Mine lab excaliber has new batteries but is not working.

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I can hear a click when I turn the detector on but am not getting a good signal when i pass the coil over any object. It was working correctly before it's ride in my luggage on the plane. This detector has flown many times without a problem. I replaced the batteries, cleaned the connections. It does get a signal sometimes but it is not a good solid signal. I'm on vacation and planned on treasure hunting for two weeks. What a bummer! If you have any ideas please help. No mine lab dealers where I am.
 

Jason in Enid

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Sorry, sounds like it finally died from one too many baggage monkeys throwing it around.
 

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I can hear a click when I turn the detector on but am not getting a good signal when i pass the coil over any object. It was working correctly before it's ride in my luggage on the plane. This detector has flown many times without a problem. I replaced the batteries, cleaned the connections. It does get a signal sometimes but it is not a good solid signal. I'm on vacation and planned on treasure hunting for two weeks. What a bummer! If you have any ideas please help. No mine lab dealers where I am.

If you hear a click when you turn it on and some indicators show the computer part is on. Your problem is in the coil connection line from coil to computer. Check these connections!!! Frank... 111-1 profile.jpg
 

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If you hear a click when you turn it on and some indicators show the computer part is on. Your problem is in the coil connection line from coil to computer. Check these connections!!! Frank...

Not necessarily. An impact to any one of the knobs could have damaged the pot. A hard knock could have cracked any one of the solder joints. A bad o-ring could have let in a drop of saltwater in the past and it has finally corroded a spot on the board to the point of failure. Non of these are vacation fixable.

Any time a detector suddenly goes from working fine to not working, something major has happened.
 

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Well, I have got to say this. I have been repairing electronic equipment since the late 50's when a started a radio repair business. There are two types of pots (Variable Resistors) one has a wire wound loop and a wiper arm and the other has a carbon/graphite ring and wiper. I have never seen a mechanical failure of either, only burnouts from over voltage. The connection tabs on them are usually fairly heavy, in fact a lot of the newer equipment has them soidered to a board.
The bad '0' ring is a possibility, but may be field repairable and is the area I first suggested. I still say the coil to computer box connections are most likely. Did you check them yet? Frank...
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Bmonty can you shoot some video of how it sounds when turned on and over targets....that would really help, and I am with Jason, it would be a tuff fix even for me if I were on vacation...


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Jason is correct, this is a common issue with the Excalibur on the Discriminate knob pot and the volume Knob pot...that's why minelabs started years ago hot gluing them but it still happens but less I believe....one sharp blow to the knobs on the control pod and it will break loose the 3 solder joints to the PCB. I just repaired one that I had done some modifi work to and the box got banged up bad during shipping, notice the box is soaking wet also. It was a hard repair to diagnose because two of the three solder joints were just hairline cracks, the machine would still work but erratic. I only found it because I started replace pots... here are some pictures of the hot glue, and the other 5 connection pot/pcb which seems to be less of an issue, as you can see in one of the pics one has been repaired, not my job but mine did not look much better because you have to restore the connection and all that is left is the thin copper printed circuit.
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bmontymi

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If you hear a click when you turn it on and some indicators show the computer part is on. Your problem is in the coil connection line from coil to computer. Check these connections!!! Frank... View attachment 961731

"Will check the coil connection . Thank you all for your prompt responses. I don' t believe I have enough knowledge to tear this apart and fix it if it is the pots. Since it is an underwater machine, I'd probably ruin it for good. Thank you all again. "
 

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"Will check the coil connection . Thank you all for your prompt responses. I don' t believe I have enough knowledge to tear this apart and fix it if it is the pots. Since it is an underwater machine, I'd probably ruin it for good. Thank you all again. "

"My husband took off the pinpoint knob and put it back on. Can't believe this solved the problem but it seems as if it did. He is running out to the beach and I'll keep you posted. He never would have tried the pulling the knobs without your encouragement. Thanks again!!!"
 

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Well, I'm glad that he is back up and running FOR NOW, but means there is a bad connection on the pot and it will fail again. Keep your fingers crossed that it survives the rest of the vacation!
 

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I would run and hurdle any thing in my way of detecting

if that happen to me i would be sick until it was fix may be his next find will buy him a new detector
lots of luck


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Well, I'm glad that he is back up and running FOR NOW, but means there is a bad connection on the pot and it will fail again. Keep your fingers crossed that it survives the rest of the vacation!
Well, based on the way it recovered, I will have to agree with Jason. Your troubles have just begun. That connection to the pot has either never been soldered ( an over site in production that I have seen before) or the solider connection was weak to start with and broke. It's a shame, My detectors, for over 45+ years have never broken down. Is quality slipping? Frank...
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The trip to the water was not good. I believe you are correct and some solder broke loose. As soon as the detector got wet it was erratic again. The problem seems to be with the pinpoint knob. He is confined to the beach after it drys out. Thanks again for your help.
 

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bmontymi

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The trip to the water was not good. I believe you are correct and some solder broke loose. As soon as the detector got wet it was erratic again. The problem seems to be with the pinpoint knob. He is confined to the beach after it drys out. Thanks again for your help.

We sent the metal detector to mine lab for repair. The sent it back with a note saying they no longer support the first generation Excalibur. Go figure!
 

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Call Kellyco and check with their Minelab repair department, sometimes they can repair the sword excals with parts they have..






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Being it is a Sword model I would call Kellyco and ask for Dave or his brother like TH said. :thumbsup:
Parts are around for this model and some interchangeable.


As soon as the detector got wet it was erratic again
Constant erratic would be broken solder connections. Bad coil..in and out of the salt water......Getting wet then erratic could be a few different things, leaky pod, bad o rings..but the more likely for that is a bad coil wire or coil. Best thing to do is take it into the saltwater slowly and see what point it does start to false. Submerge the coil first, give it a few minutes then slowly walk it in to just before submerging the pod, give that a few minutes before being to fully submerged.
 

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