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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeBirdTim View Post
    Dave gives the best example. We can't even convince the government to get rid of the worthless penny, so how are we ever going to convince them to go cashless? The only reason we still have pennies is because the politicians are getting "perks" from the mining companies. Why else would you make something and take a loss on every one you made? Just getting rid of all the coins would cost the politicians billions in payola, so that's never going to happen.
    Well the penny has been gone for years now in Canada.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth1253 View Post
    Everyone is right, but it’s still hard to believe that one day a child will say the words, “What was money?”
    The child will say, What is a metal detector?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rook3434 View Post
    I guess my little 4S IPhone would be the same as a 4" coil to get in between the calls.
    With IOS12 being release next month, Apple will be dropping support on your IOS9. Time to upgrade to newer hardware.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gsignal888 View Post
    The child will say, What is a metal detector?
    That too. Kind of sad. Im so glad I was born in the last great decade the 80s and Im blessed to have seen a historic upset in 2016
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    I think they will continue to print bills and mint coins, they are steering the herd to use plastic in the majority of transactions but they have to feed the illusion of money with physical coins and bills. I just wish they would make the cents out of cardboard which would reflect their true value, lol. Actually drop the cents and nickels, and go to a dime as the smallest coin then round up any amount to 10c. Then drop the paper dollar and replace it with a dollar coin. A $2 & $5 coin would be great too. The present $1 don't circulate as people prefer the paper, but the coin is more durable and in the long run more cost effective as compared to the paper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slingshot View Post
    I think they will continue to print bills and mint coins, they are steering the herd to use plastic in the majority of transactions but they have to feed the illusion of money with physical coins and bills. I just wish they would make the cents out of cardboard which would reflect their true value, lol. Actually drop the cents and nickels, and go to a dime as the smallest coin then round up any amount to 10c. Then drop the paper dollar and replace it with a dollar coin. A $2 & $5 coin would be great too. The present $1 don't circulate as people prefer the paper, but the coin is more durable and in the long run more cost effective as compared to the paper.
    Great comment Im with you 100%
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    Quote Originally Posted by fistfulladirt View Post
    There are people today already happily accepting the mark. In the future one will not be able to buy or sell without it.
    Not looking forward to that.
    Tell us more about what exactly this mark is. If you don't know (because the original reference source was not clear, perhaps), that's fine, but admit that you're not sure. The reason that I'm requesting clarification is because people have been worried about that mark for around 1500 years now, and they haven't yet accurately described what it is. In fact, every time that someone has pointed it out during that time, they've been wrong. Going forward, I'd like people to be very clear about what that mark is before they start complaining about it because spinning folks up over fake news serves no useful purpose.

    Quote Originally Posted by Treasure_Hunter View Post
    Don't hold your breath. I have less than zero use for fake money.
    Our fake dollar bills, or our fake electronic dollars? They're both Monopoly money.

    Quote Originally Posted by FreeBirdTim View Post
    Dave gives the best example. We can't even convince the government to get rid of the worthless penny, so how are we ever going to convince them to go cashless?
    But that's not really what I said. It will happen, just not with the current generation of politicians. 30-50 years from now, the people running this country (and indeed, the world) will be people that have no attachment to cash, as will be the people voting for them. The cent will be long gone by then, but everything else will go at that point too - coins, bills, what have you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Rishar View Post
    Tell us more about what exactly this mark is. If you don't know (because the original reference source was not clear, perhaps), that's fine, but admit that you're not sure. The reason that I'm requesting clarification is because people have been worried about that mark for around 1500 years now, and they haven't yet accurately described what it is. In fact, every time that someone has pointed it out during that time, they've been wrong. Going forward, I'd like people to be very clear about what that mark is before they start complaining about it because spinning folks up over fake news serves no useful purpose.



    Our fake dollar bills, or our fake electronic dollars? They're both Monopoly money.



    But that's not really what I said. It will happen, just not with the current generation of politicians. 30-50 years from now, the people running this country (and indeed, the world) will be people that have no attachment to cash, as will be the people voting for them. The cent will be long gone by then, but everything else will go at that point too - coins, bills, what have you.







    "The reason that I'm requesting clarification is because people have been worried about that mark for around 1500 years now, and they haven't yet accurately described what it is."

    Would you please accurately describe it for me, Dave??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muddyhandz View Post
    So will people have to rent debit machines when hosting garage/yard sales in this cashless society?
    Or Paypal. Or swipe the buyer's credit card on your tablet or even phone. Or if you want to go really old school, you could take a personal check. That's not cash. How long have personal checks been around for now?

    Don't trust personal checks? I don't blame you. I don't like those either. Money orders are probably safer...and those are also not cash, and how long have those been around for?

    I don't understand why some folks think that cashless commerce is somehow new. Personal checks go back at least as far as the Roman Empire. They've existed in the US for...well, pretty much since the start. And do you know why some of those colonists were issuing and accepting the contemporary equivalent of personal checks? Because they were more convenient than cash.

