Whites and Garrett better step it up - Page 2
Welcome guest, is this your first visit?
Member
Discoveries
 
Page 2 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast
Results 16 to 30 of 47
Like Tree100Likes

Thread: Whites and Garrett better step it up

« Prev Thread | Next Thread »
  1. #16
    Charter Member
    us
    Jul 2012
    Blackfoot, Idaho
    White's GM2, GM3, DFX, Coinmaster, TDI-SL, GM24K, Falcon MD20, old Garrett Masterhunter BFO 'Way Too Cool' dual 18 Watt UV light
    2,765
    3539 times
    Prospecting
    Basically, what they're saying is Whites and Garrett better start selling their machines at a price point their customers like. That's what cost us our industries in the first place. Expecting American companies to compete with cheap foreign labor. Of course, they don't want THEIR wages and benefits cut.
    Jim

  2. #17
    us
    A-Team = Reasearch and Recovery Team. If you don’t care about the past generations of centuries ago, then your current thought of today will always be incomplete, it all matters folks.

    Aug 2013
    Steel city
    Whites DFX, Notka Makro Simplex. Folks the price don’t mean everything, the question is are you willing to put in the time to learn the machine, experience will pay off I guarantee it.
    404
    543 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Like I said I don’t mind paying for made in America , we could have did something about this long ago, oh excuse me we did we sold our soul to the devil and that changed things forever. Remember most companies overseas are owned by people living here.they simply don’t pass the savings on to consumer they keep it, so you figure it out

  3. #18
    Charter Member
    us
    Jul 2012
    Blackfoot, Idaho
    White's GM2, GM3, DFX, Coinmaster, TDI-SL, GM24K, Falcon MD20, old Garrett Masterhunter BFO 'Way Too Cool' dual 18 Watt UV light
    2,765
    3539 times
    Prospecting
    BUT...,and it's a big BUT, that's not the case with either Whites or Garrett, the two companies you disparaged in your thread title and post.
    Jim

  4. #19

    Feb 2007
    SOUTH WEYMOUTH MA.
    PRISM11 MXT IDX PRO TESORO COMPARDRE T2 se
    414
    246 times
    wet dirt
    i posted on this thread about my whites machines but i must admit that i also have a equinox 600 strickly for wet sand but i feel it is cheaply built and hate the idea of rechargeable batteries wih me luck jim
    if it wasn't for flashbacks. i would have no memory at all

  5. #20
    us
    TunaTonker

    Nov 2016
    Whites, Garrett, Minelab
    400
    715 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    How did this thread turn into a domestic vs foreign thread when the question presented wasn't about "buying American", it was about calling on some US manufacturers to up their game. Just because they're American companies doesn't mean, we the consumer, should expect 20, even 30 year old technology. There is nothing more patriotic then American competition and innovation, but sadly, some of these American companies are taking us, the consumer, for granted. Yes, I agree, they need to up their game or they will go the way of the Studebaker...
    Last edited by GoDeep; May 12, 2020 at 09:24 PM.
    Rad1sh and chub like this.

  6. #21
    Charter Member
    us
    Jul 2012
    Blackfoot, Idaho
    White's GM2, GM3, DFX, Coinmaster, TDI-SL, GM24K, Falcon MD20, old Garrett Masterhunter BFO 'Way Too Cool' dual 18 Watt UV light
    2,765
    3539 times
    Prospecting
    To say Whites isn't involved in new tech is nothing but a lie. They have the new GM24K, and just this year a waterproof version. Both have the most advanced ground tracking system in the industry. The only way they'll go under is if people don't support them. Instead buying stuff made in Turkey...a very iffy NATO partner, run by a tyrant. Good luck with the consequences of that choice. I know nothing of Garrett, but understand their new Apex is due out this month. Looks to me like the bashing is more about money than features, or maybe rationalizing a choice to buy foreign.
    Jim
    cactusman likes this.

  7. #22
    us
    TunaTonker

    Nov 2016
    Whites, Garrett, Minelab
    400
    715 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Quote Originally Posted by Jim in Idaho View Post
    Looks to me like the bashing is more about money than features, or maybe rationalizing a choice to buy foreign.
    Jim
    "Bashing"? I re-read all the comments just to make sure, but I don't see any bashing at all. What I do see though, is passionate treasure hunters wanting to see more features out of their beloved American manufactures.
    Toecutter likes this.

  8. #23

    Mar 2020
    Omaha
    White DFX, Fisher F4, White V3i
    49
    128 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    just bought a White V3i about 2 weeks ago...it kicks ass. Depth, accuracy, color screen and Analyze...cant be beat

  9. #24
    us
    Nov 2003
    Orange Co. NY
    White's xlt,Tesoro Silver umax, and Compadre.
    371
    69 times
    Whites doesn't play with hype. They just make well made detectors that perform. The grass is greener on the other side of the fence is more placebo effect than reality.
    Diggitdaddy likes this.
    You know it's a good day when you not only have surface finds of Pulltabs, but pull two out of the same hole.

