Have Drones affected your treasure hunting?

[Keppy]

Don't you have invasion of privacy laws over there

SS

No for every thing we get is to help and protect us ……….. But all it does is invade our privacy .. These dam drones will have the government and just plain people trying to spy on others … If i see one flying over my place i will shoot it down..

 

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[wecoyote]

I've always thought about getting into the RC hobby, I've watched them fly many times. I've got my eye on a helicopter right now, and I'll probably get a drone soon.

Bob

One of my helicopters. Just under 6 foot rotor span. Took 3 years to build.

 

[Keppy]

Check the after holiday sales. Some pretty impressive looking drones out there for under $150!!! Yup, had to be escorted out of the department! My drooling over them was making a safety issue.

Then there's the "Well honey, I went to buy a $5 HDMI cable but decided we really couldn't do without one of these" thing.............

You can still get them from ShopHQ for $108.00 i guess over Xmas they sold them by the thousand's so they are out there waiting to be shot down..

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

One of my helicopters. Just under 6 foot rotor span. Took 3 years to build.

Bell 47? Well OK - that you can fly over - just keep it over the trees.

My 85" Styrofoam park flyers on a very windy day.

 

[ConceptualizedNetherlandr]

Close enough to be swatted? Do so. Reckless endangerment. His rights end at my safety. Watching me, filming me/house on private property not visible from the road? Peeping Tom. Shoot it down. Trespass to retrieve said downed craft. Guess what.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

Don't you have invasion of privacy laws over there

SS

Interesting - isn't it. We have protection of search and seizure from authorities but personal privacy is local ordinance and can be all over the board. Noise ordinances, for instance. There are State laws against "unlawful surveillance". Here is New York:

§ 250.45 Unlawful surveillance in the second degree.
A person is guilty of unlawful surveillance in the second degree when: 1. For his or her own, or another person's amusement, entertainment, or profit, or for the purpose of degrading or abusing a person, he or she intentionally uses or installs, or permits the utilization or installation of an imaging device to surreptitiously view, broadcast or record a person dressing or undressing or the sexual or other intimate parts of such person at a place and time when such person has a reasonable expectation of privacy, without such person's knowledge or consent; or 2. For his or her own, or another person's sexual arousal or sexual gratification, he or she intentionally uses or installs, or permits the utilization or installation of an imaging device to surreptitiously view, broadcast or record a person dressing or undressing or the sexual or other intimate parts of such person at a place and time when such person has a reasonable expectation of privacy, without such person's knowledge or consent; or 3. (a) For no legitimate purpose, he or she intentionally uses or installs, or permits the utilization or installation of an imaging device to surreptitiously view, broadcast or record a person in a bedroom, changing room, fitting room, restroom, toilet, bathroom, washroom, shower or any room assigned to guests or patrons in a motel, hotel or inn, without such person's knowledge or consent. (b) For the purposes of this subdivision, when a person uses or installs, or permits the utilization or installation of an imaging device in a bedroom, changing room, fitting room, restroom, toilet, bathroom, washroom, shower or any room assigned to guests or patrons in a hotel, motel or inn, there is a rebuttable presumption that such person did so for no legitimate purpose; or 4. Without the knowledge or consent of a person, he or she intentionally uses or installs, or permits the utilization or installation of an imaging device to surreptitiously view, broadcast or record, under the clothing being worn by such person, the sexual or other intimate parts of such person. Unlawful surveillance in the second degree is a class E felony.

 

[Turbo21]

From your own link:
"Eventually, owners only had rights to airspace that they could reasonably use. It would be impractical for the development of air travel for individual landowners to own all the air above them, because airplanes would be constantly trespassing."

"In the United States, the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) has the sole authority to control all airspace, exclusively determining the rules and requirements for its use."

"the U.S. Supreme Court declared the navigable airspace to be "a public highway" and within the public domain. At the same time, the law, and the Supreme Court, recognized that a landowner had property rights in the lower reaches of the airspace above their property"

You are not the FAA. You are not the law. and You DO NOT own all the air space over your property.

Correct. I do not own all the airspace. But like you said reasonable use. I have an airport very close to me and I am right on the flight path for the landing strip. So sometimes we get private jets rattling our windows

A drone or plane flying 100 ft above my house wouldn't be an issue. But 20-30 ft. And there are going to be problems.

20-30 ft is reasonable use of my air rights and you are tresspassing. Same thing if you dug under ground from down the street

My comments above were for the other poster saying we don't own the airspace.