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddyhandz View Post
    Oh, electronic payments with your zombie phones? Sure, you want 25 cents for this? I'll send a quarter to your e-mail right now.....
    Sound stupid?
    Very. What does one buy for $0.25 these days?

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddyhandz View Post
    Now look at everyone tapping their chips or phones. Groomed perfectly by the financial institutions.
    Groomed for what?

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddyhandz View Post
    "We pay for everything on our credit card so that we get the points reward." Yeah, the banks and credit companies are making boatloads of money!
    And what does that cost the person using the credit card? We already know that they get the points and rewards, but what does it actually cost them, assuming that they pay their balance off in full each month?

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddyhandz View Post
    If they don't enter it into the till correctly, then they have no idea as they cannot add simple math.
    Ironically, cashiers dealing with cash are probably the last remaining people in the developed world that have an actual need to know how to do simple math. (And really, they shouldn't. The register ought to be doing that for them.) I've argued before, and will argue again, that it should be dropped from the curriculum in public school. It's an obsolete skill for anyone other than a specialist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddyhandz View Post
    If they force me to get a zombie phone to pay for everything, then I'm off to live in the woods AGAIN! Screw this world!!!!
    There is always a certain amount of irony involved when someone gets on the internet and threatens to drop off the grid. (Again.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Shakakka View Post
    No, no, no. That's what they want you to think.

    The main reason they want a cashless society is because they want to track and TAX everything you do. Cash makes it easy for you to pay me, face to face, without Uncle Sam getting his cut. Not so with electronic methods of money transfer.
    They, as in the banks, or they, as in Uncle Sam? Because Uncle Sam is actually all right with cash. He really wants you to start using dollar coins in fact, as it would save him a lot of money if we all started doing so. But we refused, and now he's sad.

    Seriously. If you love cash and you love America and you love metal detecting, start using those damned $1 coins and get everyone that you know to start using them too. The government has your back on this.

    Quote Originally Posted by gsignal888 View Post
    Well the penny has been gone for years now in Canada.
    And good riddance. (To the Canadian penny, not to Canada. Although BC has been pissing us off lately. If you could convince them to put out their fires and stop making Seattle look like Beijing, that would be great.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by T.C. View Post
    "The reason that I'm requesting clarification is because people have been worried about that mark for around 1500 years now, and they haven't yet accurately described what it is."

    Would you please accurately describe it for me, Dave??
    I can't. I don't know what it is, but I do know what it is not. I can say that it has not been accurately described since the advent of Christianity, as every time that someone has said, "That's the mark of the beast!", they were wrong. For 1500 years, give or take.

    The next person to call it out may be right, but if we go by the statistics, they'll probably be wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth1253 View Post
    Everyone is right, but its still hard to believe that one day a child will say the words, What was money?
    I said that to myself just the other day.

    What money was is stuff with intristic value. What money is now is debt.

    The thing about using debt for money is that there will always be more debt than dollar bills used to pay debt. Otherwise you would be broke as opposed to being in debt.

    "In debt" is the way they like you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth1253 View Post
    Everyone is right, but its still hard to believe that one day a child will say the words, What was money?
    What do you mean one day? Have you tried to pay in a grocery store with a half dollar coin? Ever try to pay with the gold colored dollars? I tried to dump some of those dollars at the grocery. The little clerk was totally befuddled!!! Told her to call the manager over to teach her. God as my witness! He says "Wow I've heard of these!" He was still hesitant about taking them, so I whipped out my best BS. Pulled out a receipt from another store, asked for a pen & told him I wanted the cashiers full name & his. He said why? Told him he was refusing to accept U.S. currency as legal tender which is a federal offense punishable by twenty years in Federal prison. I kid you not! His hands were visibly shaking when he gave me my $.18 change. I know where the employees park so when I saw him standing in the door watching me, I started taking pics of all the plates. Bet he was dampening his linens for a week or two.

    So my friend, I think that day is a lot closer than you think.
    I know it's here, just need a bigger coil!

    I think I know what my last words will be....
    "Hold my beer and watch this!"

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    How's that Bitcoin treating you, Dave? Last time I looked, it had gone from $20,000 to $6,000 a bitcoin (whatever that's suppose to be). Also, over 800 different cryptos have gone belly up. You may think the dollar is worthless, but at least it still has some value. This crypto baloney is going to crash and burn soon, leaving thousands of suckers left holding the bag...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duckshot View Post
    I said that to myself just the other day.

    What money was is stuff with intristic value. What money is now is debt.

    The thing about using debt for money is that there will always be more debt than dollar bills used to pay debt. Otherwise you would be broke as opposed to being in debt.

    "In debt" is the way they like you.
    My answer would be old money was little pieces of art that had a value and people trade this art for different things and might have even got smaller art in return and then the art got very ugly so no one wanted it anymore. So now we have a piece on plastic crap with your name on it. Congratulations
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