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  1. #31
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    I can beat the price hike some. E-85 burns fine in my fuel injected chevy trucks. It is 103 octane and I get no check engine light. Also boosts performance quite a bit. Usually I only go a quarter tank of E-85. I can go a 1/3 tank if I have to. I get about 20% less mileage per gallon of E-85 compared to E-10 gas. All gas in Colorado is at least E-10. Ethanol burns way cleaner than fossil fuel. E-85 is $2.09 here.

    Oh and the price hike is simply speculators in the investment markets. Not broken refineries, Wall Street! Sheesh!


    http://www.nasdaq.com/markets/gas.aspx
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    You want Government to "Help"?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecmjamsit View Post
    It is a state of emergency. It has been formally declared a disaster area. Yes the government should order a price freeze. No profiteering while folks are suffering. Same as during a war. Sometimes they add a "windfall" profits tax. Yes this is what I want.

    You just want cheap gasoline and expect that force and coerison will fix the problem. But the government does not lower gas prices, never have yet. The government INCREASES gasoline prices at both the state and federal taxes, and sometimes even local municipal taxes.

    If you want cheaper gas by way of government interference then petition your representatives to freeze tax collection on gas. That would save you 18.4¢/gal Federal tax, and 20¢/gal Texas state tax. And then, maybe, government can lower the price at the pump 39.4¢ /gallon. Without unforseen or unintended consequences.
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    Come to think of it our truck is a flex fuel vehicle, i should check out the price of ethanol.

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    Don't worry it won't be long before they get wind of E85 being used in race cars, and jack the prices. Makes more power but you have to use more to do so.
    We went from 480 cc injectors to 2000 cc injectors in our car to run E85 at the track.

    So far down here, gas has been hit or miss as to whether stations have any gas at all. Did find a little trick to beat the lines. Show up at 3 am at the 24 hr places. I did yesterday, there were only 3 other cars at the 24 pumps. When I went to work at 8 they were lined up out to the highway at the same place.
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    last I saw they are busy Gouging up here

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff of pa View Post
    last I saw they are busy Gouging up here

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    Yep, same here in SwPa. Closer to 3 bucks here.
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    That's just the cost with having a vehicle to drive. It's not like they have a gun to your head. That's the government's job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HighVDI View Post
    Yep, same here in SwPa. Closer to 3 bucks here.
    I'm surprised it is taking so long to reach $3 here

    $2.89 is a 40 cent Rise.

    (50 cents for me. I had a 10 cent a Gallon discount last time I filled up,
    trying not to waste my 10 cents per this time on such high prices, so I'm babying my Tank) 3/4 tank left. and long trip tomorrow to butcher etc. will do me in though

    the news keeps saying Gas is only up 7 cents .
    Where they get the 7 Cents I don't know.


    Officially up 7 Cents before the Gouging maybe.


    I should own a Gas station , I could become a multi Millionaire this week again
    Last edited by jeff of pa; Sep 10, 2017 at 09:36 AM.
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    Ours went from $2.13 - $2.89 in less than a week. Doesn't matter what they call it, it all comes out of the same pocket.
    At lest this time they have an actual event to blame rather than trying invent some fantastic lie to justify an increase.
    I would love to have been able to increase prices in our business when ever we needed more money. It just doesn't work that way if your not part of the monopoly. Because we have competition and pepple would go buy from them. It came down to whom ever had less overhead could survive on lower income got the customers.
    Not the same playing field for the big boys, they have more leverage legal or otherwise and they use it.

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    Legitimate service stations hardly make anything on gas sales. There just isn't any room for mark up with the competition a block away and if they can make a few cents a gallon they are lucky. The refineries charge what they need and alot of it is speculation of the future.
    The taxes you pay and the subsidies to the ethanol farmers far outweigh any price increase.
    The ethanol farmers are paid whether their crops fail or not and you pay for that too. It's not a system set up to benefit the average peson.
    If you're an ethanol farmers life is good. I have a buddy in Western Kansas that lives high off the hog now selling his corn to the feds. If his crops fail they even pay him more. Makes me want to think about a career change!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff of pa View Post
    I'm surprised it is taking so long to reach $3 here

    $2.89 is a 40 cent Rise.

    (50 cents for me. I had a 10 cent a Gallon discount last time I filled up,
    trying not to waste my 10 cents per this time on such high prices, so I'm babying my Tank) 3/4 tank left. and long trip tomorrow to butcher etc. will do me in though

    the news keeps saying Gas is only up 7 cents .
    Where they get the 7 Cents I don't know.


    Officially up 7 Cents before the Gouging maybe.


    I should own a Gas station , I could become a multi Millionaire this week again
    I guess we shouldn't be complaining when bottled water is going for $45 a case down south....just shows how ruthless society has truly become. Kick them when they're down should be the new motto on our coins.
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    Well you'd better have money to spend if you choose not to prep. Everything costs more when nothing is available and alot of businesses will make money off of the unprepared.
    My mom always said if you want to be dumb, you better be tough.
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    Just text daughter, still no power, so no gas, and no food.

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    California refineries were not affected yet the price of gas went up when the Texas hurricane hit; go figure. Simple answer: gouging based on false fear.
    Don.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mackaydon View Post
    California refineries were not affected yet the price of gas went up when the Texas hurricane hit; go figure. Simple answer: gouging based on false fear.
    Don.....
    Yep.

    I'm also wondering since Last night I hear Florida & or other southern states are
    Putting Limits on how high they can push the price.

    so the refineries may be making it up by making us pay for what they want to charge them
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