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    Banning/restricting guns from law abiding citizens will never stop gun violence. It would be like taking everyone's drivers license away to stop drunk driving. Decay of morals and our society causes crime, not guns. We need guns to protect ourselves from these scumbags. I do believe that if the founding fathers had the types of weapons that we have today we would still have our 2nd. Amendment.
    It would seem we are now up a famous tributary without any means of locomotion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singlestack Wonder View Post
    Yet more new firearms laws do NOTHING in regards to criminals. They only strip the rights of law abiding Americans. Criminals do not obtain weapons legally and if they do, it is the fault of the disjointed criminal background check system. Unfortunately each state manages its own with the federal government having their own version. The databases typically do not match. Due to this bloated bureaucracy created by politicians, criminals are able to sneak under the radar.

    Most of the firearm related laws on the books are not enforced anyway as the politicians only pass them to garner attention in their quest for a socialist society.

    (removed for politics)

    Removing Constitutionally guaranteed Rights from law abiding citizens does nothing to prevent crime. It just green lights criminals to commit crimes with no fear.

    If one wants to live in a country where their every move is monitored and firearms ownership is illegal, I highly suggest moving to a utopian society such as communist china, russia, or any one of many dictator led societies.

    The Founding Fathers were brilliant men in creating a timeless document such as the Constitution. They had experienced a totalitarian monarchy and knew what was required to free themselves.

    The 2nd Amendment is not about duck hunting. It is about defending one's person and family as well as freedom should the need arise.

    [PATRIOT RANT MODE OFF]

    Not suggesting constitutional rights be removed in may that only flintlocks would be legal. (removed for politics)
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    This is like arguing about how wet is water....Iím done here
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    End the political comments or lose ability to post for awhile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Treasure_Hunter View Post
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    that's right up there with. Guns don't kill people. Whet socks kill people.

    I had a lot of fun and I hope everyone ales did as well. If anyone got twisted, lighten up. Its all BS anyway. Have a great weekend.
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    And then the left would ban "powder". Leave it alone. We have gotten to where we are by the Declaration and the Constitution. I don't care if it's and old piece of paper written by a bunch of old white men. It's the best 2 documents ever contrived/written in the History of The World.
    Of course you can make your own stash of black powder & caps.
    Ban automobiles; they kill about 45,000 humans a year, not counting wild life, etc. OH I forgot ; automobiles are driven by humans.
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    These 5 words all you need to know on the topic ... period !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Escape View Post
    User stupidity has nothing to do with it. If only flintlocks were legal I think there would be less shootings of all kinds. Daniel Boone never had a problem with them. Often good ideas are looked upon with skepticism at first.. Hunting would be more of a challenge for one thing and you would have no problem making you own ammo.
    ...and we should also get rid of the inter-net and smart phones and people would need to write letters again which would really slow down all the crap people like to put out there in order to make themselves think they are somehow smarter then everyone else, ehh Escape?....I could go on and on....but why bother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyzak View Post
    Utah is working on getting rid of the permit so you can conceal carry without one.
    I think it was just today that Utah has now done so. Yep, just now looked, in the EPOC TIMES that 21 & older may now carry a concealed firearm in a public area without a permit. As of Dec. 2020, there had been 718,218 concealed carry permits. I'm talking Utah here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Escape View Post
    that's right up there with. Guns don't kill people. Whet socks kill people.

    I had a lot of fun and I hope everyone ales did as well. If anyone got twisted, lighten up. Its all BS anyway. Have a great weekend.
    Your right they are the same, guns don't kill people, people do, wet socks do kill people, put on a pair of wet socks then go outside in dead of winter in Montana, Wyoming, Idaho, North Dakota, Minnesota, Wisconsin Michigan and see what happens.
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    Right now, where I live, I use a firearm for non-hunting purpose almost weekly. We raise chickens, used to raise sheep, and EVERYTHING eats chickens and lambs. I don't like posions because I can't control who may eat it or eat what had eaten it. Leg traps - no - had a HORRIBLE event with an elderly neighbor's cat 40 years ago and do not want to repeat that (cat survived with just some nasty skin loss and I paid a week's wages to a vet).

    When there's a ruckus in the hen house I head out armed. Coyotes, raccoons, weasels, fishers, opossums & skunks (egg thieves but mostly innocuous unless there are chicks about) and plain 'ol rats. Have four live traps . . . but when it is a varmint it still needs a five second head start and a solution when let out of the trap.

    And I conceal carry a 9mm around otherwise (home & town) because when seconds count the police are 20 minutes away.
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    I always find it amusing when people exercise their 1st Amendment right to explain why the guardian of the 1st Amendment (2A) should be abolished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treasure_Hunter View Post
    So 1st amendment would only apply to newspapers printed by hand on hand presses, there was no TV, radio, internet, CD, DVD so they are not protected by 1st amendment. Freedom from unlawful searches wouldn't apply since they did not exist.
    Beat me to it.
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    Here's a hard truth to think on:

    While it is true that some people should not be allowed to have guns; it is even more true that some people should not be allowed to have children.

    Guns are inanimate and have no good or evil qualities. They are just useful tools. But all murders EVER are committed by someone's child. Was that because an unfit parent did not instill a sense or moral duty or at least minimal social norms in the child?

    So if you want to control crime you have to control the people. Not the items they have available.

    Breeding licenses? Manditory parenting education and screwer's permits? Eliminate the child tax credit and instead increase taxes for every child? I don't know a solution but the problem is obvious.
    Last edited by Charlie P. (NY); Feb 19, 2021 at 10:17 PM.
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