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    Non-Metallic Digging Tool (Survey)

    Have been doing some R&D the last 3-5 months on a Non-Metallic digging tool I designed and would like to sell on the TN website. Looked around on the TN site...but could not find a "Survey" function anywhere... So thought I'd throw a picture out there and see what kind of interest there might be in the metal detecting world. Currently working with a local company to produce a sheath for said digging tool. Anyway...please respond with your thoughts...feedback...and or price point questions for both items. Have 5 different handle colors (Black, Orange, Green, Red, Blue)

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    Hello Got-Good-Tones,

    Interesting design! IMHO: The digger will need to be thoroughly tested in real world condition with multiple users...very important part of the engineering design process. After this testing it's either off manufacturing or to redesign. I do not know what software you are using for CAD, but if its Autodesk Inventor you can run a FEA on the object to determine weak areas in the design. Good Luck in your new product!

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    When I first started detecting I tried a plastic Campmor camping trowel, thinking it would be easy to wipe it under the coil.

    But it proved worthless in the local soil. Maybe in sand it would have been OK.
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    Most people will use their digging tool to pry on things occasionally such as roots, large pieces of metal, etc. How does it stand up to heavy pry pressure?
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    Yep...I've been testing in real world conditions. I've actually been abusing the hell out of it to see if I could break it...LOL Checking into the "GoFundMe" site to see about seed money to buy the equipment so I could mass produce it...About the only thing I've noticed so far is the tip gets a little bit rounded off from use...but you can fix that by just hitting it with a flat sanding disk.
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    flinthunter,

    I have not been able to break it yet...and I've been trying to break it...no luck as of yet in breaking it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Got-Good-Tones View Post
    flinthunter,

    I have not been able to break it yet...and I've been trying to break it...no luck as of yet in breaking it...
    Hi , Unless your digger has the qualities and hardness as Tempered Implement Steel and which you can get for free from junk yards and farms . You may want to reconsider. TP
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    tinpan,

    That's why it is Non-Metallic...so you don't scratch any possible "Really Good/Rare & Valuable Coins"...with any kind of "Steel" you stand a very good chance of nicking/gouging said valuable coins...while digging around in the hole...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Got-Good-Tones View Post
    tinpan,

    That's why it is Non-Metallic...so you don't scratch any possible "Really Good/Rare & Valuable Coins"...with any kind of "Steel" you stand a very good chance of nicking/gouging said valuable coins...while digging around in the hole...
    Hi , How many Rare coins do you think are in ground. The fact that ground conditions damage coins naturally reducing their value . Unless you have tried to dig a coin out of clay shale bank which is not the hardest ground I think you need to do more testing. . TP


    PS I know how to retrieve any target from the ground without marking it. TP
    Last edited by tinpan; Dec 03, 2018 at 11:01 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Got-Good-Tones View Post
    Have been doing some R&D the last 3-5 months on a Non-Metallic digging tool I designed and would like to sell on the TN website. Looked around on the TN site...but could not find a "Survey" function anywhere... So thought I'd throw a picture out there and see what kind of interest there might be in the metal detecting world. Currently working with a local company to produce a sheath for said digging tool. Anyway...please respond with your thoughts...feedback...and or price point questions for both items. Have 5 different handle colors (Black, Orange, Green, Red, Blue)

    Got-Good-Tones



    Hi , How do I use your design to retrieve a target at 7 inches which is a very modest depth for most modern metal detectors. So how you are more worried by handle colours than actual practical use. TP
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    Quote Originally Posted by flinthunter View Post
    Most people will use their digging tool to pry on things occasionally such as roots, large pieces of metal, etc. How does it stand up to heavy pry pressure?
    If he's using the correct plastic, it will withstand a rather surprising amount of abuse.

    Not my field, but I took a deep dive about a year ago for some stuff at work. Those engineering plastics should be redefining the way that we think about plastics, but it seems that nobody working outside of a few fields ever hears about them. This makes me sad.
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    Your photo makes your tool look like a square solid peg, with a chisel end. If that is so, it won't actually cut into the soil, You would be basically trying to shove a peg into the ground. So, as a surface coin popping tool, it may work fine. If you're cutting a plug, I don't think so. As for handle color, just a bright orange or yellow, so you can find it. Good luck to you.


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    tinpan,

    Quite a few really old coins still coming up out of the ground just recently...from what I can see on just TN...quite a few other metal detecting sites out there as well...Not worried about handle covers per se...just giving folks an option should they want a different color handle. Digger would come into action after digging plug and still unable to find target...like in or under tree roots...etc...etc or soil conditions that really suck...

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    Krey Gelder,

    Tool would come into action after digging plug...Yep...pretty much a square solid peg with a chisel end. Handle colors list is just for reference in case somebody wanted a different color handle.

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    perhaps a step back to reconsider . . . .
    the difficulty is 'magnetic', not 'metallic' (see above posters re technique)
    suggest looking at titanium (ebay)
    Bill

 

 
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