The Nazi Cross

CincinnatiKid

Bronze Member
Nov 5, 2013
2,079
1,220
Cincinnati Ohio
Detector(s) used
XP Deus, Garrett ProPointer
Primary Interest:
All Treasure Hunting
Thanks again John Winter. Most informative.
I recently had the privilege of examining and evaluating a coworkers WW2 coins. All from Europe, most from Germany. I was shocked to realize how far the swastika was forced into daily life...
My coworker awarded, "pick of the lot", for my service. I humbly declined.
Peace ✌
 

Treasure_Hunter

Administrator
Staff member
Jul 27, 2006
48,453
54,868
Florida
Detector(s) used
Minelab_Equinox_ 800 Minelab_CTX-3030 Minelab_Excal_1000 Minelab_Sovereign_GT Minelab_Safari Minelab_ETrac Whites_Beach_Hunter_ID Fisher_1235_X
Primary Interest:
All Treasure Hunting
Desertpile please keep politics out of all forums except our politics forum...

Posted From My $50 Tablet....
 

Last edited:

flatbutton

Bronze Member
Aug 21, 2013
1,460
1,131
Eastern N.C.
Detector(s) used
Teknetics T2 SE, Tesoro Sand Shark,Nautilus DMC 1, Garrett Grand Master Hunter,Garrett Master Hunter 5 , Whites Coinmaster 5000/D
Primary Interest:
All Treasure Hunting
Another good read as usual John
 

Charlie P. (NY)

Gold Member
Feb 3, 2006
13,004
17,107
South Central Upstate NY in the foothills of the h
Detector(s) used
Minelab Musketeer Advantage Pro w/8" & 10" DD coils/Fisher F75se(Upgraded to LTD2) w/11" DD, 6.5" concentric & 9.5" NEL Sharpshooter DD coils/Sunray FX-1 Probe & F-Point/Black Widows/Rattler headphone
Primary Interest:
Metal Detecting
Here's a couple US tokens. It was a good luck symbol before it was adopted by Hitler.

IM000540.jpg
IM000541.jpg
 

jamey

Silver Member
Feb 3, 2007
3,069
1,924
Primary Interest:
All Treasure Hunting
been around for thousands of years
 

OP
OP
John Winter

John Winter

Hero Member
Aug 23, 2014
520
381
England
Primary Interest:
Metal Detecting
Here's a couple US tokens. It was a good luck symbol before it was adopted by Hitler.

Thanks for your comment, but I think that you may have misinterpreted my post, which is about a detectorist finding an interesting medal ... nothing at all about the swastika.
 

pong12211

Bronze Member
Jan 5, 2013
2,487
947
North central Pa.
Detector(s) used
Garrett at pro/Garrett pro pointer
Primary Interest:
All Treasure Hunting
It's like anything else it's all in how you interpret it. Hitler made it a sign of evil 300 years from now it could be green peaces logo for all we know.
 

Charlie P. (NY)

Gold Member
Feb 3, 2006
13,004
17,107
South Central Upstate NY in the foothills of the h
Detector(s) used
Minelab Musketeer Advantage Pro w/8" & 10" DD coils/Fisher F75se(Upgraded to LTD2) w/11" DD, 6.5" concentric & 9.5" NEL Sharpshooter DD coils/Sunray FX-1 Probe & F-Point/Black Widows/Rattler headphone
Primary Interest:
Metal Detecting
Thanks for your comment, but I think that you may have misinterpreted my post, which is about a detectorist finding an interesting medal ... nothing at all about the swastika.

Understood - the post after your thread starter introduced the swastika into the thread before I arrived.

Your chum's "Mother's Cross" is an interesting find for sure and one I wouldn't expect to turn up. But they did have a swastica in the center as well.

nazi-woman.jpg
 

Last edited:

Metal Illness

Hero Member
Jul 1, 2011
610
722
Englewood, Ohio
Detector(s) used
Minelab E-Trac
Primary Interest:
All Treasure Hunting
"The Cross of Honor for the German Mother": Three-Tiered Medal for Mothers with Four or More Children (1938)
To increase the birthrate, the Nazi regime ran a non-stop propaganda campaign that glorified starting a family and having children. One manifestation of the Nazi "cult of the mother" was the "Cross of Honor for the German Mother" (also known as the “Mother Cross”), which the NSDAP awarded in Hitler's name to mothers with four or more children. The Mother Cross was first awarded on Mother’s Day in 1939; that year alone about 3 million women qualified for the honor, which was supposed to be awarded only to “genetically fit,” politically reliable, and socially worthy German mothers. The crosses were awarded according to the number of children a woman had: bronze (level three) for four to five children, silver (level two) for six to seven children, and gold (level one) for eight or more children. Award recipients were chosen on the recommendation of either the Nazi party or government officials (the mayor, for example). A number of financial privileges were connected with this honor, including preferential service when shopping. (The receipt of a Mother Cross, however, was not tantamount to permanent recognition. For instance, it could be revoked if a mother ceased to be “worthy”: if she neglected her children, cheated on her husband, or exhibited problematic behavior. ) Additional honors were awarded for other "exceptional birth performances." For example, Hitler himself served as godfather to the tenth child in any family.

