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  1. #1
    us
    Apr 2013
    Maple Valley, WA
    White's V3i, Tesoro Vaquero, Fisher F75
    10
    7 times
    Metal Detecting

    Problem detecting old town site

    Yesterday I went to an old town site. I'm fairly new to metal detecting and the Tesoro Vaquero in particular.
    Firstly, I had an extremely difficult time finding a spot to ground balance. Regardless of where I placed the coil, it would beep. The ground was full of old nails and iron.
    Once I balanced, I kept creeping the discriminate up until I was finally on max. Even there, each swing gave me a beep, beep, beep with some scratchy iron in between.
    I could not make a swing without at least a few signals sounding good. I dug a ton of old nails and iron. I also switched to a 5.3 concentric, the only other coil I have for it.
    What I did find is if the signal sounded good in discriminate, but did not sound good in all metal, I started to ignore.
    So how come I can't discriminate most of the iron on max?
    Any tips or pointers from Vaquero users in a turn of the 20th century town site? I have purchased and read the Tesoro Tejon / Vaquero book.

    Perhaps I should be using a different detector on this site. I also have a Tesoro Deleon with standard coil and a White's XL pro with a full range of coils.
    The only one I'm really familiar with is the Deleon.
    I'm mostly invested in coin shooting

    Thanks in advance.
    Last edited by taiwest; Apr 27, 2014 at 12:41 PM.

  2. #2

    Apr 2012
    Clark County Washington
    Tiger Shark 8" coil, vaquero 8"x9" and 5.75" WS, clean sweep coil, Gray ghost deep woods headphones Whites TRX pointer , Garrett gold stinger
    1,032
    250 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    I don't have a vaquero, but my tesoros hit hard an deep or large iron or like any detector they like the sound of circular objects... Old town sites do have iron relics that may be of interest to you tho... When looking for coins and raising the coil high off the ground And still getting a loud tone I am pretty sure it is too large for a coin... A pin pointer that doesn't sound off on the surface when you have lifted the coil and still got a loud signal is a dead giveaway that there is no coin near the surface... Small coils can help in junky areas as well as reducing the sensitivity and limiting yourself to shallower finds.... Running high discrimination and giving up gold and nickels will make poorer targets chopped .. I like to dig up some of the iron to find out what it is... Having read the books you have probably tried these things! If I had it all to myself I would just dig up a lot of the iron that could be masking good finds.. At the turn of the century people didn't trust banks, there is always the potential of finding a cache of coins in a jar...
    Last edited by Hot zone; Apr 27, 2014 at 01:06 PM.
    It's no wonder truth is stranger than fiction. Fiction has to make sense. Mark Twain

  3. #3

    Apr 2012
    Clark County Washington
    Tiger Shark 8" coil, vaquero 8"x9" and 5.75" WS, clean sweep coil, Gray ghost deep woods headphones Whites TRX pointer , Garrett gold stinger
    1,032
    250 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    I try to use the iron finds to tell me something... Are they items from the barn or the house... Can the perimiter of the house be determined... And possibly the front entrance...flowers, shrubs still growing? Foundation? Limiting myself to the most likely areas and digging up some junk... When you could work all day for a dollar, every penny was valuable here out west! Good luck!
    It's no wonder truth is stranger than fiction. Fiction has to make sense. Mark Twain

  4. #4
    us
    MUD(S.W.A.T)

    Apr 2005
    Location: Undisclosed
    I use, Whites MXT and Garrett AT Pro.
    8,003
    894 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Banner Finds (1)
    Keep hunting, you'll learn to listen to the Iron and pick out the higher tones.

    Keep @ it and HH !!
    TAG: MUD(S.W.A.T)
    GEAR: Whites MXT and Garrett AT Pro.
    LOCATION: Undisclosed
    EXPERIENCE: About 9 Years
    E-MAIL: mudswat1979@yahoo.com
    "Where you find Silver, you should find Gold."

  5. #5

    Mar 2007
    Salinas, CA
    Explorer II, Compass 77b, Tesoro shadow X2
    13,667
    10062 times
    Banner Finds (4)
    tai-west, you're doing something wrong. That machine should be able to effortlessly pass individual iron nails. Be aware that you have to play with swing speeds. ie.: you can't "stop on the target" and so forth, as that's a motion machine (albeit fairly slow motion).

    I'm assuming you've learned NOT to hunt in "all-metal" (if I understood your post correctly), when hunting a site that's riddled with nails. So once you're in disc. mode, with the disc. knob raised up so that you're eliminating individual nails . You can determine that point on the knob by passing sample nails in an air test. Slowly advance it till the passes of the nail start to "crackle" when air-testing.

    Next I think you are confusing one-way sparodic "chatter". That machine of yours is prone to chatter over items you're rejecting (especially if they're near the disc. setting point, or very close to the coil, etc....). So you have to learn about "repeatability". If you only hear an occasional beep or flutter, but it's not repeating IN THE SAME place, then pass it up. To be sure, you can try various directions over the target (360 degree slow-move-around-sampling). Because if it's a coin trying to hide next to a nail, then sometimes trying different angles of sweep can bring in a certain direction that begins to "repeat". But otherwise, pass one-way flutters.

  6. #6
    us
    Apr 2013
    Maple Valley, WA
    White's V3i, Tesoro Vaquero, Fisher F75
    10
    7 times
    Metal Detecting
    Thanks for the advice everyone. I think I was having problems with my ground balance, as the ground was so dirty, I could not find a clean spot. Since then, I have been trying some cleaner areas, and notice when I don't get the GB in the ballpark, it will sound off constantly.

  7. #7
    us
    detectingarizona

    Feb 2013
    tempe, arizona, usa
    bounty hunter challenger, and Ace 250, gold nugget bucket!
    128
    20 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    you might want to try getting a rod to hold a decent magnet on the end to clear a hole of nails and junk iron. just a thought, never tried it, but have seen people do it while hunting in iron filled rivers

 

 

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