Vallon VMC-1 + Military MD questions

[MikeyBugs]

Hello there. I'm wondering if anyone happens to have a Vallon VMC-1 in their possession that they'd be able to take detailed measurements of. I'm working on a 3D CAD project and I'm trying to design this detector.

Also, what other metal/mine detectors are used by the US military?

 

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[Terry Soloman]

Check it out - http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/other-brands/403399-vallon-vmc-1-military-pi-mine-detector.html

And - https://www.minelab.com/__files/f/4504/4901-0043-6 Operations Manual, F3.pdf

 

[Tom_in_CA]

There is nothing those can do, that a civilian metal detector, of some stripe or kind, can't do.

 

[Terry Soloman]

There is nothing those can do, that a civilian metal detector, of some stripe or kind, can't do.

I think he is designing a military display Tom.

 

[gollum]

The biggest problem you are going to have in designing and building your own detector is building it to Military Specs. I have a Schiebel MIMID. It is pulse induction, waterproof to 100 feet, foldable, and very rugged. I will post a pic of the motherboard later, and you can see that it was waaaay overbuilt. Uncle Sam paid about $3500 EACH for them.

https://schiebel.net/products/mimid/

The biggest problems with Ex-Military Mine Detectors is that the have no warranty, and people that can work on them are few and far between. The exceptions are if you buy Minelab F1 or a Garrett AML-1000 (Recon-Pro).

If you are building a military use display, let me know the parameters you need, and I will see if I can find something suitable, or show me what you have and tell me what you want it to do. I spent 14 years in both the US Navy and the US Army jumping out of airplanes, and working with electronic communications equipment........ oh, and blowing crap up! ;-)

Best of Luck - Mike

 

[MikeyBugs]

I'm actually not looking to buy one of these (although it wouldn't hurt, heh) but I'm also not designing a military display. I'm drawing a scaled design of this detector for military scale modelers to use. It will be in 1/35.

 

[gollum]

Here are some pics of the motherboard in my Schiebel MIMID:



All epoxied with a combination of through-hole and surface mount components. Top Notch Craftsmanship!

Mike

 

[MikeyBugs]

Ok? Looks nice but not what I'm looking for..

 

[MikeyBugs]

Is anyone able to help with measurements of the detector?

 

[Chadeaux]

Maybe trying to do a "model" (likely nonfunctional) for display only? Might help you get your answer.

Or check someone selling them out of the U.S. ... http://www.vallon.de/pdf/VMC1_leaflet_02_2016.pdf?rnd=6213F3A50c7480096FniFE5E8D95

 

[MikeyBugs]

I am trying to do a model. It's a scale model in 1/35. People have been asking me to do this so they could use it in 1/35 dioramas. But I'll give them a call. See if they are able (or willing) to share measurements.

 

[clayfox]

I know I'm a year late for this conversation - sorry.
My name is Clay Fox with iED Detection Systems LLC, the US rep/reseller for Vallon detectors.

MikeyBugs - Do you still need those measurements? I have some in my office.

Gollum - The MIMID is indeed a well made machine, and it's small. The issue with it (for non west-coast Navy EOD MU's :-) )is the lack of proper mineral soil adaptation. Vallon just revealed the new VMC4, which is less than 3 lbs, and has all the new detection ability, while being smaller than the MIMID. Also - I'm certified to repair VALLON detectors (Including MineHounds) in the US. My office is in PA. Like the MIMID, though, most repairs are not needed due to the high quality of manufacturing and QA testing redundancy. Many of the used military detectors are one or two firmware versions behind, but still have top-notch sensitivity.

Tom in CA - Military detectors are a different breed, and are designed for rugged use/abuse in wide temperature ranges, compatible with military RF spectrum management control and extensive testing, and also WATERPROOF to various extents. Also - Mineral soil compensation and rejection of environmental noises is far superior than most civilian models. The lack of bells and whistles normally stem from the need of rugged display/control versus commercial graphical display modules which break or can't be read in direct sun.