I found one of these in South West Ohio. I found this across the street from my house. The house was built in 1908, my house in 1969, it's obviously an older plat with newer homes added along the way. My neighbor let me detect his yard. Over a couple week period I found a Merc. couple war nickels, 40-50 wheaties, some other relics and this, the Honorary Mother's Cross. I had no clue what I had found, and I was pretty sure the word Mutter translated to Mother in english. I googled the words on the front and was amazed at what I had found. The article I will copy and paste tells the story.

I talked to Charlie and his wife, I was going to return it to them if it was passed down to them. They are in their early 80s and have been in their home since 1949. They told me it was not theirs, and they had no family coming from Germany post WWII era. So how this piece of Nazi Propaganda from Germany ended up in SW Ohio remains a mystery.

The back of the cross has the date 16 "Dezember" 1938 and a facsimile of Hitler's autograph. This was the date of inception for this propaganda campaign. The HISTORY uncovered by our hobby is so COOL!

Joseph Goebels was (Hitler's #2 man) and propaganda specialist. His wife was awarded the first Mother's Cross and ironically murdered her 4 children, and then the Goebel's committed suicide when the Russian army decimated and took over Berlin.

Thanks for looking, Bill
 

Attachments

  • Mother's Cross Front.JPG
    Mother's Cross Front.JPG
    64.9 KB · Views: 76
  • Mother's Cross.JPG
    Mother's Cross.JPG
    62.4 KB · Views: 85
OP
OP
John Winter

John Winter

Hero Member
Aug 23, 2014
520
381
England
Primary Interest:
Metal Detecting
That's a super find Bill. Is it a silver one? You have basically repeated the story I told, but with your permission I'd like to add your find and details from the latter part of your post to my blog. Please advise.
 

Metal Illness

Hero Member
Jul 1, 2011
610
722
Englewood, Ohio
Detector(s) used
Minelab E-Trac
Primary Interest:
All Treasure Hunting
Sorry John. I didn't click your link because I knew the story on a personal level. A different story (article) from the one I posted listed the history of the demise of the Goebel's. Mine is a Silver Plated version, bummer about the bottom section of enamel/porcilin being broken. Yes John you can use my post if you wish, send me the link to your blog I would be interested in following the conversation on this topic.
Regards, Bill
 

CincinnatiKid

Bronze Member
Nov 5, 2013
2,079
1,220
Cincinnati Ohio
Detector(s) used
XP Deus, Garrett ProPointer
Primary Interest:
All Treasure Hunting
My apologies, I guess I shouldn't have mentioned swastika.
It was the first thing I automatically thought of after reading Nazi...
Peace ✌
 

Rodbuster209

Hero Member
Oct 26, 2010
832
622
Northern California
Detector(s) used
MineLab SE, Excaliber 1000, Sovereign, White's SpectrumXLT
Primary Interest:
All Treasure Hunting
Without reading it my first thought was going to be it is about the Iron Cross that they issued.
 

NOLA_Ken

Gold Member
Jan 4, 2011
5,214
4,178
Formerly New Orleans.. Now Pueblo Co
Detector(s) used
several, mostly Garrett
Primary Interest:
All Treasure Hunting
When I collected WW2 German stuff the Mothers Cross was probably my favorite non military medal. I got started in collecting after I bought a box of German insignia, medals and other gear at a yard sale and that cross was in with it all. I always liked the look of it.
 

CincinnatiKid

Bronze Member
Nov 5, 2013
2,079
1,220
Cincinnati Ohio
Detector(s) used
XP Deus, Garrett ProPointer
Primary Interest:
All Treasure Hunting
The "Mothers Cross" was indeed military based.
Please show me a "Mothers Cross" awarded in 1946.
Peace ✌
 

rick67

Bronze Member
Mar 29, 2014
1,612
1,725
Smithtown NY
Detector(s) used
XP, Whites, Garrett,
Lesche, T-Rex, RTG.
Primary Interest:
Metal Detecting
I've been detecting around a training camp for the German American Bund from 1930's. Finding a Mothers Cross would be like finding the Holy Grail to me.:notworthy:
 

Top Member Reactions

Users who are viewing this thread

Top