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    Quote Originally Posted by Chadeaux View Post
    Read a bit more carefully, and go back to his posts about the boxes he has already built. I know enough about Limitool that he isn't going to beg anyone for funds to do something. He's actually struggling over whether to accept donations from "ORGANIZATIONS" to build more toy boxes for disadvantaged kids. They are offering, he is struggling with whether to take the offer.

    He donated not only his time but paid out of his pocket to donate toy boxes to children.

    I understand the rules here, but Brad isn't breaking them because he is neither directly or indirectly asking for monetary assistance ... although if you get too close while he's working you might get drafted to help with finishing.

    Be well Terry.
    Organizations don't do crap unless there is something in it for them...I personally would take personal donations because our hard earned money is given from the heart.....whereas I believe corporate money has strings attached...Just my opinion. Happy Easter to all

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    Terry, I agree with SusanMN's post #8, What I read was Limitool was "offered" donations from other Forum members, but "Declined" those offers. Just sounds to me like a good guy trying to do a good thing, and not asking for anything other than advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sprailroad View Post
    Terry, I agree with SusanMN's post #8, What I read was Limitool was "offered" donations from other Forum members, but "Declined" those offers. Just sounds to me like a good guy trying to do a good thing, and not asking for anything other than advice.
    Ok, guys (and gals) I get the message. But my message has been turned around to sound as if I don't condone what Limitool is doing. I encourage L to do his fundraising. I would also say he should take any and all contributions. I'm sure he will get more out to where it will do good than the average fundraiser, which I believe is only 10%. My only message was that his post may be in contradiction to forum rules. I would ask that anyone who wishes to further the debate with me to send me a PM, before this turns into a spitting contest. Take care. TTC
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    Hey Brad.
    I only offer from my perspective ( note my clean hands..).
    Having met you helps to stand back and look at your project.

    Again ,only opinion.
    What you did was honor loved ones in an active ,constructive manner. That alone ( and much of the beginning you were alone in the concept) met your objective ,sort of.

    Now you are faced with continuing the gesture, should you choose ,and should you feel the results still meet your original goal or more importantly ,feeling.


    IF it is something you would expand by taking requests,seeking input ,donations ect. and make commitments to others vs staying solo ( neither is required ,you did what you set out to do , maybe).
    I would suggest forming a nonprofit. Or at least an account strictly for non labor funds towards project( s) with a charity as beneficiary should you cease project( s) or croak.

    If you are providing all the labor , I'd be cautious to not let demand outstrip your usual " crafting" being enjoyable/ therapeutic / hello sawdust ,nice to see you , and instead make it a drudge , too much work waiting demand.

    Were I handling donations for you there would be no commitment as to how many items would be produced.
    One mishap ( not you,l.o.l..) and then what?
    Then too ,you could work when the mood struck you ,rather than have to crank out more . Then more . And more.

    A charity named to receive the account should you cease could relieve concerns of donors ,and maybe some of yours.
    If allowing donations and continuing /expanding your project is what YOU feel is the way to go.

    Where do you want to go with what you started?
    Keep it limited to you and a dozen boxes a year or expand your production, or free source information to others under the names or initials of your loved ones to duplicate your efforts among other wood butchers , err ,craftsmen/ woman,youth groups ect.?
    Even if only ( only!) providing kits to assemble and finish were sourced from your production. How many groups from the homeless to troubled youth ,to society's elite , could work together for a good cause that leaves them feeling they did something good? All with an honored memory attached.

    The personal touch would be lost...or would it?
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    If you are legitimate in what you do and committed to the mission of its intent, then you should accept all means that comes your way to further that intent. Do not deny the good in others that want to be a part of that which you and others do to make life better but can do nothing other than give a few dollars.
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    Awful lot of text above and I still am confused as to what he is doing. Guess I came in on this story late.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryC View Post
    Ok, guys (and gals) I get the message. But my message has been turned around to sound as if I don't condone what Limitool is doing. I encourage L to do his fundraising. I would also say he should take any and all contributions. I'm sure he will get more out to where it will do good than the average fundraiser, which I believe is only 10%. My only message was that his post may be in contradiction to forum rules. I would ask that anyone who wishes to further the debate with me to send me a PM, before this turns into a spitting contest. Take care. TTC
    Probably best to leave forum moderation and discipline to moderators, I don't even see the point of reading off rules over something like this unless you are an aspiring mod yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by relic nut View Post
    I think it's great that you have inspired others in your community to want to help with the great thing you are doing. How they help is up to you. This will only add to the success of your kindness. If you don't need or want the Financial backing then allow them to participate in other ways. Maybe they can fill the boxes. The more help you allow the more children you can help.