  10. #25

    Apr 2017
    Fisher F75, Minelab Soveriegn XS 2 Nokta pinpointer
    1,297
    1867 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    I think the OP was about the overall package. There's no hype - the Whites coinmaster on the whites site is $249. Simplex is $250. Simplex is waterproof. Simplex is updatable, has backlight etc. etc. The fact that it can be updated keeps it current / contemporary.
    So with no bias, the consumer will most likely choose the simplex over the coin master on the over all package. Some people here have waxed lyrical about Nokta/Makro customer service and turn around time.
    I don't think its about bashing - its about people WANTING to support their favourite US made brand but are finding it frustrating with the high prices, stale range, and lack of development...
    If the Cygnus is anything like its said to be it will surely have huge support.

    On a side note, I looked at buying a miller welder some time ago...all the components inside were chinese...so it was really just "assembled" in the USA

    Chub
    Rad1sh likes this.

  11. #26

    Apr 2017
    Fisher F75, Minelab Soveriegn XS 2 Nokta pinpointer
    1,297
    1867 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Quote Originally Posted by solx nys View Post
    Whites doesn't play with hype. They just make well made detectors that perform. The grass is greener on the other side of the fence is more placebo effect than reality.
    I appreciate your sentiment but waterproof vs non waterproof isnt really placebo...the simplex for example really is waterproof. Again no bias, and its not really about Whites specifically.



    Chub
    Rad1sh likes this.

  12. #27

    Nov 2015
    71
    110 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Quote Originally Posted by Jim in Idaho View Post
    I guess we can all buy the cheaper foreign-made machines, and watch another industry go down the toilet. Then wonder why there's no decent jobs for the current college grads. What the heck...we might save a couple hundred bucks.
    Jim
    My apologies, for going off topic....

    Yeah, I used to feel the same way.
    12 yrs as a EMN-SS, Electricians Mate-Sub.
    Got out and went into Manufacturing.

    Along the way, I got Out-Sourced, to the Dominican Republic.
    5 yrs, running a fabrication plant, in the American Free Trade Zone.
    During those 5 years, my Passport was stamped for a total of 21-days stateside.

    A big plus for me was working for an American Company, my U.S Pay was exempt from State & Federal Taxes.
    My pay was Direct Deposit from the NY Company into Citi-Bank.
    Still paid Social Security, and all the other stuff.
    Filed Taxes every year, with Zero for State & Federal on the W2's

    Traveling to work, I would pass Allen Bradley, Avon, Merk, BMS, and all the others in the Trade Zone.
    • Our facility had a total of 1800 employees, ran only 1 Shift.
    • Had our own Electric Generation Plant.
    • Fed the employee's free breakfast & lunch everyday.
    • Had our own fleet of buses that would transport them, to & from the Barrios.


    Yea, a real bitter cup of coffee that opened my eye's.
    Just like Bridgeport Machines, Inc. from 1938 to 2004...rip.

    Being a Bubblehead, I was aboard the Archerfish SSN 678 for the ICEX 86.
    Broke through the ice at the North Pole.

    Thought I had seen it all, been lower than whale sh*t, and to the Top of The World!

    Was not ready for what I learned about Manufacturing in a American Free Trade Zone!

    Respectfully, tim
    Last edited by timex; May 13, 2020 at 12:03 PM.

  13. #28
    Charter Member
    us
    Only boaring people get board

    Nov 2018
    The Thumb
    NOX899 ATpro
    1,772
    4693 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Honorable Mentions (1)
    I went from the ATpro to the Nox800... wait fot it...... BECAUSE IT IS BETTER!!....not cheaper..
    Rad1sh and chub like this.
    I'll sleep when I'm dead

  14. #29
    Charter Member
    us
    Oct 2014
    Massachusetts
    Garrett: AT Pro, AT Gold & Infinium; Minelab: Explorer SE, II & X-terra 705; Simplex; Tesoro: Tejon & Outlaw; White's: V3i & DFX
    29,615
    32791 times
    Relic Hunting
    Banner Finds (2)
    Bridgeport made great Milling machines that last "forever".
    Zip Zip likes this.

  15. #30
    Charter Member
    us
    Jul 2012
    Blackfoot, Idaho
    White's GM2, GM3, DFX, Coinmaster, TDI-SL, GM24K, Falcon MD20, old Garrett Masterhunter BFO 'Way Too Cool' dual 18 Watt UV light
    2,765
    3539 times
    Prospecting
    Quote Originally Posted by Toecutter View Post
    I went from the ATpro to the Nox800... wait fot it...... BECAUSE IT IS BETTER!!....not cheaper..
    I see nothing wrong with that. No other manufacturer, anywhere, makes a similar machine. Several make individual machines that cover the same purpose, but the 'Nox is the only one that combines them in one machine.
    Jim
    Rad1sh and Toecutter like this.

 

 
Page 2 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast

Home | Forum | Active Topics | What's New

Sponsored Links

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 125
    Last Post: Apr 17, 2019, 02:25 PM
  2. Finally started work on the quad jet....step by step with pics.
    By mike(swWash) in forum Dredging & Hi Banking
    Replies: 35
    Last Post: Apr 08, 2015, 06:27 AM
  3. Replies: 27
    Last Post: Mar 28, 2011, 08:03 PM
  4. Whats a logical step up from the Garrett 250?
    By bigcreekdad in forum Metal Detecting
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: Jun 17, 2010, 06:09 PM
  5. Ariel View Mapping How I Do It Step By Step
    By piggman1 in forum General Discussion
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: Sep 11, 2007, 10:11 AM
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v4.3.0