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    Quote Originally Posted by pepperj View Post
    I spent a whole winter mapping, had about 2000 sites plotted out and the lovely Dell computer geek erased my hard drive and I lost it all. So I started mapping again had about 600-700 mapped out and the video card crashed in the XPS. Got pissed and bought an Apple had about 250 mapped out and for some odd reason it all disappeared one day when I had a glitch. I'm hoping to retrieve the info off the XPS when time allows me to do so in the future. So now I map an area out go find the farmer get permission to all his land and then I do the sites that are on the old maps for that farm. So I have 6 or so 250 acre farms, 3-1000 acre farms, lots of single farms 50-100 acre places. It seems now I just roll up say I hunt on this farm and that farm and they say that's good enough for them -so go ahead. I need more land so I can go in any direction of my home stop and hunt knowing the permission is there.
    Nice. I just returned the pair of brass railroad baggage tags I found this year to a family member who in return allowed me to hunt his farm ground. I am thinking several hundred acres here in northern Illinois. I have no idea how to do these google map overlay thingies that show you where old homesteads or houses were back in the day? I really would like to learn how to do this so I don't have to just go willy nilly wandering all over a field looking for evidence of some long gone structure. I will be inquiring of the farmers of any evidence of structures as they would know their fields pretty well I reckon. Anyhow, looking forward to doing some more field work this fall with new ground to hunt.
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    Not much. I am a tech stupid guy that can barely copy & paste. I'd really like to learn how to do that online google maps type research with the overlaying and what not. Never gave it much attention but, now I am starting to get more interested in field hunting. I'd like to know if I can find information on old homesteads or structures in these fields I will be hunting soon. Of course I will ask the farmers who work the ground for any helpful information as well. I wonder if there are YouTube videos for dummies like me to figure this out? Thanks for bringing up this topic.
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    Good hunting and good luck to all.
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    Another type of researching: I would guess that over 80% of my responses are based on research previously done or research to answer the thread starter's question.
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    Oh don't feel bad about not being able to do this or that with the computer, I'm in the same boat that's for sure. I take the old historical atlas that were drawn up in the late 1800's and get the map area that I'm interested in. This might even come from driving down the road and liking the lay of the land, having a hunch on something that might be there. Then using Google Earth I plot out the farm using the historical map. It's a bit of a challenge in the beginning trying to locate what is where, but there is always a trick or two. Churches don't move much, and a cemetery is better so I start using the corresponding roads to narrow down the search. Water ways are drawn on the maps but are often not true in shape or they will move some over time as will roadways.
    I tried overlays and I struggle with the whole thing so it's just old school plotting out where the site might be. Most 80%+ don't have any cellar hole signs looking at Google Earth or even driving by. Most have been flattened yrs ago by the farmers and it's just open fields, until I walk the actual land and detect. I've gotten to the point where I can locate the site within minutes of stepping out of the truck. The bonus is finding the other pre/post sites that aren't on the maps. Finding the sites and telling the farmer that there is was another located here or there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowfriend View Post
    I spend a lot of time researching for the history of places I find in Cochise County. I find homestead ruins mostly and try to uncover what happened there. Right now I am finishing up on some ruins in the Dos Cabezas area. The ruins are a ranch built by Jack Howard. He placed an ad for a housekeeper (1900) and hired on Mary Cummings. Formerly known as Doc Holliday's gal, "Big nosed Kate." She lived with Howard for thirty years until his death in 1930. It's just one of several research projects. It takes up a lot of my spare time on the internet and in the field. I don't have a metal detector but it sure is tempting. The problem is metal detecting takes up too much time and usually I get worn out getting to remote places. Attachment 1488753
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    Standing on what's left of Howard and Kates home in Dos Cabezas. The other ruin was his first home he built at southern tip of the Winchester Mohntajns of Cochise County. My arms are cut from bushwacking to the site. Wore me out.
    "I don't have a metal detector but it sure is tempting" Holy smokes!!!! That's like ordering up a steak dinner and only eating the vegetables! All that blood sweat & tears and no goodies!?!?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurios1 View Post
    Not much. I am a tech stupid guy that can barely copy & paste. I'd really like to learn how to do that online google maps type research with the overlaying and what not. Never gave it much attention but, now I am starting to get more interested in field hunting. I'd like to know if I can find information on old homesteads or structures in these fields I will be hunting soon. Of course I will ask the farmers who work the ground for any helpful information as well. I wonder if there are YouTube videos for dummies like me to figure this out? Thanks for bringing up this topic.
    There are. Is there anyone who can spend a little time showing you or someone with teenagers willing to show you? Sometimes it's easier to teach the hands! Some people can read manuals and watch vids till their eyes bleed & not catch on, but they can watch someone do it and pick it up in a heartbeat! Especially overlaying maps on GE. Once you do it you'll see it's easier than you thought. DO NOT get discouraged!!! Remember, a lot of us oldsters didn't have the net, google, etc. We went to libraries & historical Societies with bulging pockets of dimes for the copy machines. Then went home and spent hours putting it all together. Back in those days "Cut N Paste was exactly just that! When doing your researching, keep notes on where you found stuff in case you need to go back later. These days, bookmark EVERYTHING. And most importantly, Have fun with it!!!!!
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    My opinion: the research to hunting ratio should be about 9 to 1. I come nowhere near this ratio anymore, which is why I no longer find the gobs of stuff like some of you. ╦╦
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    I just found a place that appears to have around 10 cellar holes, all along colonial roads. I couldn't find the place listed online, so I don't know how many people know about it. I even see some barn foundations and cellar holes a few hundred feet off the trail. It is around half and hour away, so I think it will have to wait until the weekend. I am pretty sure I won't be the first metal detectorist there though. It doesn't show up on any old maps, not even the stonewall lined roads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryC View Post
    My opinion: the research to hunting ratio should be about 9 to 1. I come nowhere near this ratio anymore, which is why I no longer find the gobs of stuff like some of you. ╦╦
    Yup! Even doing hours of research, I still find only around 2 great colonial sites a year, with most producing a good amount of relics for only 1-2 months. I go to many places, and most of them aren't good. I went to thirty cellar holes earlier this year, and all of them were heavily metal detected and filled with trash, not one old (or new) coin or button during that part of the year. I did find a colonial site that produced a ton for two years, just by walking into the woods along a nature behind a school with my metal detector one day, no research at all to find that place. It all boils down to luck in the end. Good luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by coinman123 View Post
    Yup! Even doing hours of research, I still find only around 2 great colonial sites a year, with most producing a good amount of relics for only 1-2 months. I go to many places, and most of them aren't good. I went to thirty cellar holes earlier this year, and all of them were heavily metal detected and filled with trash, not one old (or new) coin or button during that part of the year. I did find a colonial site that produced a ton for two years, just by walking into the woods along a nature behind a school with my metal detector one day, no research at all to find that place. It all boils down to luck in the end. Good luck!
    Research finds the places.... luck finds the goodies there. The luck factor goes way up if you know where to look! ╦╦
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    I don't spend much time researching I just go out and play. My small town only has 2 tot lots and I try and hit them once a week if I have the time. I can knock them both out in about 2 hours. There are a couple other small tourist type areas that I try and hit every couple weeks. They don't take long either. Those fill my need for fresh drops and the dream of gold rings. I have a couple beach slots that turn up some coins here and there but give me lead weights. I have a guy I sell the lead to when I get a few pounds together. There is a third tot lot that is locked up unless there is a city league baseball game going. During the season I drive by that one when ever I have the time because sooner or later they will forget to lock one of the 6 gates and I can hit that one quick and no one has ever said a thing to me about it. This is my usual rotation.

