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    Just sitting waiting for a parking spot and a perp ran into our car....

    We went into the city to do some top shopping of grub, see some friends. While stalking parking spots I see a person getting into a car right in front of the bank, ya!. So being a double lane one way street I stop behind the parked car with the blinker on, and wait, and wait. The person is in no hurry, getting out of the spot, starts the vehicle, puts it gear, and we wait.
    Then we hear a crashing sound, yelling, somebody runs into the side of the car bounces off running down the street with a guy in a suit in hot on the perps heel yelling for somebody to stop him!
    It happened so fast I gathered my thoughts and the wife says "Lets go and see if we can help"
    Traffic clears, and I go down to the corner, only to see them rounding the other corner, by the time the traffic clears they're nearing the end of the next block.
    The perp jumps into a car and they bolt from the intersection, and another person snaps a photo of the car. Game over they have the information needed ( if car was legit). So I turned back to the original parking spot and pulled in.
    The cops arrive and it seems that it was a smash and grab from the jewelry store, and a wallet (which the perp dropped when he ran into our car.

    I asked the wife what would you do if the guy had a gun and shot somebody? She replied "I wouldn't get out of the car and chase them"

    I said that I would follow them in the car and play a case of bumper pool when I caught up to him. She said "But they'd sue you for hitting them, and what about insurance costs?"

    I just said " Look the guy ran out in front of my car, sucks to be a robber with a gun" Let the chips fall where they fall.

    Granted if the bumper pool happened on the sidewalk well I would have some explaining to do on that one.

    Things happen so fast in life one wonders is better to play the 3 monkeys or lend a helping hand?
    What would you do?
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    Help. So many people stand back and do nothing. That's how these lowlife criminals get away with so much. Some good citizens have stopped some horrific things in the recent past. Many times the media does not report these things, seems bad news sells better. It's time for the people to put a stop to it. Some would say it's just stuff, it can be replaced. But I say to replace those things will take work, time, and sweat. This time is my life, you steal my things I worked for, than you steal my time. And nothing is more valuable than time, we are all only allotted a certain amount.

    So stand up for what is yours and fight back, and help others fight back. This worrying about what the courts are going to say is a cowardly thing.

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    Unfortunately in todayís world the low life criminals and just general low lifeís (read generational welfare recipients) have all the rights and are catered to. Liberal judges always rule in their favor. So do what you can to help, just understand your probably going to be in some legal and of course financial trouble...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Actionman View Post
    Help. So many people stand back and do nothing. That's how these lowlife criminals get away with so much. Some good citizens have stopped some horrific things in the recent past. Many times the media does not report these things, seems bad news sells better. It's time for the people to put a stop to it. Some would say it's just stuff, it can be replaced. But I say to replace those things will take work, time, and sweat. This time is my life, you steal my things I worked for, than you steal my time. And nothing is more valuable than time, we are all only allotted a certain amount.

    So stand up for what is yours and fight back, and help others fight back. This worrying about what the courts are going to say is a cowardly thing.
    We were back at the scene, one lady spoke up and said that folks have to start taking fighting back instead of looking the other way. Folks are so afraid of getting hurt/sued/involved, but are the first to yell help it seems.

    Many years ago I was sitting in my roll-off truck in my business yard. I was watching these two guys with hockey bags booking it down the street and then going in behind a dumpster in a neighbouring parking lot right across the street.
    So I called 911- and reported it. The reply was "Well sir what makes you think that they're doing ANYTHING WRONG?" Well operator I'm watching two guys with lugging two large hockey bags in 35C weather, hiding behind a dumpster taking off their clothes and throwing theirs into the dumpster on a industrial business site. So either they sh** themselves or just did a crime and are changing"
    Next thing there was cops all over the scene, helicopter, good take down.
    Found out that the two had just did a home invasion and if I hadn't called it would of been just another open file in a cabinet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Actionman View Post
    Help. So many people stand back and do nothing. That's how these lowlife criminals get away with so much. Some good citizens have stopped some horrific things in the recent past. Many times the media does not report these things, seems bad news sells better. It's time for the people to put a stop to it. Some would say it's just stuff, it can be replaced. But I say to replace those things will take work, time, and sweat. This time is my life, you steal my things I worked for, than you steal my time. And nothing is more valuable than time, we are all only allotted a certain amount.

    So stand up for what is yours and fight back, and help others fight back. This worrying about what the courts are going to say is a cowardly thing.
    this is why i would like to conceal and also why i take MMA
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    I had an incident a couple years ago, I was driving home and a young woman can running across her yard screaming her head off and waving her arms for me to stop. I stopped and she almost climbed into my truck. It was one of those WTF moments because I had no idea what was going on. Anyway, I got out and seen that she had been beaten and was trying to get away from her husband. He came out of the house, all 130 pounds of him, screaming and calling her names and he looked at me and said 'who the f$#$ are you" I lifted my shirt tail (I'll leave it at that) and said "I'm the one who's going to keep you from hurting her" His eye's got REAL big at that time because I'm 6'2 and 260 lbs and has visibly pissed off at that time. It didn't take him very long at all to get back in the house. Anyway, the police showed up and apparently this guy had 3 warrants for his arrest and could have really hurt this girl. Later on I would see her in the grocery store and she would always come up and hug me and say thank you because she was convinced he would have killed her. She got her life together and is doing pretty good now. I would rather die trying to help someone than to live with the thoughts that I did nothing.

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    Oh wow, lookingharder, you're like, another one of my many heroes, lol.