    My hat is off to you Bud!

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    I think Relic Nut hit this one right on the head.

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    Donate your time and afford and work in homeless shelters and soup kitchens.
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    To all.... Thank you for your thoughts (mostly). And I apologize to those who I left in the dark with this thread. I guess at the time of the posting I was looking for advise / thoughts from those who knew what I was talking about. I guess I "assumed" to much but at the time / moment but that's where my head was at then. Below is a single link among many that will explain to those what I was asking about.

    TerryC.... Never would I ask for funds on Tnet nor have I asked for any funds anywhere. Believe me.... any mod on Tnet knows this. I'm sure you just didn't know what I was asking / talking about (sorry to those who didn't -my fault).

    And again.... to those who did offer from your heart last year to help me... THANK YOU!!!!!! But rest assured Terry I never asked them nor accepted. Those folks were following my lead and offering.

    Last year the Franklin PD. (ground zero) offered to fill my 14 hand made toy boxes donated to them to fill for needy families w/children in my daughter & grandsons deaths. They could have filled 20+ easily before their toy drive was over. That's why I added 4 more after the original 10 just before Christmas. They coupled their effort with the Franklin Rotary Club food drive. And I mean it WAS ORGANIZED!!!! I'm the one who came up short.... meaning not enough Toy Boxes!!!! I offered to do it again this year if they were willing. Yes, was the answer. I offered 20 up front this time to the Franklin PD.

    A few weeks later the Rotary Club offered monetary support of a few hundred dollars to help me. They wanted to make sure if I was willing to build them that last years effort could be repeated.

    So.... That's why I posted this thread because being funded was something that never entered my mind... EVER! It was between my conscience and desire. Now I'd like to do this in my own county for needy families / children and it's in the works now. I'm not rich or anywhere close to it. We live on a fixed income. So... I committed to 20 toy boxes for Franklin Co. 2017 and 5 here if the organization can be arranged. I can fund this effort.

    For those that know what I'm talking about.... "Where does donating and being funded... start and stop"? Those that answered... THANK YOU very much! I struggle with it. Maybe I'm being selfish and what I started could grow into something much larger to help others.... Brad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honest Samuel View Post
    Donate your time and afford and work in homeless shelters and soup kitchens.
    HS.... I totally would but I live on an isolated ridge top in rural Hickman Co. TN. My wife is crippled and I need to check on her very often. I have a large new wood working shop now and enjoy doing this for a hobby. I believe many folks can rally around a Toy Box to fill for a needy family w/children. The nearest shelter / kitchen to help is in Nashville 70 miles away.
    I am a true blue Patriot who believes in the original Constitution's meaning. I'll bleed blood to defend it and resist those who want to diminish or alter its meaning or those rights stated within the Constitution.

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    Others want the chance to do for others but have not the talent as you do so they reach out to your talent so they can help others through you........that's the way I see it.
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    Whatever you decide Limitool keep on with the good work!
    Far too little of this going on today.
    The world needs more folks like you!

    Noah
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    Now that I understand, let me say I am so very sorry for your loss. I cannot imagine the pain you must have.

    I think that what you do is completely your own decision and it will be the right one. Follow your heart.

    From an outsider's point of view, it seems that others were touched by what your actions and want to be a part of it in some way. Their intentions are to express their approval and to help going forward, but they may not understand the obligation that you might feel as a result of accepting their help. This may be an opportunity to expand the project to other woodworkers in the area or something another local charity could team up with you/others to carry on...?

    On a personal note, I once started volunteering a morning once a week at a local food bank. I was asked to help more and more as the years went on and I gladly did so (and enjoyed it a lot) but after a few years I just felt overwhelmed and like it was consuming my life. I ended up stopping completely. Finding a balance can be tough.
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    I have been a woodworker and acoustic guitar builder for years and I'm winding down now from woodworking and I have a number of tools in which I would donate.
    Handplanes I have plenty of. Let me know if you need one.
    Brad do what you feel is best and make sure you're taking care of yourself along with your wife.
    Always in my prayers.
    Rusty
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