    When it comes to the bigger archaeological type hunts I have a pretty good knowledge of the areas history and I try and find time to go to the old mining camps in the area. I also head out to areas people camp today deep in the wilderness but unfortunately those are usually too trashy to get anywhere even though the surface looks clean. I also keep an ear out when the elderly people talk about the places they hung out when they where young. Two days ago I found out the possible location if an old picnic area where the people of a little off grid community would get together in the 50s, 60s and earlier to hang out and play sports and have a big potluck. I'm going to start searching for that real soon.

    Long story short I just go where the mood takes me at the moment and I keep my MD in my truck all the time so when I see an opportunity I can jump on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigjdub View Post
    I don't spend much time researching I just go out and play. My small town only has 2 tot lots and I try and hit them once a week if I have the time. I can knock them both out in about 2 hours. There are a couple other small tourist type areas that I try and hit every couple weeks. They don't take long either. Those fill my need for fresh drops and the dream of gold rings. I have a couple beach slots that turn up some coins here and there but give me lead weights. I have a guy I sell the lead to when I get a few pounds together. There is a third tot lot that is locked up unless there is a city league baseball game going. During the season I drive by that one when ever I have the time because sooner or later they will forget to lock one of the 6 gates and I can hit that one quick and no one has ever said a thing to me about it. This is my usual rotation.

    When it comes to the bigger archaeological type hunts I have a pretty good knowledge of the areas history and I try and find time to go to the old mining camps in the area. I also head out to areas people camp today deep in the wilderness but unfortunately those are usually too trashy to get anywhere even though the surface looks clean. I also keep an ear out when the elderly people talk about the places they hung out when they where young. Two days ago I found out the possible location if an old picnic area where the people of a little off grid community would get together in the 50s, 60s and earlier to hang out and play sports and have a big potluck. I'm going to start searching for that real soon.

    Long story short I just go where the mood takes me at the moment and I keep my MD in my truck all the time so when I see an opportunity I can jump on it.
    Some of the stuff you mention above IS research. So, you are actually doing research. Also, those trashy areas you talked of means no one is detecting it. Under the trash is the treasure! ╦╦
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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryC View Post
    Some of the stuff you mention above IS research. So, you are actually doing research. Also, those trashy areas you talked of means no one is detecting it. Under the trash is the treasure! ╦╦
    It is a form of research. I guess what I was getting at is I don't shut myself in a room pour over old texts and maps. Maybe that partly because I've done some of that over the years when looking for camping and gold prospecting spots and now I just think of that information with a MD mindset.

    I also realise that under the trash is the treasure but the off grid camping spots I've gone to are so trashy that I can't even find a clean spot to GB my machine. I know the best idea would be to just start cleaning and see what I find and that's what I do. I need to find the time to spend several days at one of those camps just to put a small dent in things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigjdub View Post
    It is a form of research. I guess what I was getting at is I don't shut myself in a room pour over old texts and maps. Maybe that partly because I've done some of that over the years when looking for camping and gold prospecting spots and now I just think of that information with a MD mindset.

    I also realise that under the trash is the treasure but the off grid camping spots I've gone to are so trashy that I can't even find a clean spot to GB my machine. I know the best idea would be to just start cleaning and see what I find and that's what I do. I need to find the time to spend several days at one of those camps just to put a small dent in things.
    Yes, a trashy area can become a real pain. I would find good stuff under the junk. But, alas, nowadays, I only have just so many bends in my back before I must quit. I no longer do trashy. ╦╦
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