 

[RustyGold]

You can't detect on people's property without permission so why would it be any different to trespass with a drone?

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

You may be safe if you are within three miles of an airport.

There is a long standing rule that radio control aircraft cannot be operated within three miles of an active airport unless the control tower had been notified (and responded/acknowledged the request - the latter was added more recently).

http://www.faa.gov/documentlibrary/media/advisory_circular/91-57.pdf

 

[TreasurDiggrNY]

Here's a drone that I think we can all agree is quite useful.

 

[Higgy]

Around here... this would be the range of a .22 mag rifle.

Pretty good sport if you think about it. A silenced .22 rifle... a good scope... a lawn chair and a cooler full of beers... and the sky full of drones. Ahhhh!

 

[BosnMate]

I knew a guy who has since passed away, but at the time CB radio's were a big deal. People would put way more power than the law allowed into the transmitter, and use what they called a "slider," which went through the channels looking for a transmission. My friend flew RC's, and complained loudly about CB guys with silders shooting his planes down. The US Gummit probably used digital from a satellite, and would be impossible to interfere with, but these hobby ones are run off a radio frequency, and just a little technology would shoot them down. If drone's become a problem, seems to me some young guy with brains will start a company making "drone shooters," and keying your mic would be like pulling the trigger, and then the drones won't be a big problem.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

When I was a kid we lived beside an interstate and some trucks would have mega watt CB's that over-spoke our TV reception.

But since the last few upgrades in transmitters R/C models now moved off 72MHz into 2.4GHz and the transmitters make a 1:1 connection just like cell phones. The receiver recognizes the specific transmitter. Hundreds of models can be in the air at once and we no longer need a "pin board" to limit one model per frequency. The coded transmissions "skip" thousands of times per second to clear frequencies and are very hard to interfere with.

 

[Limitool]

Pretty good sport if you think about it. A silenced .22 rifle... a good scope... a lawn chair and a cooler full of beers... and the sky full of drones. Ahhhh!

YES it would... and suppressed .22 for close range and then the .22 mag for the one that's getting away!!!! I had 9 helium filled balloons years ago we let go one at a time. Had a blast shooting them down. Got them all... the last 2 were way out there also!!!!

 

[kayakpat]

drones are getting very popular hobby anymore, and already people are overstepping boundries and violating real airplanes and causing all kind of security issues. Right now there is not much on the way of restrictions, but they will be figuring restrictions out to put in place because of stupid actions by some. You can get a nice one for $69 dollars so they are gonna be all over. Privacy is only guarenteed by the constitution for spying on people by the government, not companies, or private people or your neighbor. Movie stars have been fighting the issue of privacy for years and they loose most of the time. That also is how I think Government agencies get away with it, actual companies do the spying and government buys the information. I imagine drones are going to be a real pain. I haven't actually seen one around here but some of the video that are on the internet really make everyday places look interesting from the air.

 

[wainzoid]

YES it would... and suppressed .22 for close range and then the .22 mag for the one that's getting away!!!! I had 9 helium filled balloons years ago we let go one at a time. Had a blast shooting them down. Got them all... the last 2 were way out there also!!!!

That sounds like a ton of fun. But I always consider what's beyond my target. From home, there is a couple directions in which it would be a couple mile to the nearest home or road. But then that's also the range of a 22 lr.
One of my favorite past times is hunting squirrel with the 22. But it makes me uncomfortable shooting up into the air. Especially when Im sharing the woods with camo'd archery hunters in tree stands.
You can never be too safe when shooting.

 

[CoilyGirl]

I live in the mountains of Tennessee. Any drones around here would get shot down.. It was an interesting read though and reminds me of how very different things are in different parts of the country.

Sick 'em Bubba!!!

 

[whammy]

I just gotta chime in. In central N.Y. I don't know what the laws are regarding drones. However, here in the country if a drone came over my pasture and spooked my horses, and god forbid one of them broke a leg, the drone would be shot down, and a very concerned effort would be made to find the owner. I might be old, but mess with my animals, and you better run like hell. Nothing worse than an old man with a grudge.

 

[NHBandit]

Sick 'em Bubba!!!

lmao.. goof..

 

[Professor of Engineering]

Hello Coinshooter,

Watching from 100 feet is one thing, but hovering near your head is unacceptable. I think this is becoming a fast growing hobby, but there needs to be some rules associated with the use, even if unwritten. Our hobby has them and is less intrusive than flying something in your face.

Regards,