    Yeah, I know about them wtf moments, getting them and giving them.....

    and uuhhhh, I am sssoooooo bad at bumper pool......

    let's just say.....

    PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY......

    Ya never know what one of them nine cats in my head, will do.....



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    I think everyone has a responsibility to do something if they see or suspect something isn't right. First responders and law enforcement do their thing for a reason. I'm not saying everyone needs to get personally involved, but at least make the call and give enough info as possible. If nothing is going on then everyone goes about their business but if something is going on that call can save someones life. And that someone is going to be a father, mother, brother, sister, child, or any other family/friend - could be mine, could be yours. We all need to speak up. I have never hesitated.

    Just before the holidays I saw a guy wreck into a utility pole. I stopped to help and he backed up and took off. When he went past me he looked like a zombie so i figured he was on something. I called 911 and followed him until the police caught up. While following him he hit another pole, a tree, and the guide rail. One of the front tires fell off but the car kept going, unbelievably. Luckily we were on a back country road and the cops got him stopped before he made it into town. My mind was made up that if the cops didnt get there in time that I wasnt going to let him get into town. I couldnt stand the thought of him running into a yard or playground full of kids. Sure this could have turned into a legal fiasco for me but I'd rather deal with that then watching someone get hurt. The guy was drunk and on meth. Be safe!

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    What would I do? Let's see...I may not be able chase them down as well as I used to, but after 36 years in LE (retired)...what do you think. 😁
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    I also want to add that I'm not the Chuck Norris, Clint Eastwood type or someone who has something to prove. It was one of those split second, only took a few minuets and it was over things. The drive home left finger grip marks in the steering wheel cover and a thousand thoughts of WTF where you thinking and how it could have went south in a hurry. I guess anyone other than the professionals who has done some really irrational action like running into a burning house to save your neighbor or climbed into a burning car to save the driver has the same thoughts afterwards. My wife and I used to certify people in CPR and it always fascinated me to hear stories of people who used their training at a restaurant or other public place to hear that they didn't even realize what they had done until after EMS showed up and took over. That's why I still feel that people are inherently good when the situation presents itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lookingharder View Post
    I had an incident a couple years ago, I was driving home and a young woman can running across her yard screaming her head off and waving her arms for me to stop. I stopped and she almost climbed into my truck. It was one of those WTF moments because I had no idea what was going on. Anyway, I got out and seen that she had been beaten and was trying to get away from her husband. He came out of the house, all 130 pounds of him, screaming and calling her names and he looked at me and said 'who the f$#$ are you" I lifted my shirt tail (I'll leave it at that) and said "I'm the one who's going to keep you from hurting her" His eye's got REAL big at that time because I'm 6'2 and 260 lbs and has visibly pissed off at that time. It didn't take him very long at all to get back in the house. Anyway, the police showed up and apparently this guy had 3 warrants for his arrest and could have really hurt this girl. Later on I would see her in the grocery store and she would always come up and hug me and say thank you because she was convinced he would have killed her. She got her life together and is doing pretty good now. I would rather die trying to help someone than to live with the thoughts that I did nothing.
    I really think that domestics is the worse thing I have ever tried to help out with.
    One time in a large mall parking lot I came across a guy pounding the deal out of a woman laying over a truck of the car.
    Being young and half crazy I stopped in the opposing parking row, jumped out and grabbed the guy by the throat, threw him to the ground and started giving a good load if his own medicine in return.
    The next thing I know I'm being beat with a club/bat! Here it goes his old lady is screaming and clubbing me to get off her old man.
    Yup, two going crazy on me then, lost a tooth, more scraps than s good bar fight.
    Note to self" Ask first then help"
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    The bad part about helping out in some cases pepper is you have your punks,then again, you have the pros.T he guys that know what they're doing and aren't afraid to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ogre1190 View Post
    What would I do? Let's see...I may not be able chase them down as well as I used to, but after 36 years in LE (retired)...what do you think. 
    Being retired does the awareness retire as well?

    Just that we have a friend and he's been out of the action for 15yrs but still as sharp as a cat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red James Cash View Post
    The bad part about helping out in some cases pepper is you have your punks,then again, you have the pros.T he guys that know what they're doing and aren't afraid to do it.
    Came across a security van parked behind a Home Depot parking lot. (I used it as a short cut going to a brokerage house for metals.) I saw a older model station wagon with a woman sitting behind the wheel fixed stare straight ahead. Blanket in the back seat covering something lumpy, the side door of van open partly. I tried to get the woman attention to ask her if everything was ok, no lookie look in my direction. I slowly rolled back wrote the plate # down and drove off, and once I was out of sight I called it in.
    Same response "Why would you think something is out of place sir" "Well just being observant I would say the a van with Medico locks on all the doors, thick secure window glass, beefed up suspension, heavy truck tires isn't a family van-so I'm going with an unmarked security van for valuables"
    Returned 45 minutes later more cops than a good movie set. Stopped and questioned why I was trying to go through the area, and I stated that I called it into the 911. My next few hours was been questioned at the local lock-up about what I saw.
    Story goes:Transit security van that does money pick ups was left running at a subway stop on the Young Line in Toronto. Perps drove off with van-how does this never make the news-and the first thing that comes to the mind is an inside set up job.
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    The only time I was ever arrested was for stopping a guy getting rough with a woman in a bar. Explained situation to judge the next morning, charges dropped, arrest expunged from record, so I am still clean. Sucked being in the drunk tank for a night, I guess I would do it again, but I don't go to bars anymore. It's been a while since I have witnessed anything intense like the OP saw. I prefer to keep to myself but don't think I could not try to help.

 

 
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