I got out today for 2 hours with the ace350 and im not going to count the bottle caps i have piled up in my junk bag but id say theres aleast 20 of them.....i found 14 cents and around 20 caps at my frist location and got sick of it went to an old hunted out spot i have been pounding and pulled a silver dime was very few signals there much easier then digging bottle caps hours on end
Im not crazy......my mother had me tested
Apr 17, 2013, 08:27 PM
Moving forward! "WP"
LOL! Again I think if his budget is $400 then he should buy a used upper end machine. He will be way happier in the end and likely will not loose much money if he was to trade it in.
Originally Posted by releventchair
Apr 17, 2013, 08:30 PM
Watch it jeff! I love my minelab.
Apr 17, 2013, 08:53 PM
I can cherry pick and duck most,not all caps. Am willing to dig them a while where i hunt regular.
If i could trade a couple units in i could see running a minelab down the road. Content for now,usually.
getting Justins hands on a variety of used with knowledgeable user(s) would go far.
What i think he is wanting it for a lot of units will cover,its what he might want out of it farther on that makes amount of investment important.
Jeff,the garrett ace series are multi bell tones. At times capable of an interesting medley!
Last edited by releventchair; Apr 17, 2013 at 09:00 PM.
Apr 17, 2013, 09:12 PM
Moving forward! "WP"
The one time I used a ace detector the machine was giving multiple tones on the same target. It sounded like a kids electric piano...All tones going off. I don't like noise and so this really bugged me. My opinion of the ace detectors was set right then and there. But it is just my opinion and worth just what you all paid for it
Originally Posted by releventchair
Apr 17, 2013, 09:21 PM
Thanks,now i will have to concentrate on not hearing a piano! On occasion i turn the headphones down. I did miss hearing the noon whistle yesterday,the only hole in the rain for what looks like an all most two week period,so that's good. Got a couple extra hours in. I have a couple 350s,they are well worth the cost to me. Lots of hours helps. All ways like trying others though, we know where that leads eventually. Unlike some, ummm significant others you can have more than one favorite and not get in trouble.
Apr 17, 2013, 09:26 PM
From an AT Pro user: buy it if you can afford it. They can't state a price on the internet less than about $600, but you may be able to get a quote on the phone or in an e-mail for a bigger discount. Certainly if you ever saw a used one for $400 & it had the cam locks that indicate manufactured or remanufactured after the early problem units you should be fine. But I see many AT Pros on eBay going for $500-$550 used, so a new one might be a better deal from some dealers.
What I like so much about the AT Pro is it has the most accurate & stable ID at depth I've ever seen. It will ID correctly almost as deep as it can detect, I got a dime 7" deep that IDed correctly on all of 10-20 passes I did before digging it up. This was in moderately mineralized soil that was hard from being totally dry. It is good at getting tilted coins. After setting the ground balance it goes deep & IDs great. Dimes ID 80-85, quarters 85-86, nickels 52-53, copper cents upper 70s to lower 80s. Iron disc of 40 can completely reject things like steel bottle caps. At iron disc 35, they give a one way beep. The zinc cents give high tone 1 way & mid tone on return sweep, so no need to even look at the visual ID.
In PRO mode I'm told it can hear a coin under a nail, if iron is not completely rejected. I've just used it in STD mode, sens 7 out of 8, iron disc 40, coins program. Almost never dug junk & when I did it was almost always small round objects.
I had a Garrett Ace 250 & the deepest dime that IDed correctly was 4" vs 7" for the AT Pro. Even Minelab users say their visual ID is not accurate beyond 7". I've got a Minelab Safari that can detect a dime in air test to 11.5" vs 10" for AT Pro, but Safari can't ID accurately at depth any better than AT Pro, despite cost. AT Pro in STD mode, sens 7 of 8, gives a high tone at 10" on a dime. The Safari at 11.5" gives almost all low junk/iron IDs on dime. Best wishes, George (MN)
P.S. I am not brand-prejudiced as have owned about 50 detectors from White, Fisher, Garrett, Teknetics, Bounty Hunter, Nautilus, Wilson, Minelab, Compass, & chinese models. Have been detecting since 1976.
Apr 17, 2013, 09:32 PM
I'd try to find a used minelab in good shape. Warranty can be transferred if too much time hasn't passed. If you can expand your budget any you should consider it.
Apr 17, 2013, 10:21 PM
min 3 tone ID (low, mid, high) = MUST for a beginner
Target ID = Must for beginner
Depth gage (good for a beginner)
Turn on and go = must for a beginner
Garrett Ace 350
Teknetics Delta 4000
Maybe a used Whites MXT
just to name a few for someone just starting out but that doesn't want the bottom of the barrel and that have some sort of features/extras
HH and good luck in whatever you decide
Last edited by lonewolfe; Apr 17, 2013 at 10:25 PM.
Apr 17, 2013, 10:23 PM
ONe big feature of Minelab, is that all the knobs go to eleven! That's what we call the MInelab advantage.
Apr 17, 2013, 10:51 PM
Fisher F2 $199.00 sweet machine!
10 Gold 18K 14K 10K
5 Silver .925
Apr 17, 2013, 11:07 PM
this is like asking what is best fishing reel,golf club,chevy vs ford....on and on...I say rent,rent,rent....then buy
I dont care which machine you use...you're gonna dig trash.
an extra thousand bucks aint gonna solve that.
Apr 18, 2013, 01:11 AM
MINELAB XS-2 Pro ....... XTERRA 305 ....... EXPLORER SE PRO
well first off I've never used the AT Pro
Originally Posted by BryanM362
So I am going on what I think the Big difference is.
the AT Pro doesn't have the features the Minelab Explorer has
one of them
FBS (Full Band Spectrum : 28 frequencies operating simultaneously over a range from 1.5kHz to 100kHz.)
or BBS (Broad Band Spectrum : transmits multiple separate frequencies over a range of 1.5 kHz to 25.5 kHz. All multiple frequencies are transmitted at the same time, spread over a wide spectrum. )
as I said (Spoiled)
Not trying to be rude, or Brand Loyal so much as,
trying to be honest on my mindset.
as I said earlier, you (I) still need to swing over the object so
no matter the cost of the detector if You (I) don't swing over it, And Dig
neither of us win, but I'd feel out of place swinging anything else.
and not hearing what I Do.
Last edited by jeff of pa; Apr 18, 2013 at 01:24 AM.
Apr 18, 2013, 06:42 AM
So, what is the outcome of the frequency things you mention? Better target ID? Better depth?
Originally Posted by jeff of pa
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